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@ 2003-04-09 09:06:00
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Entry tags:awful, related to snape, speshul eyes

From the girl who brought us Lynx Potter?... this one is actually much worse.

TITLE: Trinity Snape
PERPETRATOR: Lady Knight Nick

SUE-O-METER: (how bad is it?)

 WRITING:**___
 SUEAGE:*****
 WRONGNESS:****_

FULL NAME: Trinity Snape
SPECIES: Human - possibly a witch, but I don't think any mention is ever made of her using any magic.
HAIR: Never described.
EYES: One gold one, one blue one.
MARKINGS: Other than bi-coloured eyes, nothing.
POSESSIONS: All kinds of nifty swords and stuff.

ORIGIN: Snape's daughter (natch), who hasn't seen her father in five years. *sniffle* Oh, the tragedy. She's only fourteen years old, but is coming to Hogwarts to teach - get this - 'warrior arts.' Yuh-huh.
CONNECTIONS TO CANON: Snape's daughter. Hagrid appears to have taken her under his wing, and Draco is, of course, attracted to her (I suppose this is preferable to his being attracted to his own half-sister in this author's other fic).
SPECIAL ABILITIES: The ability to hold the attention of a class she's teaching when all the kids are older than her. l337 ski11z with every weapon ever invented. Turning Ron Weasley's brain into week-old oatmeal.

NOTES: Somebody on [info]marysues (I'll stop referring to them soon! I promise!) expressed a hope that perhaps 'Lynx Potter?' was Miss Lady Knight Nick's first fanfic. Perhaps she had grown and matured since then. It was a beautiful fantasy that gave everybody hope.

Then, stupid me, I just had to go and look.

Not only is 'Lynx Potter?' not a first fic, it's not even a worst fic! In fact, it's actually half-decent compared to this steaming pile. 'Lynx Potter' stretched credulity. 'Trinity Snape' pulls it out like silly putty until the microscopically thin ends don't actually snap, but just kind of lose hold of each other and drift away.

Let's go down things point by point, shall we? Ridiculous name of main character? - check. I dunno about anyone else, but hearing 'Trinity Snape' gives me weird mental images of cyberpunk Hogwarts. Ridiculous appearance of main character? - check. Love them bi-coloured eyes. Sorry, but the only character who can get away with bi-coloured eyes is Kopii Rezo. Ridiculous reason for character to be present? - Woah, boy.

Hufflepuff help us, this girl, young enough to be a student (since she's not, I suspect she's a squib, in which case it's at least somewhat realistic that Snape wouldn't be too interested in her... what do wizards do with squib children, anyway? Does anyone know?), is at Hogwarts to teach. And she's not teaching magic, she's teaching fighting. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would have though wizards defended themselves with spells and hexes, not swords and bows. And where did this fourteen-year-old learn how to use all these various weapons anyway? I'll bet Snape didn't teach her.

Regardless, I'm pretty sure that in any universe it's unacceptable for teachers to get romantically involved with their students. Even when the students are older than they are.

Excuse me, I have to go throw up now. New Sue tomorrow.

SAMPLE:

The next day Trinity and Hagrid waited outside as their class assembled. "Welcome to the first day of fighting class. You may call me Trin or Trinity. I have one rule if your late or don't do as I say you run that track or you do exercises of my choice." Trinity said pointing at the track as she mentioned it. "Now has anyone ever fought using weapons of war?" A boy raised his hand. "Yes and your name?" She asked. A boy walked up.

"Sorry I..." He started.

"What's your name?" She asked him.

"Harry Potter." The boy who was late responded.

"Mr. Potter I don't want to hear your excuses. Now as I said before you came punishments will be dealt out for those who are late. Mr. Potter give me two laps around that track." Trinity said pointing to it. "At a run Mr. Potter." She added. Harry ran the track. "Now sr. your name and question?" She asked.

"Ronald Weasley. I would like to know what a weapon of war is." Ron said.

"A weapon of war is swords, knifes, daggers, staffs, bow and arrow, axe, war hammer, or a lance. Of course you'd have to ride a horse for the last one but I'm teaching that also." Trinity answered.

"I have." Draco said.

Trinity looked at him. "Mr. Malfoy correct?" She asked he nodded. "What is it that you know how to use?"

"My father made me learn to use swords when I was little." Draco answered.

"Can you still heft a sword?" Trinity asked.

"I think I can. To be honest Trin I haven't tried to in a long time." Draco said.

"Well Mr. Malfoy let us see if your body remembers the lessons. It should even with one lesson a body could remember how you ask it to work even after years." Trinity said. "Choose your sword wisely Mr. Malfoy." Trinity said. She removed her robes reveling her loose black cotton pants and a loose black tank top. A sword was strapped to her waist.

Draco picked up a sword testing the weight he put it down and tested another. Trinity removed her sword belt that hung on her hip. She removed the sword from its sheath. Draco removed his robes and stepped into the fighting ring with Trinity.

"Class before all work is done you will stretch. So everyone remove your robes and lets stretch." Trinity told them. They all stretched and when they were done trinity turned to Draco. "Hagrid call it."

"Cross your weapons." He said they brought up their weapons and crossed them. "By the code of fighting you may now GAURD." Hagrid called. Both swords pointed to the ground. Trinity feinted making Draco attack her. She lifted her sword to block swiftly. Draco brought his sword into a reverse butterfly sweep. Trinity blocked it. Draco turned away from the attack. Trinity quickly pulled he sword up to kiss his neck. Draco raised his hands.

"I yield." He said.

"Not bad. I can work with this." Trinity said.



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[info]kaesa
2003-04-09 08:44 am UTC (link)
"A weapon of war is swords, knifes, daggers, staffs, bow and arrow, axe, war hammer, or a lance." Staffs? Knifes? "You may now GAURD?" 0_o

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[info]tviokh
2003-04-09 08:59 am UTC (link)
Y'know, I think the only one who gets stuck with a worst batch of kids than Snape might be Voldemort...and that's only because none of Snape's kids have, thus far, called him "daddykins".

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[info]painttheskyblue
2003-04-09 09:13 am UTC (link)
what do wizards do with squib children, anyway?

Give them evil red-eyed cats and set them loose in Hogwart's as caretaker?

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[info]pottersues
2003-04-09 01:42 pm UTC (link)
Besides that. ^_^

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[info]iczer6
2003-04-10 09:34 am UTC (link)
First isn't it bad form to have your students address by your first name?

Second how about guns? Are guns 'Weapons of War'? I think a bazooka could out do a sword any day of the week.

Unless you're going up against those super powered monks who can fly and have those kick ass swords.

Enough Hong Kong action movies for me.


Icz

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(Anonymous)
2004-01-08 12:50 am UTC (link)
You can use the comma after dialogue. Not just a period- a *comma.* The comma is your friend.

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[info]vara_s
2004-02-22 11:15 am UTC (link)
Is there a name for stuff that just borrows the body and name of a pre-existing char?

Please?! Lets make a term up, if we have to!

I hate being associated with...I dunno how t' describe it, such childish blither. Almost makes me ashamed to say I write fanfic.

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Scary
(Anonymous)
2004-10-22 01:24 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear lord. It's one of Tamora Pierces hideous girl-warrior characters stuck in a Harry Potter fanfic. Lord save us all. Graceyxx

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Re: Scary
(Anonymous)
2005-04-04 08:12 pm UTC (link)
Gracey don't you ever fucking say that Tamora Pierce's characters are hideous! Just to let you know Tammy is my favorite writer and I will not let anyone bad mouth her so shut the fuck up before I have to find you and cut your tongue out of your bloody head so to keep her out of this!

Hell hath no furry as a dragon's scorn

I fight to protect The Goddess Tamora Pierce!

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Re: Scary
(Anonymous)
2006-03-06 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that is such a mature response.

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[info]elladora696
2005-02-17 09:51 am UTC (link)
what do wizards do with squib children, anyway?

well...some turn them into hedgehogs. :)

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[info]misery_desoul
2005-04-04 06:58 pm UTC (link)
Actually I just read that story and it did say she knows magic... it said she was a medi-witch and that she new all forms of war magic...maybe you should stop being such pigs and remember that there called fan fictions for a reason and get over yourselves... hm theres a bloody new idea for you love...

Maybe you should read my story maybe you can tell me how much of a bloody mary sue it is... cause if you hadn't noticed to idiots like you all everything is a marysue... maybe you should take that into consideration?

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2314321/1/

can wait to see what you say so I can bash you back my dear...

~Miz

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[info]cavechan
2005-07-31 03:17 am UTC (link)
I hope to god you were joking. let me correct the first chapter for you:

Past

Rayn tried to turn over. She was in the woods. "How'd I get here?" She asked herself before remembering what had happend almost two days before.

Dream scape thingy!

Rayn looked up at her father. He was tall with blue eyes and brown hair. To her he was like a king or god. She'd follow this extraordinary person anywhere. "Rayn, wait here and I'll be back in a second," he said and disapeared for a few minutes before he returned. "Ready to go for our walk through the woods?"

The girl nodded eagerly, she didn't know what was going to come, she couldn't even think that he was capable of it. He was her only family and she was so young. She's only five. They walked for a while till Rayn was lost in the woods that she'd been through so many times. "Where are we?" She asked.

"No where. You're staying here," he said and turned back-handing her sending her sprawling into a tree where she fell to the ground unconscious.

Ok, ok thats enough kill the bubble maker and smoke machine!

Rayn turned her head. Her neck was stiff. She heard a noise next to her and saw black shoes next to her face.

Okay, done. All I did was fix it so the grammar and spelling was actually correct. The story itself; uhm. Nice attempt? What else can I say... And, so far she is very much so a Mary Sue. Maybe she actually isn't, but I'm not anywhere near willing to read another chapter of this grammarless dribble.

And if you are actually interested in a story with my own female insert character, here you go on a silver platter:

http://www.txq.nu/jumpyboys/viewstory.php?sid=386

I can't say I'm the greatest writer ever, but I DO know how to at least use spellcheck.

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[info]cavechan
2005-07-31 03:19 am UTC (link)
She asked herself before remembering what had happened almost two days before.

Sorry, missed that. And I didn't properly close my italics tag, so I apologize for that also.

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[info]venusx3
2008-06-12 06:14 pm UTC (link)
Okay, let's think over that statement. "it said she was a medi-witch and that she new (which is KNEW) all forms of war magic". How old is she? 14. What 14 year old would know all of this, and be able to teach a class that is totally irrelevant for witches and wizards. There are spells for everything, and I mean everything. JK gives you the freedom to come up with more spells because she never specified how many there were. On top of that, would Dumbledore allow a 14 year old to teach? I think he would have at least FORCED her to become a student, even against her will because he's like 115 and knows better.

"Maybe you should read my story maybe you can tell me how much of a bloody mary sue it is... cause if you hadn't noticed you idiots like you all everything is a marysue... maybe you should take that into consideration?". If that is a display of your grammatical prowess, then no thanks. I think I just died a little when I read that. You wrote Mary-sue two different ways, which is annoying, and that sentence made absolutely no sense. Shouldn't it be "... cause if you hadn't noticed, to idiots like you, everything is a Mary-sue...". Commas are your friend, not something to be totally disregarded like an elementary student would. Besides, all everything? Isn't that a bit redundant, I mean, last time I checked, all and everything were synonymous and therefore it was stupid and shows you're lack of grammatical skills by placing them like that.

"Mary Sue, sometimes shortened simply to Sue, is a pejorative term used to describe a fictional character who plays a major role in the plot on such a scale that suspension of disbelief fails due to the character's traits, skills and abilities being tenuously or inadequately justified. Such a character is particularly characterized by overly idealized and clichéd mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too ostentatious for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly—kind of an "author's pet" effect"(Wikipedia.com).

I'm pretty sure that's not a fanfic. Usually fanfics take characters(notice the characters, not the names) and puts them into different situations to see how they react. I know for a fact that not all fanfics are Mary-Sues. Only BADLY written ones with people who are either first-time writers (I was one, sadly but I've gotten better) or with people who have no sense of realism and cannot tell a story with a good plot and developed characters. Everyone has a flaw, no one is perfect, even a magical creature. There's always some kind of drawback or conflict.

As you can see, I really hate Mary-Sues, or badly written fics and your comment just added coal to the proverbial fire. I'm not attacking you (ok, maybe I am, but unintentionally), I'm trying to get you off your high horse and to actually see what the truth is and what's so wrong about a Mary-Sue (#1, is that they are completely unrealistic).

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[info]cavechan
2005-07-31 03:04 am UTC (link)
I just have to say that this story would have actually been at least somewhat believable if she wasn't friggin' 14 years old! I kept imagining her to be like Yoruichi in Bleach. The writing itself is absolutely dreadful.

"At a run Mr. Potter." She added. Harry ran the track.

What the heck is this supposed to mean?! Did she mean "go for a run, Mr. Potter"? And then the "Harry ran the track" - the verb tense is completely messed up. It makes NO sense!

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[info]morosina
2005-11-24 07:05 pm UTC (link)
I have one rule if your late or don't do as I say you run that track or you do exercises of my choice."

Did anyone besides me realize that was two rules?

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(Anonymous)
2007-07-06 01:19 am UTC (link)
What.... happened to Draco?! "when I was little"? "I think I can"? Just... no! Where's his cocky attitude? His smug grin as he brags about his talents with weapons? Why did he give up?!

The only thing I hate worse than a Mary Sue is a horribly messed-up cannon character. >.>

- Akana

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[info]literallovely
2008-02-19 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Welcome to the first day of fighting class.

Dude, they have fighting class now?! ;)

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