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djlavey: An editorial by Tamim Ansary

DJLavey (djlavey) wrote,
@ 2001-09-14 13:58:00
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An editorial by Tamim Ansary
PLEASE NOTE: This was originally sent to my via email, which was cut and paste to the format below.

I am not the author of this piece. Merely the distributor :)
Someone was kind enough to track down a 3rd party posting, and should you decide to link to this article (which I STRONGLY feel you should) please do so at

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/14/afghanistan/index.html

My thanks, but please post no more comments onto my LiveJournal account! I am warmed by all the positive energy as a result this post, but somewhat overwhelmed!

My thanks
DJLavey

********Note which I DID NOT WRITE begins here**************

Written by an Afghani in the U.S.

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ron Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the belly to do what must be done." And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

I speak as one who deeply hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. My hatred comes from first hand experience. There is no doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters. But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden,think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the Jews in the concentration camps."
It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this
atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country.

Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food. There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these
widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban.

We come now to the question of "bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone Age". Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at
least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide.

Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping bombs would not really be a strike against the criminals who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time.

So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks.
Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting
with a world war between Islam and the West.

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably
wrong, in the end the West would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for that?
Unfortunately, Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

In Peace,

Tamim Ansary

*********Note that I DID NOT WRITE ends here***************


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violate
2001-09-14 11:29 am UTC (link)
Thank you for posting that...
I only hope that more people will realize the truth of it.. unfortunately I doubt they will.. and it will have a much sadder outcome than can be imagined :(

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firegrrl
2001-09-14 11:41 am UTC (link)
god, i hope that your message is listened to.

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emu72
2001-09-14 12:05 pm UTC (link)
Everyone (me included) is linking to this.

Everyone should read it.

Thank you.

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mtsmth
2001-09-14 12:27 pm UTC (link)
i don't just want to link to this and send it to my friends and family

what i want to do is put it in my college weekly newspaper

thanks

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Look a fellow Crono Icon user!
samuraicrono
2001-09-15 02:06 pm UTC (link)
Hehe You use Crono's bust too!!! Cool.
Later,
Estel Mithelthil Aeflwin

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swirlylove
2001-09-14 12:31 pm UTC (link)
i will put a link in my journal too.
and also thank you.
i think that is the most rational thing i have heard in the past few days.

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pointedview
2001-09-14 12:39 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for taking the time to clarify the situation for many people who are unaware. I had an Afghani acquaintance back in college, who was very good about educating us, but many in the US have not been exposed or exposed themselves to the reality of the circumstances.

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outstanding
t_h_mitchell
2001-09-14 12:54 pm UTC (link)
that was the greatest commentary i've heard thus far, and i've been watching different tv newstations non stop for about 3 days.

thank you for sharing

MITCHELL

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Wow..
stonebutterfly
2001-09-14 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for this post.. this is one of the things I've been trying to say.. though not as well or as eloquently. Bombing the crap out of a country that's already suffering is NOT going to solve the problem. It's like killing an ant with a bulldozer. You may destroy everything in the lawn and still miss the ant.

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emu72
2001-09-14 01:08 pm UTC (link)
I'm all for your plan.

Taking Afganistan away from the likes of Bin Ladan is the best possible thing we could do.

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(no subject) - m_a_l_i_c_e, 2001-09-14 02:50 pm UTC (Expand)
some points... - maholic, 2001-09-14 08:14 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: some points... - silliegrl, 2001-09-15 06:33 am UTC (Expand)
Re: some points... - cyberstick7, 2001-09-15 08:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: some points... - morgaine, 2001-09-15 10:00 am UTC (Expand)

227
2001-09-14 01:01 pm UTC (link)
Yep, that makes a great deal of sense.
I hope Bush Junior ends up reading that article somehow.

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mega
2001-09-16 07:23 am UTC (link)
yeah...someone should just email it to him

bush@gov?

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redpretzel
2001-09-14 01:03 pm UTC (link)
Fantastic commentary...AND the first plauseable idea for a tactical response I have yet to hear suggested!

The media shows 10 people celibrating outside a public market and everyone assumes ALL the people in Afghanistan are the same.

Carpet bombing Kabul is like trying to kill all the cockroaches in an infested house by burning it to the ground.

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emu72
2001-09-14 01:13 pm UTC (link)
Besides which, I'm pretty sure the people they showed celebrating were Palestinian.

Not to say that all Palestinian (I can't spell that) were celebrating either.

But it just goes to show how convuluted things can get.

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(no subject) - redpretzel, 2001-09-14 01:26 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - meshach, 2001-09-14 04:33 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - cyberstick7, 2001-09-15 08:46 am UTC (Expand)
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Re: actually - bertho, 2001-09-19 12:03 am UTC (Expand)

razorw
2001-09-14 01:07 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for sharing an insight that the media chooses not to show. It is a light of reason in this dark time. Thanks --Ray

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juri
2001-09-14 01:17 pm UTC (link)
God bless you for that. That statement shows all the sentiments that I feel toward all of this stuff. The Afghani people had nothing to do with this atrocity themselves and I believe what you wrote took such courage and love to write, and God bless you for that.

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notmyworld
2001-09-14 01:21 pm UTC (link)
Thank you very much. I've linked this in my journal.

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migoto
2001-09-14 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Would you mind if I printed this out and posted it around my campus?

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