Me Myself and I ([info]janisfan) wrote in [info]new_moms,
@ 2005-10-18 06:37:00
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rant about depression
So yesterday in class we were learning about depression. I looked at the symptoms of depression and said aloud and to myself: “Gee, I have every single one of them. Low energy-check. Low sex drive-check. Lack of sleep or sleeping too much – double check. Poor personal hygiene-check. Irritability-check. Over or undereating-check. Hard time enjoying stuff –check. Lack of interest in former activities-check. Feeling guilty over stuff that is uncontrollable-check.” And then I looked at the causes listed and there it was: post-partum depression. And then I got to thinking: Shit every new mother feels all of this at least once…. And then I got to thinking even more and I started to think – why the fuck am I – are we- is society- pathologizing something that is so freaking NORMAL?!

In fact, I probably would not feel like this much of the time if the society I live in gave me some fucking support. So that I wouldn’t have to work a full time job 4 months after I gave birth…so I wouldn’t have to get my 4month old baby up and out of the house so I can get to work by 8am. Perhaps I would be less irritable if I could be assured that my kid was gonna get a quality public school education followed by a decent college education without having to go bazillions of dollars in debt. Or if I could keep working and Marty could quit his job to take care of Sadie without losing his health insurance which covers both he and Sadie. Or if he did quit his job we wouldn’t have to pay 400/month full premium to get them on my insurance. Going without health insurance is too fucking scary. And don’t suggest we get one of those personal plans b/c what with marty’s trans status and my prior history of clinical depression plus whatever else Kaiser has on me that ain’t happening. Or if any of the mother’s groups and the like met in the evening or weekends rather than during the weekday. If the people in the fucking OBSTETRICS ward had been more supportive so I could have felt empowered and more secure and so I could have learned about breastfeeding and newborn care rather than feeling bad and disempowered and exhausted and well, depressed.

So then we got to talking about treatment for depression. And then I got to thinking AGAIN. So, I am “supposed” to go on antidepressant medication so that I can feel better. So I can roll over and accept this sorry state of affairs. SO I can be complacent. So I can be a fucking stereotypical woman who bows down to authority and just accepts what is offered her because she just wants everyone to be happy so she can take care of everybody without regard to how she really feels about a situation. When what I – we - really ought to be doing is to rant and rave and march and shout and rebel and change the fucking system that makes motherhood a freakin pathological state. So NO I will not be going on any wellbutrin, Zoloft, prozac, celexa, or any other happy pills. I will not be given some medication so I can learn to accept a state that does not bear worthy of acceptance.

What I CAN do is come to accept that I am placed in an unacceptable situation….one that I have varying powers to change. And I can work on changing the things I can. And I can stop feeling sorry for myself and I can just get on with my life. Move on. Use my anger constructively and work for change.

I am not saying that all antidepressant use is bad or that I wouldn’t consider using them at some point. In fact, I did a course of prozac a few years ago that I found was extremely helpful. But I am changing the label…busting it open and refusing to succumb.



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[info]destinys_brink
2005-10-18 08:53 am UTC (link)
I'd clap if you were in front of me right now. Yes. Exactly. There are a million and one NORMAL reasons I was depressed after pregnancy too. A lot of them had to do with how my life was. Because, lets face it, if I were rich and famous and didn't have to worry about having support because I could hire them, or worry about not being around my children enough because when I needed a little extra moolah I could just take a few snap shots for Nike...I probably wouldn't have been so down with motherhood. I have a definite problem with using drugs as a way to counter-act depression in the first place. We live in a chemical society who is so abnormal to begin with anyone in their right mind ought to wonder who the hell is defining "normal" anyway. I work as a pharmacy tech and you'd be shocked how many of these drugs are harmful to your brain...yet they prescribe them to millions more people every day. Not only that, these drugs change the chemical state of your mind after years of use...so you literally are never the same again which can lead to all sorts of other problems...the most common? Schizophrenia. Believe it. I understand that there are some people who need aniti-depressants because they have chemical imbalances and need the MAOI action to resolve that problem...but women who are experiencing post-partum depression don't typically show signs of a chemical imbalance. More often, adjustment is something each of us deal with differently...
But anyway, thank you for that. It was most refreshing. :)

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[info]missunderrated
2005-10-18 09:48 am UTC (link)
The US really needs to get their shit in check and get on board with one yr paid maternity leave. I find it so sad that most mommies have to go back to work at 6 weeks while their child gets shipped to daycare, because really, who can live off of a single income in this day and age (if your partnered with someone that is, you obviouslt have no choice if you are single).

I agree with many aspects of your post here - most importantly, the changes that need to be made in America society in order for families to flourish in a functional and happy way.

I am Canadian - and I am so thankful that I have one year leave, and free health care and daycare subsidies if my child ever does have to go into daycare. I am thankful that my doctor isn't pill happy and gives me other ways to channel my negative thoughts and energies.

One thing that is the same across the board in the US AND Canada is 'Mommy guilt'. We need to stop that. We will destroy ourselves if we don't.

Nice perspective Momma! You made me think a bit today :)

Amy
Mom to Jimmy 05/30/05

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mackenziesmommy
2005-10-18 01:10 pm UTC (link)
Very well said!!! There are too many pill happy doctors who think that a little bottle of "miracles" are going to turn your life around. I completely understand if somebody really needs medication to function but there are so many alternatives for other people. I remember hearing someone on LJ not to long ago who posted her birth story and one of the only things I remeber from it was her doctor told her she needed to start on antidepressants ASAP just in case she had PPD! All I could think is how sad that must have been if she was taking them if they were not needed b/c some doc felt it was his place to decide that.

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[info]sweetangel81
2005-10-18 10:12 pm UTC (link)
I guess I'm gonna have to disagree but not to start trouble only because I am dealing with this stuff right now...I had ppd right after I had my baby girl and being on Zoloft for 4 months truly helped before than all I wanted to do was hide in the shower and cry and right now I am dealing with horrible panic and anxiety attacks luckily I have a very educated doctor that is helping me with YES the help of medication...It tooks me a few month of suffering to where I was just in such a state that my mother had to come help because I was thinking I could handle it and that if I took the medication that I would be weak and that I was going crazy...but my doctor explained to me if it was something you could control you wouldn't be in the position you are in it's a chemical imbalance and that's all some people need is to get the chemicals and hormones balanced with some help of medication I comend you on working through the depression w/o meds BUT if you do need them NEVER EVER feel ashamed or wait to the point that could be dangerous that was my biggest mistake was waiting because I felt because of pressure from what society thinks when you take anti depressents that you are crazy or trying to take the "easy" way out...there are no miracle pills out there even when you start treatment it still takes a month or more to have the effects of them...I have been suffering daily panic attacks which are so excurciating that at some pts my stomach is so knotted I throw up...Soo I am thankful that these medications are here helping me back on the road of regaining my life..and enjoying my life.

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[info]janisfan
2005-10-19 07:38 am UTC (link)
I actually do agree with you...and am sorry if this came across as being judgmental. As I wrote towards the bottom, I am not against taking medication -indeed I have in the past and will consider it in the future...

Post partum depression is iindeed a harsh reality for many of us (myself too - I said I had all the symptoms). What I was ranting against was the lack of support that we as mothers get in the US society we live in and how that lack of support contributes to PPD. What I meant by my not taking pills was that I was not going to take medication so that I would accept what society has to offer. Indeed I will and would consider it to make myself be able to function better and to work towards change.

The last thing I intended with this post was to leave anyone feeling judged or unsupported. I am glad that you are having a positive experience with your OB/GYN. I had a very poor experience with my labor/delivery and although my NP did not participate in the delivery at all I am finding it hard to trust her since she works for the agency that did do the delivery.

Thanks for your comment. I can see how this point needed clarification. I wrote the post at midnight (didn't post it til the morning).

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[info]sweetangel81
2005-10-19 02:04 pm UTC (link)
Oh no prob didn't want any drama needed just that I could have misinterpeted also parts of it...and I'm sorry about your NP and awful experiance I had a really hard pregnancy but a super suprise was I actually got VERY lucky to have gotten some good docs that knew what they were doing which is quite rare for the military...my 1st pregnancy which ended in m/c was a horrid experiance because of just that fact of having awful doctors. I hope that you can get through ppd without taking meds that would be great cause..I know how icky it feels not looking forward to much in life at the moment...I hope to hear about your progress and that it only gets better :) And I agree there definitly isn't alot of support for new mothers and PPD because our great grandparents and grandparents didn't know about PPD than I suppose we still need to suffer or be considered weak it's quite sad.

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