The Ferrett ([info]theferrett) wrote,
@ 2002-10-08 18:07:00
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Pop Is The Antichrist

Let's get something out of the way: I am an abusive boyfriend.

Not physically (though I've had to wrestle a few suicidally hysterical women into submission a couple of times), and only verbally in a very narrow sense.

You wanna tell me I'm a fuckwipe? Fine. Want to inform me that my politics are shit? Fine. That I am a waste of human flesh? No prob.

But there is absolutely one behavior that I will not put up with from any woman who dates me, or any of those who would call themselves my friends:

It's fucking soda, goddammit.

Gini came from Oregon, and she says the dreaded "P"-word, and I will admit that I badgered her about it unmercifully. Every time she said, "I'll have a pop," I would immediately explode in fury:

"A what?" I'd roar.

"A..."

And she'd suddenly cringe, realizing her mistake.

"It's a soda!" I'd shriek, pounding on the table; the waitress generally jumped back at this point. "A goddamn soda! There is no such thing as a pop!"

Proving that Pavlov was not only correct, but downright handy in many situations, Gini eventually learned never to say the "P" word around me.

It is a hallmark of my obsession with this nonsensical word that Bari, my previous girlfriend, said "soda" instead of "pop" - and Bari worked in a coffee shop in Michigan, where she heard more people saying "pop?" than Wilt Chamberlain.

I hate pop.

And now I know why.

A recent survey shows the distribution of people who grew up in a given area saying "pop," "soda," "coke," or the mysterious "other." We can do some interesting breakdowns.

Now, I've always known that "pop" was a Midwestern phenomenon, which sort of goes against it right there. After all, we have the West Coast, which brings us all sorts of movies, leftist treatises, and Disneyland; on the East Coast, we have neurotic writers, the finest colleges anywhere, and the heart of American politics. As a Yankee, it chokes me to admit it, but I can accept that the South produces fine writing on its own and some exceptionally beautiful corporate culture, as corporate culture goes.

But what does the Midwest have to offer? I mean, culturally?

I can see the headlines now: "Midwest offers State Fairs, Steel Mills, and rampant homophobia to grateful nation."

So on the one hand, we have the East Coast, as represented by "soda," which has given America the Constitution, the Stock Exchange, Woody Allen films, and the birthplace of modern jazz and hip-hop music; on the other hand, we have butter sculptures of Elvis.

That's a stroke against.

But let's break it down further and get past my racism; even assuming that my anti-borderal sentiments aren't entirely valid - and hey, who knows? Maybe Corn Dogs are equal in achievement to Frank Lloyd Wright's architectural masterpieces - then can we find a reason why I'm so irrational about this?

I believe we can.

Let's look at Ohio's soda vs. pop demographic:

5044 "pop" (agh) - 89.4%
599 "soda" - 10.6%


And compare to other major midwestern states:

Michigan:
953 "pop" - 72.3%
365 "soda" - 27.6%

Iowa:
1886 "pop" - 87.3%
273 "soda" - 12.7%

Illinois:
4790 "pop" - 72.5%
1820 "soda" - 27.5%

Okay.

Now wanna know why I'm such a soda fascist?

Connecticut:

1301 "soda" - 98.6%
18 "pop" - 1.4%

In other words, out of 1300 people, only eighteen misguided souls would admit to saying "pop." There may be people in Connecticut who say "pop," but I imagine they're hiding in the basement along with Anne Frank.

But what about other states I lived in?

Massachusetts: 98.3% in favor of soda.
Delaware: 98.3% in favor of soda.
Maine: 98.2% in favor of soda.

By these statistics, it's pretty safe to say that nobody I knew asked for soda, if only because the 1.3% of the people who said "pop" were evidently in the State Penitentiary or the mental institutions where they belong.

So you know what the right word is.


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Of course I know the right word
[info]celtidawn
2002-10-08 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Coke!

Yes it's me again, I should stop coming over. My opinons won't stand for this kind of talk. See below for second response and the real opinion.

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Re: Of course I know the right word - [info]theferrett, 2002-10-09 07:59 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Of course I know the right word - [info]kitsuchan, 2003-09-24 02:56 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]shawnj
2002-10-09 05:26 am UTC (link)
I know how you feel, man. When I moved out here from Jersey five years ago, it really irked me that people said pop instead of soda. Today, I've learned to repress my anger when people say pop, but it's still there, bottling up inside (hyuck, hyuck).

Seriously though, I would venture a guess that 89.4% of people from Ohio has slept with a sibling, so the fact that they also say pop doesn't suprise me ;)

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(no subject) - [info]longlostlove, 2004-01-02 04:22 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - voodooboi, 2004-03-05 12:22 am UTC (Expand)
From a Midwesterner....
[info]princessmon
2002-10-09 05:59 am UTC (link)
Hey now, we in the Midwest proudly offer our corn and cow products to the rest of the country!!!!!
And not everyone says "pop," I'll have you know. The more enlightened of us call bubbly drinks by their brand names to avoid the whole conflict.
We just think "soda" sounds stupid. =P
Soda is reminiscient of that icky soda water stuff, and baking soda, and Yoda.
Also, I was born in Ohio and don't even HAVE any siblings...just a guinea pig.
Oh lord, that sounded wrong. I think I'll go back to my corner now.
*neep*

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Re: From a Midwesterner.... - [info]theferrett, 2002-10-09 08:02 am UTC (Expand)

[info]blairwitchgreen
2002-10-09 07:42 am UTC (link)
Soda? Pop? You uncouth barbarians. Down here in Virginia, it's either mint juleps, ice tea, or nothing at all.

Mint Julep
2 teaspoons sugar
2 tablespoons water
6 to 8 sprigs of fresh mint
4 ounces bourbon

Ice Tea
12 ounces of Tea
3 Ice cubes
4 ounces of bourbon

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(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2002-10-09 08:03 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]blairwitchgreen, 2002-10-09 08:54 am UTC (Expand)
I Simply Must Have One - [info]theferrett, 2002-10-09 06:36 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: I Simply Must Have One - [info]mixedknuts, 2002-10-11 12:46 pm UTC (Expand)
Sounds lovely... - [info]fiannatiger, 2003-08-13 05:19 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ilcylic, 2005-07-14 03:26 am UTC (Expand)
Bite me popsucker!
[info]mixedknuts
2002-10-09 12:26 pm UTC (link)
I grew up a Midwesterner, I still say pop to this day, in spite of the fact that I've mostly cut it out of my diet. It's part of my cultural identity, and one of the few lingual clues that I'm still a Midwesterner at heart that remain. I've lived in the South (Oklahoma, Georgia, Virginia) for 8 years now (and learned to love it) and here they call _everything_ Coke.

Would you like something to drink?
Yeah, I'll have a Coke... do you have any Sprite?

So if you and your hoidy-toidy, soda-sucking, Northeasterner friends want to complain about the moronathon with regard to beverage naming conventions, please start with the Coke-heads in the South and leave the hardworking, nose to the grindstone, homophobic midwesterners out of it. Or at least bitch about something that Midwesterners consistently do wrong, like voting for presidential candidates, or selling out on the environment, or ostracizing people in our communities who think differently from the consensus, or acting surprised when the corporations we've worked for the last 25 years choose to cut our jobs in favor of lower paid, harder working individuals who happen to live in other countries.

But as far as "pop" goes, get over yourself. It's like suggesting that everyone should start interspersing the adjective "wicked" into their sentences for the betterment of the language as a whole.

If nothing else, "pop" provides a nice warning alarm for travelling friends of dorothy that they might be in Kansas.

--TK

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Re: Bite me popsucker! - [info]blairwitchgreen, 2002-10-09 02:17 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Bite me popsucker! - [info]theferrett, 2002-10-09 06:34 pm UTC (Expand)
Pop is Canadian for soda
[info]themage
2002-10-10 02:44 pm UTC (link)
You may want re-look at those stats, removing anyone who is a Canadian, has married a Canadian, or spends any amount of time in Canada. They are likely introducing a bias into the numbers. We don't actually have soda up here, unless it's straight soda water, which is pretty 'blech'.
So, there's likely a high degree of cultural contamination in the northern states. The northeast is excused, as they're closest to Quebec, and I think that they have 'So-dah' there.
It's just like spelling colour with a 'u'.

Cheers!

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Re: Pop is Canadian for soda - (Anonymous), 2002-10-12 04:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]and0o, 2003-09-26 09:27 am UTC (Expand)
Pop v.s. Soda
[info]cyrwrynn
2003-09-24 10:37 pm UTC (link)
That all wonderful and all but I'd have to say I have never said the word "soda", even with me being here for the past 11 years in California. Sorry for skewing the results but I have gotten my friends to say "Pop" as well. Each of them think that it is a very cute thing to say. My trouble is with the word "totally"... Whoever thought that one up was one insane person.

Well Ta Ta

-Becca

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[info]superjoe
2003-09-25 10:30 am UTC (link)
I thought it was "soda pop."

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[info]elvishorli
2003-09-25 12:33 pm UTC (link)
you're full of it. it's pop.

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(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2003-09-27 09:20 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]elvishorli, 2003-09-27 09:21 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]lindi_of_rohan
2003-09-25 08:25 pm UTC (link)
Hi grew up in Minnesota, which is obviously a Midwestern state. I always said "pop" until I moved to Florida, where everyone said "soda" and gave me weird looks when I said otherwise. I've since been taught to say "soda" but really, who gives a shit? It means the same thing, so just lay off, you soda and pop people. Just get over it, already.

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Yo, Lindi! Lend me some sugar, I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR! - [info]flame_of_death, 2004-01-25 09:52 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: Yo, Lindi! Lend me some sugar, I AM YOUR NEIGHBOR! - [info]jobiegirl6, 2005-06-22 08:20 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]moonrunner
2003-09-25 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Moving from North Carolina ("What the hell? Pop what?") to Oregon was difficult for me, and that was the very first thing that racked my nerves.

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Well...
[info]smsten
2003-09-25 11:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm from Australia, and we don't use Soda, or Pop. (though I agree Pop is stupid). Soda is just used for Soda Water (carbonated water). We call it 'Soft Drink'. or 'Fizzy Drink' Don't ask me where the whole Soft concept comes from. Since after all, it is Fizzy... but rarely soft....

Sara

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Re: Well... - bridgiebee82, 2003-09-26 08:47 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Well... - [info]ianiceboy, 2003-10-29 01:43 am UTC (Expand)
Re: Well... - [info]smsten, 2003-10-29 02:59 am UTC (Expand)
from another midwesterner...
hestia638
2003-09-26 12:59 am UTC (link)
i was raised in iowa. i still live in iowa. everyone here says the dreaded "p" word, i did for quite some time...until i worked at summer camp with five aussies and two kiwis, all of whom mocked us relentlessly until we realised how stupid "pop" sounded and made the big switch to "soda". i came home and found it driving me nuts when my firends did it, and eventually i won them over to soda as well...now i too am known for ridiculous rampages over "pop".

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[info]nekki
2003-09-26 12:38 pm UTC (link)
how about just "sodapop"? ....though I say it as pop XD

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[info]firemosa
2003-09-26 12:44 pm UTC (link)
Its fuckin pop dude. We will bury you.

- hailing from USchaumburg Illinois

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[info]kissedbythegods
2003-09-26 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Here in Canada we all say pop and make fun of you Americans and your soda!

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(no subject) - [info]echoofdarkness, 2003-09-26 10:54 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kissedbythegods, 2003-09-27 09:05 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2003-09-27 09:20 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kissedbythegods, 2003-09-28 08:38 am UTC (Expand)

[info]moonfox
2003-09-26 04:11 pm UTC (link)
I agree with you completely. I as born in Rhode Island, and moved to -Missouri- when I was six.. All you say is true. It drives me insane and I do th same thing to my friends. The don't get any soda unless they -ask- for soda, not "pop".

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[info]skyflower
2003-09-26 05:57 pm UTC (link)
The midwest idn't that bad. But we do all say pop. I do, but I really do like the word soda better... A smoother word, flows nicely. But soda doesn't flow nicely. The word must fit the item. Pop.

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(no subject) - [info]janustheanus, 2003-09-27 06:23 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]skyflower, 2003-09-27 09:27 am UTC (Expand)

[info]kissmymouth
2003-09-27 09:10 am UTC (link)
"pop" is a Canadian thing.

I was in the states once and asked for a pop, and I was given a blank stare. Then I asked for a "cola flavored SODA pop" and then a look of understand passed over her dull face.

Soda is what little kids say (mommy, i wanna some soda pwease)

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[info]snippet17
2003-09-27 12:11 pm UTC (link)
I do not here people say soda. It is pop.

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(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2003-09-27 09:19 pm UTC (Expand)

(Anonymous)
2003-09-27 01:11 pm UTC (link)
Soda is one of the ingredients in pop. I suppose you call salt "sodium" too. Your fear of single-syllable words amuses me. =)

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Thank you!
[info]libco
2003-09-27 04:16 pm UTC (link)
I live in West Virginia and I hate POP! It makes me crazy. I actually have the same outraged reaction you do. It pisses me off. It's soda dammit! At worse maybe say soda pop (but it still has the p-word). I even like "coke" better, but really since when is Doctor Pepper or 7-up "coke"? I wonder why it makes us so insane?

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[info]gillards_girl
2003-09-27 04:45 pm UTC (link)
I grew up, and still live in, Indiana. The majority of people I know use the 'p' word. I did for YEARS! When I met my husband, from Michigan, he got me saying 'soda'. My family looks at me funny, but I don't care. I'm usually pretty specific anyway... I want a Mountain Dew, DAMNIT! :D

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[info]atashii
2003-09-27 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Well, for one. I will say your a waste of human flesh, a complete asshole, and that you are full of it.
Two, the full name is "Soda Pop". So technically, your little girlfriend was right, and so are you, but your just a jerk off ass hole. Narrow minded.

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(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2003-09-27 09:24 pm UTC (Expand)
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(no subject) - [info]theferrett, 2003-09-28 12:29 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]lostsatyr
2003-09-28 07:14 am UTC (link)
It's pop in the Northeast too - New Your State, at least Buffalo and Rochester. "Soda" is how you spot someone from NY City.

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