Laszlo Q. V. St-J. Xalieri ([info]vidicon) wrote,
@ 2001-03-19 22:07:00
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Current mood:fractured
Current music:Tom Tom Club - 10. Superdreaming

Tour of a migraine -- $.50 version
I spent Sunday in an altered state of consciousness that if it weren't for the steel spike through my head many people would have paid good money to have experienced. Maybe even have paid good money to experience. But as this is a public forum, "I wouldn't know about such things, nope nope nope," is the official story.

There seems to be a point where, after pain becomes merely debilitating, you come out the other side. Out some other side.

I dreamed. I would say "hallucinated", but my eyes were closed most of the time and I wasn't exactly conscious. Hard to draw that line.

At one point I saw a landscape composed of fractally geometric spiky features, neon-bright, ice-blue and ice-translucent. This place had nothing to do with me. I didn't interact with it. But I was there for an incalculable while. The texture and scope (how much field of vision it took up) and color scheme pulsed and modulated, as did the structures I watched. For the most part I felt like I was above it, sometimes felt like I was looking at it through a microscope -- or a telescope. Not a lot of this stuff stuck in my head. I can't describe the soundtrack. Kaleidoscopic is a good word. So is synaesthesia. Unfortunately, hours and hours of adjectives would be a good deal more boring for you than the actual experience was for me.

In a more dream-like sequence, I remember a scene at a place that was important to me as a child -- the church I attended until I was seventeen. Nothing religious was taking place, though, and I didn't really place it as the church parking lot until just now. It was off-scale. Too large. Some carnival was in full swing and the place (and surrounding city) was being wrecked by huge (sky-scraper-sized) vaguely anthropomorphic forms. Many had tentacles for limbs. I remember being more "put out" than really afraid. It agitated me into a near-panic when one swatted too close for comfort, but it bugged me more that everyone else was definitely panicking and no one would help me get to the toy store. This theme continued through several scenes. Until I got a ride to the next scene. I think I drove the old red convertible myself with the faceless owner in the back seat, at least at first....

After that there was some driving through a city-scape on raised highways that seemed to be badly drawn. We were going in circles and I felt like I could steer our car to better-drawn roads if I could call the directions, but I was mostly ignored -- until I pretended not to be rattled entirely when we repeatedly nearly fell through ripped-up sections of pavement -- and then the person at the wheel agreed to follow my directions. I eventually got us off the road entirely by deliberately taking a nasty-looking gap in the highway onto quickly-sketched packed clay and we drove to some field at the back of some beach-front resort....

At one point I was in the toy section of a beach/pool-oriented tourist-trap slightly too large to be considered a convenience store. I was building a weapon to fight the ectoplasmic monstrosities. I remember I had collected some modeling clay and some bubble-blowing liquid soap and some large-ish plastic tubular material (textured with rings of alternately large and small diameters, like a bendy-straw on serious steroids and "bendy" for the whole yellow length) associated with the bubble-gunk. I think I found some magnetic marbles and was sending someone else out for some insulated wire and some old wire coat-hangers for structure. I remember I was vaguely satisfied that I had an idea that would work....

I remember having little patience with queries like, "What the fuck are you up to?" and "What will that do?" and "Are you sure this will work?"

I remember fighting some smaller monster or other in a clearing in the woods, standing on the trunk of the convertible, slinging the doctored tube to launch some soapy, clay-wrapped magnetic marble-thingy through the wire-wrapped tube, the wires on the tube connected to an old car-battery that wouldn't stay connected on a vigorous swing, not to mention that the tube was too soapy to hold onto properly until I found the work gloves in the trunk. But in the end it worked -- wherever a missile hit, an enormous chunk of the creature was messily disrupted, usually taking off a limb. I was a poor shot too, as I recall.

There was more, unrelated to this apparently threaded sequence -- and I can't really guarantee that this was the sequence in which I dreamed the scenes I described.

There was plenty more. I took a shower at one point, and read some of The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, loaned to me by orpheusrabbit (I'm into chapter 20 of book 3), but the pain surged again and put me back down. I ate a few crackers and peanut butter and drank water before I hit the futon again. After sleeping until noon on Sunday, I was back horizontal in bed (truth to tell, I never left it except to shower) by 3:00 PM.

At some point my roommate and her boyfriend showed up to commit some olfactory felony in the kitchen (all of my senses get heightened during a migraine -- and I wasn't in good enough condition to drag myself downstairs to complain -- and I sure as hell wasn't going to shout). By the time I was smelling it, I was pretty much screwed. I just rode it out. When they left, they took whatever it was with them -- I could find no sign of it in the kitchen this morning. I know they had come and gone, though. They left other signs. But the smell put me in my own little hell for a while. I finally managed to reengineer the airflow in my room to overpressure it so no air could come in from the hallway or bathroom. Or I guess that was why the AC window unit was on fan-only and vented the way it was. I still have no idea where the floor-fan came from. It doesn't look familiar at all, either from my stuff or from my roommates.... The air-directing geometry was all mine, though. And the fan was pretty old-looking -- second-hand dusty and not exactly current era.

I guess I just pulled the fan out of my pocket. I'm sure there's a retroactive explanation waiting somewhere. I stuck the fan in the linen closet in the bathroom. (Have I seen it in there before? It's starting to feel familiar already...) If I remember, I'll ask the roommate about it. I certainly don't remember getting up to find a fan. And I do remember when my roommate and her boyfriend left again. No living person came into my room....

There was tons more dreaming -- the kind of vivid, disjointed stuff I usually don't get unless I have a fever. Some of it was weirdly sensual -- a kind of all-over bath in glassy icy (but not uncomfortable) pellets, colored in flame-oranges and flame-yellows, flowing quickly over my naked body. I remember the sensation of other presences. I remember partially waking up, but upon determining that the sense of other was fading, consciously re-immersing myself in dream. The presences occurred one or two at a time -- one in contact and one distant when there were two -- and I believe that if I were forced to, I could put names with the presences -- but at this point I would prefer not to.

I gave a message to one of them that I would prefer get returned to me before I make any definitive statements about the presences.

I talked at length with all of the presences, a running narration of something or other (regarding more stuff I don't care to discuss yet) with one or two of them, pleasantries with others, and a message (password?) for one I apparently didn't expect to meet. All of this was at the same time as some of the more positive kaleidoscopic experiences towards the end of the migrainous sequences and before the more ignorable stuff in the wee hours of this morning.

I was wrung out this morning. I'm still in a haze -- as if the storm that generated the migraine has merely wandered off into another part of my head and is still stirring up dust and generating an indescribably subjective analogy to that wet-dust-and-ozone smell of a recently passed -- or immanent -- outbreak. I say indescribable, but if you combine the terms "jittery" and "fuzzy" and "staticky" with "tornado nearby -- but where you can't see it -- maybe already passed but could come back", you start getting close.

I guess it's time to visit my doctor again. I'm all out of the really good stuff I used to keep on hand to fend off the bad ones when I felt them coming on. And they are starting to get more frequent again. It's a sign of stress. Or something.

The time sequences for this entry are all cracked up and shuffled. I guess that's appropriate. Either that or I don't feel like fixing it.

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solution
nardiaone
2001-03-19 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Naproxen
500 - 725 mg po

Ibuprofen
600 - 800 mg po

ASA
900 - 1000 mg. po

Ketorolac
30 - 60 mg IM

,Chlorpromazine (Largactil)
Saline bolus with 0.1 mg/kg or 12.5 mg IV q15-20 minutes to a max of 3 times

Metoclopramide (Maxeran)
10 mg IV

Prochlorperazine (Stemetil)
5-10 mg IV or 25 mg suppositories

Haloperidol (Haldol)
5 mg IV repeated X1 prn

MY PERSONAL FAVORITE

Meperidine (Demerol)
1-1.5 mg/kg IM q2h prn


0.25 mg/kg IV q10 min prn

Morphine
0.1 mg/kg IM q4h prn


0.025 - 0.05 mg/kg IV q 10 min prn

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Re: solution
[info]vidicon
2001-03-19 09:21 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Most of those are elephant-guns to the pissant nine-millimeter solutions I usually get handed.

Naproxen sounds familiar (Alieve?), but Duradrin is usually the best stuff I've been given for any extended periods. I just remember the caution insert: "Warning: May cause a false sense of well-being. Make sure you know how you react to this drug before you try to operate a vehicle or other machinery." I was highly amused. I was given sterner stuff by injection when I was dragged off by a bunch of well-meaning friends to an off-hours clinic, but I have no clue what they shot me up with. It started with an "a". Maybe.

I'm trying to work my way up to the full-fledged opiates. Apparently.

Anyway, I'm much better now.

How are you feeling?

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Re: solution
[info]orpheusrabbit
2001-03-20 08:16 am UTC (link)
as i've discovered recently--specifically, sunday night at mark's house--you can order almost (or maybe even) all these drugs online, without a prescription. depending on what shady online pharmacy you use, however, you might have to pay a "consultation fee" of up to $100, though this is usually one-time from what i've seen.
also available: vicodin, xanax, paxil, viagra...the list is overwhelming to me.
too bad it's still so tricky to score ketaset from the online mexican pharmacies....

-s
(now THAT would really put you out of your misery, not to mention your body...though i think we already discussed this in MY journal...)

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Re: solution
[info]vidicon
2001-03-20 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Just because you can order it online doesn't make it illegal to own or sell once it gets to you -- it's just that they can't get busted for selling it to you. Unless you send in some WASD raiders to burn their drug-producing fields...

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hmmmmmm.
[info]orpheusrabbit
2001-03-20 08:25 am UTC (link)
maybe we're just victims of the same memetic engineering?...i can't say for certain, but it strikes me as plain odd that we'd both be experiencing such gross separations from standard reality with a minimum of substance-intake. (i'll readily admit that i popped half a xanax on saturday and sunday evenings, but i don't credit that much for the vivid sur/realism of my dreams, especially considering they still seem to be following some strange sort of sequence.)
sunday night...hm, that was the "castle" dream for me, i believe. now that you've shared what you were experiencing in the "other" realms though, i can't honestly assess whether you made any appearance in my dream or not; if i tried to think hard about it i'd be far too wary of artificial memory creation (retroactive continuity, as it were).
it would not, however, strike me as the least bit surprising if we were sharing some degree of these unrealities. i can say pretty surely though that, if you gave me (or tried to give me) a message during sunday's ventures, i either didn't get it, didn't realize what it was, or didn't commit it to memory. after all, i haven't been fully alert to the possibilities of what's going on upstairs until quite recently...

-s

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My fracture
[info]vidicon
2001-03-20 06:09 pm UTC (link)
My fracture was a neurochemical brainstorm, pure and simple. Extended stresses and near-seizure-level reactions. Whether or not I've been playing with the new kittens infesting my sofa (and how I feel about the sofa infestation itself) lately has more to do with this particular type of effect more than this morning's multivitamin.

The fractured landscape from my more normal dream sequences is more or less typical. I take shortcuts through poorly defined dream-territory all the time. I just thought I would put down an example for the curious -- and to benchmark this should things get weirder. I like the marble launcher, though. I wonder if the insulated marbles spun through a magnetic field would build up the static charge I think they might... I think the soap was to disrupt the surface tension of the ectoplasmic liquid so that the charge would penetrate....

I'll know the password when I hear it. If. That's when the really weird stuff will start to happen....

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[info]k_something
2005-08-12 01:54 pm UTC (link)
Dear Laszlo Q. V. St-J. Xalieri , I would like to ask you for your permission to reproduce your weird migraine dream report (assuming it was ONLY migraine?) on a website devoted to the subject of migraine and dreaming, http://www.migraine-aura.org/EN/Disturbances_of_dreaming.html - I would be grateful for a feedback, kp

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[info]vidicon
2005-08-12 03:13 pm UTC (link)
I give you full permission to reproduce this post, in part or in full, for the site you have listed. Also, I assure you that this was just a migraine—unmedicated in any way. Just attribute it to the name above, and if you provide html links, link back to this post (but that's only if you fell like it--not a requirement).

Thanks for the link to the site, by the way. I shall enjoy looking it over.

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[info]vidicon
2005-08-12 05:21 pm UTC (link)
To my mind, the main distinction between dream and hallucination is whether the experiencer participates. Whether any real world background element bleed through is also a factor. The parts where I describe myself doing things were the most dreamlike parts. Anytime when I became aware of being in my room, I largely considered myself to be awake—even though I guess it is always possible that I was only dreming that I was awake.

I don't really recall much in the way of odd body sensations other tha feelings of heaviness and weightlessness at different times. But this was only while dreaming. For the awake periods, I was dragging myself around the house, but those were more or less normal experiences.

I have "felt presences" before, definitely, as part of migraine aura experiences. I've never been worried that those presences could have been real, because I'm aware of the aura phenomenon and how exotic and random it can be. For instance, I spent two whole days with only a very, very minor migraine during which, for the whole time, I hallucinated the odor of a really nice clam chowder. I knew it was associated with the migraine, so I didn't really give it any thought other than to enjoy the smell and regret the lack of actual clam chowder.

Similarly, the I find the occasional feeling of presence ignorable. In this severe case though, there were multiple presences, and I could sense various emotions and attitudes comingfrom them, and they took on identities that had meaning for me. I still wasn't worried too much that these presences were real in any way, other than that I knew they were being generated out of stuff I had in my head. These personalities contained pieces or fragments of people I knew and had forgotten, or, in at least one case, a person of a sort I expected to one day meet. If I had been more of a religious person, I expect I would speak about these presences in terms of angels or demons or departed souls. This part of te episode was intensely emotional and somewhat uncomfortable, but not completely so.

My migraines in general are very mild. Which is to say, in comparison with those people who lose days or even weeks to their own agony, my migraines usually only last for a couple of hours, maybe half a day, but will go away if I can spend some time (a half hour or an hour) meditating in a dark room. So depictions like the above are extremely rare.

Other than the clam chowder episode, the only other aura situation worth mentioning is one that arrived when I was driving that seemed like a very bright light in my left field of vision that eventually turned into swirling kaleidoscopic patterns with narrow lines of pinks and greens and blues. I was reminded of watching computer-generated cellular automata from my college days. And having read a couple of discussions of what those models model, it only seems fitting.

In any case, I got to my destination as soon as I could and prepared for the worst—and it never came. I got the aura with no attendant migraine.

And other than the presences phenomenon, I don't recall any of the elements of this dream recurring.

More questions are welcome, if you have any...

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[info]vidicon
2005-08-12 08:22 pm UTC (link)
As I recall, some of the emotional tone, particularly what I was feeling during the "presences" part of the experience I detailed, did carry over into the next couple of days. I felt like I had been through some kind of evaluation or review, like an oral examination, and had barely passed. I felt tense and drained at the same time, like I was still waiting for my scores.

I think I forgot to break paragraphs above. The other presences episodes and the clam chowder hallucination were separate episodes. Sorry for the confusion.

In one of the principal episodes of a presence being felt while I was awake, I remember feeling that there was someone, like a person or something with a person's intelligence or awareness, but larger. Like the size of a cow standing up, just outside of my peripheral vision, but always to my left, just beyond the reach of my arm. When I turned to look, the sensation moved with my head, like maybe the presence was attached to my head by an intangible pole. Sometimes it also felt "light" or "heavy", which seems a bit difficult to explain. It was like the presence would push or pull me sometimes. And that was when I decided it was time to lie down before I fell over. I never saw or heard (or smelled) the presence, but I felt that if I could see it, it would be dark and indistinct.

The "fracture" mentioned above relates to this migraine episode. But I do have dreams where what I thought was a landscape in the distance seems to be instead a painting or drawing that can rip and tear and give way to a different setting entirely. Those dreams I don't usually associate with migraines, but maybe I haven't been paying close attention. I guess that element of changeable landscape counts as a recurring factor. Sometimes I seem to have some coonscious control over my dreams (as in lucid dreaming), and that is someteimes how I change a dream that is disturbing me into a more pleasant dream. This is not common, though. Maybe I have a dream like this once or twice per year.

Feel free to use this picture:
...or, in fact, any of the others if you find them more fitting.

I am happy to be able to provide you with my experiences and answers to your questions. Migraines are fascinating phenomena. Well. Except for the agony part.

Feel free to keep asking questions....

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[info]vidicon
2005-08-13 02:25 pm UTC (link)
The presence, in the above episode, did not arrive until the headache had already started. I don't have a good grasp of the amount of time that passed while the sensation of presence persisted--could have been just a few minutes or maybe as long as half an hour. This time, the sensation of presence went away as the migraine got worse.

Other presences I have felt have been the same as the above, mostly. I can only recall maybe three or four times I sensed a presence aside from the sensation of multiple presences in the dream sequence above. The other occurrences of the sensations were decidedly less strong. They tended also to not have the sensations of heaviness associated with them, and sometimes the presences seemed like they would be light instead of dark. Maybe two of the fainter sensations were of "light" presences, and one of those times the presences drifted from light to dark and back to light again, maybe several times. That was very long ago, and I don't remember too many details from that episode.

Not long after I had the migraine/dream disturbance described above, I read an article that had a profound impact on how I thought of these presences. An excerpt is quoted below. Perhaps you can find the whole article in a library?

From New Scientist magazine, 21 Apr 2001, "In search of God"

For several years, Persinger has been using a technique called transcranial magnetic stimulation to induce all sorts of surreal experiences in ordinary people (New Scientist, 19 November 1994, p 29). Through trial and error and a bit of educated guesswork, he's found that a weak magnetic field—1 microtesla, which is roughly that generated by a computer monitor—rotating anticlockwise in a complex pattern about the temporal lobes will cause four out of five people to feel a spectral presence in the room with them.


Your edits and stitching together of the answers I've given you are quite satisfactory. I'm usually not that coherent. :)

When you are done, feel free to delete any comments here you find to be extraneous or confusing, and I'll clean up any replies of mine that get stranded. Or, if you prefer, I can just screen the totality of our conversations here and you can leave another comment with the link to your finished work. Whatever you would prefer. I tend to prefer the latter, so that web searches will go more quickly to your article, where the attention is more deserved....

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[info]k_something
2005-08-13 03:09 pm UTC (link)
I have already deleted some of my entries with questions, which are no longer necessary, after your answers are documented here. Your suggestion is a good one, we leave your previous entries here until the webpage at www.migraine-aura.org will be on-line (may take a bit of time), and thereafter I post a comment on your site guiding zto our discussions as will be documented on the migraine aura webpage.

For the three or four times you sensed a presence, can you make a statement about the association with headaches in these cases (were they always linked with headaches, if yes, in which temporal relationship - before - during - after? can you give an approximate range of duration of these other 3-4 times ?)

Did the feeling that the presences seemed like they would be light or dark actually involve a visual sensation, did you see something light or dark, or just sense its presence?

Molly Barr has illustrated the feeling of a presence during a dream followed by migraines after awakening in her prize-winning painting "Beastly Migraine" which won a prize in the Migraine Masterpieces competition, you find the image and the image plus a description on her website.

As regards Persinger ... There is an interesting link here: In her essay "Mystical Experience and the Language of Paradox - A Neuropsychological Correlation" (2002), theologist, neuropsychiatrist and migraine sufferer Judit Gellérd took up the task of a "first-person report" of her mystical experiences. "As a neuropsychiatrist and also a sufferer from severe migraine headaches for three decades, I self-observed the epiphenomena (confirmed by EEG) of my migraines and migraine equivalents... I think that my discrete temporal anomaly is correlated with my predisposition for mystical experiences... Having two, radically different interpretative approaches of my experiences, the cognitive scientific and the theological, my dilemma arises: Do I need to choose between them in order to appreciate properly their effect upon me, namely, the numinous awakening to life's meaning? Which is the source of my mystical experiences -- God or my brain chemicals?" [ http://w3.enternet.hu/sandor64/cffr/papers/essay.htm ]

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[info]vidicon
2005-08-13 04:42 pm UTC (link)
I knew I forgot to answer something. The other times I felt the presences, it was always just at the onset of a migraine, maybe a few minutes before or right when the pain started to get bad. By the time the pain reached the maximum level, a was no loger aware of any presence. I don't recall very completely, but I don't believe any episode with presences lasted longer than half or three quarters of an hour.

I find it difficult to explain the light or dark qualities I associated with the presences. They were never in my field of vision. If you imagine a lamp behind your shoulder, you can imagine that it would brighten the ambience of the room you are in, more so on the side of the room the lamp is on. There really isn't a physical analogy for emanating darkness into a room, but if it were to be possible for an object to suck the light from a room, one would be in the right ballpark.... In any case, I don't really recall any brightening or darkening of things in my field of vision, but perhaps just a feeling perhaps of a light shining on me from behind and to the left or a shadow falling on me from behind and to the left. It's hard to say. It was subtle.

As for clinical data, I don't mind stating some of that publicly for any duration convenient to you. I was born in 1967. I remember having headaches throughout my childhood, but I don't recall anything of migraine quality until after puberty. I my have been fourteen years old, maybe fifteen.

I was also struck by lightning when I was fourteen—and again when I was fifteen!—and I know that electrocution can have all sorts of unusual deleterious effects. However, I have never had an EEG, a CT, or an MRI to assess any brain damage. No symptoms from migraines were strong enough for me to have sought medical treatment other than the occasional dose of imetrex, and mental performance was good enough for me to graduate high school as valedictorian and to gain entrance to Georgia Tech. I never really considered that there might be any link between electrocution and my migraines until maybe five years ago.

Also, I fell on my head so often as a child that my parents jokingly referred to me as top-heavy.

Anyway, I didn't become aware of any aura-type phenomenon associated with my headaches until I was sixteen, and I think I was seventeen before I had an experience of a feeling of a presence. The above dream episode in 2001 was my last such experience.

As far as I know, of my immediate family only my mother occasionally has severe headaches, but she has never described to me any aura phenomena associated with her headaches. We have discussed the topic before, and I'm sure she would have mentioned phenomena akin to hallucinatory effects had there been any.

Again, feel free to use any of this information as you see fit. I understand that case studies in medical papers and journals are anonymous, and that is fine by me.

The only reason I requested otherwise for the dream description in my original post is that I am a professional writer and consider it to be part of my creative nonfiction portfolio, for which I would like to maintain my copyrights. Conversely, any material fom the interview I consider to be your property, to publish and do with as you wish.

Thanks again for the additional links!

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[info]k_something
2005-08-13 05:09 pm UTC (link)
I thank you very much again for sharing all these interesting information which will help other sufferers and also " science ". I will add the paragraphs with the additional clinical information also on the website, as you say it's o.k. for you it's certainly better to have all these data together for the ' critical reader '. I consider it as unlikely that the electrotrauma from the lightning actually played a role. I will send you a message as soon as the webpage or other results will be achieved, if you have any (now or future) questions regarding migraines, or other migraine experiences to share, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best, KP

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[info]k_something
2005-08-13 03:12 pm UTC (link)
The link to Molly Barr's painting

http://monkeysdragon.net/dragontree/beastlymigraine.htm

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