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Jun. 4th, 2008

Hacksaw

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The UK - Where do we go from here?

It's been clear something has been rotten in the state of British Eurovisionism for some time, but after this year's sorry showing it is more and more pressing that something drastic has to be done.

I really don't know what the BBC were thinking this year. As we all noted a few dozen times before the contest, there wasn't anything necessarily wrong with the good Mr Abraham per se, he was merely a nice man singing a nice song in a horrible suit - but there was absolutely nothing that you could hang your nasty blue jacket on about the song.

It was almost as if the BBC felt a little embarrassed about its last two years' offerings and decided to go anoynmous, hoping that something ordinary an uncurrent would sneak in somewhere mid table. But it was clear from the very outset that they'd made an extraordinarily retrogressive step when they announced the format of the revamped Eurovision: Your Decision.

Say what you like about Making Your Mind Up, at least it had a try. It got, for the most part, moderately well known acts involved, and did at least engender some modicum of involvement in the viewers. But E:YD came over as a garbled, ill-conceived mess. Half an idea stretched into a faltering concept, that was tricky to follow and lacking in any dynamism.

It also underlined where the UK has been going wrong these past few years. Until the mass involvement of the more Eastern nations, Eurovision had always been a light entertainment show - a cosy Saturday night in. But unhindered by the boum-bang-a-loo legacy of Eurovision, the old Warsaw Pact mob have brought it near screaming to the present day, turning the thing dang nearly into a music show. But we don't appear to have got that yet. Indeed, by sending cosy Saturday night entertainers from cosy casting shows, we clearly haven't been thinking too straight.

Over the many weeks of a Joseph & Mary Chain type show, we'll get to know the personalities of the on screen contestors, fall in love with them and find their grannies amusing. So when they pop up on the box in whatever the next Eurovision casting show is going to be called we'll go, "Oh yes, I liked that binman - he had a lovely wife and kids!" And of course when it gets to a busy Saturday night in May, the good punters of Europe will merely mumble "Who's that shuffling amateur singing a polite but ordinary song? NEXT!" In three heady minutes, the very thing we loved about the unfortunate cove will be his ultimate downfall. Light entertainment's steady conveyor belt of happy-go-lucky chumps stretching out another slightly worthy soul's fifteen minutes by another painful few seconds.

So where do we go from here?

Well following Spain's egalitarian model and opeing the thing out to the masses on MySpace would be a cracking idea - although it would almost certainly ensure that Bill Bailey would provide our next entry. And as funny and musically talented as he is, I'm not convinced that's where our immediate future should lay.

Then we could have a try at catering our entry to the contemporary flavours of the contest. And I don't mean by witlessly chucking out a piece of faux Eastern whimsy, ala Javine - a decent enough song completely out trumped by a winning song that truly meant it. But we missed a cracking opportunity in Kiev to send a band like The Ukrainians - a British band of Eastern heritage playing in the local idiom, who also happen to be able to write a stompingly good singalong tune. One that would have been remembered, for a while at least, as having had a go, rather than trying to be Saturday night cool. But while it may seem on the outset like a good idea, it could quickly decent into laziness, chasing the last big thing or trying to second guess the next one. For an object lesson in this, just look at how poorly this year's Maltese entry fared, with it's attempted pandering to the East. And that's not to mention poor Dustin.

Personally, I've always thought we ought to have more variation on the list - and not just the eight sides of the same coin stuff we were presented with in the last few MYMUs. For years I've been lobbying the BBC to save a slot for at least one so-called alternative or indie act in the Song For Europe ranks. We wouldn't miss one bland spot of pop from some hapless hopeful, if there was a decent bit of stomping rock in the pile. And then I got thinking about how cool it would be if Jools Holland took over the thing, just for a year. Let him choose the acts, commission them to write a song each for it, and hold it Later-style, in the round, with an entirely different slant on the performances. We're in a position, at least for the near forseeable, where we're in the final anyway. So why not take a leaf out of France's book and send someone who doesn't stand Bob Hope of getting many points, but who would offer a genuinely jaw dropping moment of marvelousness?

But now I've developed this plan even further. Why not just make next year's Mercury Prize shortlist our Song For Europe line up? Our music industry proper is still the envy of the world, and these are the artists chosen by the labels as the cream of the widest range of UK musics possible. There's great pop, massive rock, strange folksy business and indescribe oddness. But it's all mostly fabulous, and totally and unashamedly British.

Cast a look down the list of last year's nominees. Arctic Monkeys, Dizzee Rascal, Amy Winehouse, Jamie T, Klaxons, Bat For Lashes, Fionn Regan, New Young Pony Club, The View, Young Knives, Maps & Basquiat Strings - a panopoly of stuff we're brilliant at and artists we should be truly proud of. You may not have heard of all of them, but you bet your life they know how to perform the heck out of a song. Admittedly there may be a few of them who may decide that Eurovision wasn't quite their thing, but how would be ever know if we don't ask. I know from my years interviewing bands as a music journo that there were many acts you wouldn't immediately assosciate with Eurovision who would have jumped at the chance. So why not put it out to tender and see if they bite.

Alternatively we could just send Motorhead and be damned. How flipping brilliant would that be!

May. 26th, 2008

Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

A fairer kind of televoting

I'm thinking out loud here, so this probably has a glaring loophole or is completely non-viable for some reason that I haven't spotted yet. At the moment, the points are allocated by counting the absolute number of telephone calls and SMSes made, with all the fun and enjoyment which that leads to when the points get announced. I'm going to propose a system that would - I think - exactly cancel out the effects of friendship and diaspora and focus the results back on the popularity of the songs.

It gets complicated very quickly, but it'd take a matter of seconds for a computer to sort it all out. Read on... )
Beograd

[info]oneurope

General Thoughts ( will be updated as and when they come to me today)

I'll start with the United Kingdom of Stuff first.

ENTER A BLOODY DECENT SONG!!!

We can, and do, moan all we like about block voting but have conveniently forgot the following :

1 - Our song had NO appeal at all. It appealed to the Irish (well in so far as it was 3rd best) and it was the 5th best in the opinion of 8 people in a room in San Marino - hardly the basis of a hoo-har campaign is it?

2 - WOGAN saved this song himself - and then has the gaul to say "it's all political"

3 - It entered the charts at number SIXTY-SEVEN, If it had appeal then surely our own public would buy it?

4 - The UK Press have conveniently forgotten that we gave 12 points to CYPRUS in the Semi and 10 to Turkey and 12 to Greece in the Final - and we stand and shout about other Diasporas when ours is working just fine thanks!

Andy couldn't even win X Factor, which people forget as well and now we get Cheryl Baker in the Mirror claiming we should pull out... WHY?! - Has she not looked at the results in the last fifteen years?

( Just to remind you - they would be 10=,8,1,2,12,16,15,3,26,16,22,19,22 and officially 25)

So its not a new phenom that we have been crap in the last few years, with 5 exceptions we have been outside the top ten for the last FIFTEEN!!

Don’t you think it's about time we realised that it is the song that still makes a difference and that we really REALLY do need to start entering things that are... and here is a controversial statement, GOOD?! When we do, we have come in the top 3 - when we don't, we're poor..

GRRR @ British Press.
Beograd

[info]oneurope

I will post a couple of things today...

The first being this taken directly from the Mailing list that I am a member of, with thanks to Liam Jarnecki.

"Mr Kennedy O'Connor and Mr Gambaccini have just pointed out ( On Radio 4's today programme)

a) Dima is a megastar with 3 MTV awards
b) He always gives good value- eg the piano girl, the Stradi, the Ice
skater etc
c) Andy couldn't even win X factor
d) Wogan chose Andy personally against a public vote and so had a
personal credibility thing going on
e) The cost of the UK's contribution if we pulled out would pay for
about 10 minutes of Dr Who
f) Maybe we should pull out of Wimbledon because we don't win that
either
g) It's all sour grapes

Well done lads-
Let them do the commentary maybe!

I think Wogan really set this all up. He misrepresented Dima to the
British viewers, didn't give the audience the right context or
background e.g. telling us what the bookies saw coming.

His phrase "Words gone out, it's Russia's turn this year" was
unnecessary, unsubstantiated and a clear suggestion that there is a
controllable block vote as opposed to the reality which which is
millions of people making their own minds up."

May. 25th, 2008

Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

OK, so I got that one wrong...

It's not like it's not been staring us in the face for weeks now, but I was still a little surprised by that result. It's a winner that I don't feel I'll ever be able to love, but I don't expect to like everything! Actually, I've been overdue for a winner that I didn't like, I've not really had a major problem with any winner since Eimear Quinn in 1996.

All the same, no denying that the Russians really wanted it and put everything into getting the win. People are now poring over the full results of everything and wondering what to make of it all. The thing that's leapt out is that FYR Macedonia came 10th in the televote in SF2... and the jury saved Sweden. And that Russia was third behind Greece and Armenia in Semi 1. And that 14 points for last place is a new ESC record. And lots of other things.

I'm going to sleep on it myself rather than type in haste, as I've got to hop into a taxi at 8:00 tomorrow morning to go to the airport. As indeed have the rest of the team!

I'm not cross though. I don't like the Eurovision winner, and tomorrow morning the sun still rises! :-)

May. 24th, 2008

Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

One last word before the fray...

If you're reading this before the contest, you really ought to get off the internets and settle yourself in for the big night.

If you're reading it afters...blimey, I didn't see THAT coming!

Bon chance bold readers!
Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

Web Counters

Free Web StatisticsDammit. I've been rumbled. All my random posts have just been a sinister plot to spy on you - yes, YOU, the person reading this now, I know you're there - while you've been reading the blog. Phil tells me that we've racked up an impressive 7 unique visitors this year, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm not very good at cutting and pasting the hit counter code properly. Or remembering numbers correctly. One or the other.

In other news, let me say just one more time that I Do Not Know What's Going To Win. I want it to be Portugal, the Press Centre en bloc predicts that it's going to be Portugal, and the weather in Lisbon's supposed to be very nice at this time of year. Oh, incidentally, it looks like this OnEurope poll from 2006 is still open for comments, if anyone feels like changing their opinion!

Anyway, that's me done for now. Good luck to all for tonight, and special good luck to the UK of Stuff who are lovely people and are the reason why I've been here for the last fortnight with a bit of plastic round my neck; to the Serbian producers that all goes well with the show; and to Portugal, who will win me the cost of my trip if they come out on top of the scoreboard.

OnEurope there, biassed against Portugal since... well, forever really! :-D
Beograd

[info]oneurope

We're resting

It's less than 3 hrs to the contest and we are in the press centre before moving onto the main thingummy - you remember that - the contest you fell in love with.

Apparently, so we hear, the BBC and Sky news are trying to do a stitch up job on the contest by claiming that it's all Eastern Europe blah, blah, blah and that the UK will do badly because of this blah blah blah!

GOD I HATE THE MEDIA OF MY COUNTRY.

A few pointers here :

1 - Andy Abraham will do badly because the UK don't know what song to enter in this contest.
2 - *IF* it's an Eastern European stitch-up, then why on earth has Russia registered ZERO wins? - Apparently they have the biggest diaspora - alledgedly!
3 - Last time I looked, it didn't matter about West and East because the last 2, and maybe 3 winners, had votes from everywhere!
4 - Has no one told tham that the old eurovision countries outnumber expansion countries 13-12?!

Excuses before we have even lost - blimey talk about priming for a defeat and getting your excuses ready!!

There endeth the rant!

Now back in the real world I expect one HELL of a contest tonight as has already been remarked upon - Enjoy it, I know I will ;)
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

Hind with Orchestra at the Sava Centar

All of you who weren't there missed a treat!



Oh, and sorry for the poor picture quality. I'll try and mend that soonest!
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

A short film about Turkeys

The Irish Do...

Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

Some nice vids from ESC fortnight...

To keep you going, here's some televisual joy from the varied business that we've been getting up to... If yer still awake...

The Azeri do...
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

The Albanian Reaction

I've just been reading in the BBC World New Serbian section about how they hope that Eurovision will help the rest of Europe see it in a much better light. Well after what we witnessed from the hall last evening from some of the regular locals they'd better hope that some of their people don't let 'em down.

The Albanian booing and hissing is well documented, but it's pretty horrible to sit in among when it's going on, given some of the very recent history of this place. But there were also a few other causes for concern. The very normal looking family of old ladies and nice girls in front of us repeatedly gave big thumbs down to anything Ex Yugo that wasn't Serbian, and many people around the hall gave an apparent nationalistic hand sign when their song was on.

Now this may be just down to my naive interpretation of local rivalries, as I'm sure an English entry would afford similar hand signs in Scotland if ever our scabby isles were dismembered into their constituent parts, but given what we know, it perhaps wasn't the best advert for a country I've had an absolutely smashing time in, and really enjoyed the company of pretty much every local I've met.

Just be prepared for a fair bit jeering when anything remotely Albanian is mentioned on the telly tonight.
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

To those of you who don't believe the Portuguese really want to win this, just listen to the change in emotion in the voice of the Portuguese commentator after her gal's name comes out of the envelope...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNDmMtVXYIs

You don't need to speak the lingo to get how she feels!
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

Like the morning of a wedding

Y'know, where no one really knows what to do with themselves, but knows they can't get involved in anything too time consuming just in case it overlaps with the big do. It's just like that here. Everyone's half edgy, half expectant, and half something else that sensible maths would forbid.

I'm just sat here in the press centre, uploading a movie for a pal's ESC party and watching this arvo's last run through on the telly. And I still have no flupping clue. My biggest surprise is just how fabulous France looks. It's not going to do owt, but they've polished off some of the rough edges, but left the best ones in, and the whole room couldn't take their eyes off the screen for the full 3 mins. Proper hypnotic, it were. Not sure the good voters of Europe are going to 'get it' and our Phillyalways doesn't. But I don't really care, cos we'll always have it in our little Eurovision vault, like a happy puppy perpetually kept young. Niceness.

And even though all the accompanying stuff, like the curiously sapphic opening, the thankfully under used show hosts (future winning countries please take note) and the proper bonkers in the nut green room wallahs - ooh, and the banging Balkan beats in the middle - are less showy and more cosy than last year, it all kind of binds together into a nice little three and a bit hours of jolly fun.

And who's going to win it? I'll stick my neck out and say none of them. Never one to be non-committal me.

And if I don't get the chance to post on here again in the next few hours, I'd just like to say a big thank you to all our readers and respondents - even the ones who didn't agree with us. You've made this one of my most enjoyable online Eurovision experiences in ages. As some of you may know, I do this writing larky for a living (not that you'd know it to read my blatherings), so I've got enough proper work to keep me busy throught Eurovision fortnight. So I do this blog for the genuine fun of it, and it's been an absolute pleasure to hear all your thoughts and comments.

Cheers for reading us, and good luck to the big 25 tonight - make it a good one for us!

May. 23rd, 2008

Beograd

[info]oneurope

Eeeeerm...

...well having just sat through the evening dress rehearsal I now know that I know precisely nothing about this contest any more.

And that is a good thing.

Basically, for me, it reinforced the fact that Portugal, Russia, Ukraine, Sweden, Serbia, Israel, Finland ,Iceland and Azerbaijan all have a shot at the top 5. Now the keen eyed amongst you will notice that that makes 9 songs for 5 slots. Believe you me it is THAT open and those are only the ones that I can think of now at 11.32pm CET!

I believe that the semi finals have done this contest the world of good and actually have got rid of the p00 songs and that we are genuinely left with the 25 best songs. You opinions will be different of course but welcome non the less.

This *is* the contest I fell in love with, because it has all the ingredients of a classic. Loads of variety, different things following each other so there are very rarely 2 songs that are the same next to each other - and the voters of Europe should be totally confused so votes will be coming in from all over the place. One of my managers said to me " When will you grow up" meaning out of the contest - my reply?? "never"

We may well be writing something from here tomorrow but we'll see - as you can appreciate there is something else happening tomorrow.

Thank you for visiting over the last 15 days - we have had 250% more visitors than last year which is amazing!!

See you tomorrow or, if we dont make it, on Sunday night or Monday for a wrap-up!
Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

Typed in haste...

...we've whizzed over from the arena back to the press centre and we're even more confused than ever. Latvia's great even though it's terrible; Portugal easily gets the biggest response outside the local favourites (and is in the lead on the press centre predictions board); Serbia is scary big in the hall, but it would be; Georgia made a few people turn to each other and say "I've got an awful feeling..."; Germany's dead in the water; UK looks good in context but not good enough; Denmark's lyrics make no sense if you start analysing them; and I now have slightly less clue than I did two hours ago.

OnEurope there, getting confused so you don't have to.

While I'm about it, and so I don't forget in the excitement of tomorrow, I want to officially thank the RTS organisers, and especially all the press centre volunteers, for their hospitality and help throughout our stay. It's been seamless all the way from a journalistic point of view, it's all just been easy from start to finish. No doubt next year's organisers will think of even more things that we'd never even realised people were doing wrong, but it's certainly been my best ESC experience to date. And I didn't believe it was possible to top Helsinki.

Officially, the press centre closes for the day in 30 minutes' time, so I'll sign off for the day at this point and sit back to watch some of the voting rehearsal.

Tomorrow, I might well provide the key to understanding all the random blog posts which have caused such benign bafflement to most readers during the fortnight. But feel free to speculate on that in the comments, or what might win tomorrow night; whichever you feel is easier to work out!
Hacksaw

[info]roy_d_hacksaw

Less clue than when we started

It appears at this thing that the more you know, the less you actually understand. And the more you're convinced one thing is going to happen, another pops round and bites you on the niblets.

So we all know that Russia have bought the contest. But also that Azerbaijan have bought it more. But then again, Croatia are bound to nip in from behind, but Ukraine are certain to win the thing now they've got that cracking draw. But forget all that, there's a strong wind in Portugal's sails, and it's not looking like it's going to founder on the rocks. And of course, Lithuania is going to qualify easily... ahem...

Having just viewed the first full final rehearsal, a few things have become clear...

That basketball player is flippin'huge

The interval act band is flippin' ace (Although the show's a bit static after last year's)

France need to do some work on their camera angles if they are going to get any flippin' points

And I have absolutely no idea who's going to win this flippin' thing!

Oh, and in other news, two of the lovely Anonymous from Andorra just walked in, completely at random. they're here for the holiday - it seems that once you're bitten by the Eurovision bug you just can't escape. They just gave me a disc with some of their new stuff on too. Smashing lads!
Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

Administrivia - ah, how I've missed it!

There mightn't be a huge amount of bloggage between now and the contest from here. Rehearsals in the arena tonight, and we're hoping to take our last chance to actually see some of the Belgrade scenery tomorrow before we fly home early on Sunday morning. I don't think we're quite finished yet, but don't expect the usual level of last minute analysis that you normally get from us - because being unable to deliver the analysis is a perfect way to disguise the fact that we still don't have a fricking clue what's going to happen! :-)
Thunderbird 5

[info]nick_at_esc

I guess...

I might as well live blog too, as I'm here.

Enquire within.. )
Beograd

[info]oneurope

Final first rehearsal

Will be here from 3pm CET - constantly updated )

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