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Entry tags:characterization rants: protagonists, fantasy rants: spring 2005

Some ideas on fascinating characters
Right. So I did this by thinking of characters in novels that I find fascinating, and then deciding on what makes them so. There is therefore no more objectivity here than usual.

Also, this should be obvious, but just in case: This is not about making characters likeable, which is another rant. This is just about what I think holds the reader’s attention.



1) Choose a quality that you find fascinating and show it. This therefore moves the author away from doing nothing but telling me all about the beauty of the characters. Yay.

It also should prevent the problem that shows up when people decide to declare that their character has “intelligent green eyes” and then have the character act like an idiot. Intelligence, courage, ambition, wit, skill, endurance, patience, and so on have to be shown, not told. One sentence on her intelligence does not stack up against 100 pages of the character being an airhead.

So! Show me the character caught flatfooted, without any backup plan to get out of being caught with her hand in my lady’s jewel-box, and improvising her way out of the situation with a clever lie. Show her coming up with a battle plan that will keep the enemy army from getting inside the castle. Show her figuring out the solution to a mystery that has baffled generations—though you have to make the mystery really hard in that case, or it looks like the character solved it by chance. All of these are cool scenes to write, all of them work to demonstrate that, yes, this character is smart, and all of them will insure that stupid phrases like “intelligent green eyes” never show up again.

Do qualities by themselves make the character fascinating? No. I’ve read intelligent people I wanted to slap because they were pompous about their brains or fit too well into the “absent-minded professor” mode. But it helps when the author herself finds the quality fascinating and shows it off to good effect. Inspiring that kind of emotional bond in your audience will be easier if you share it.

2) Hurl the unexpected at the character, and then have them do the unexpected. This is fascinating for the author, too, because he has to build the character’s personality like a puzzle-box or a plot mystery. There have to be clues that a character who seems fragile really does have what it takes to survive the coming storm, or a character who scoffs at everything and lazes around might care about his friend if convinced that friend was truly in danger. The narrative and the author and the character himself can insist on one interpretation, and the reader might faithfully follow that interpretation as far as it goes. But when the crisis comes and the character manages to do something unexpected and wonderful, the reader can remember the clues, respect the author for not appearing to pull this transformation out of thin air, and then get even more interested, because, hey, this is someone who has layers.

I actually have two examples for this, one fantasy and one non-fantasy. The first concerns Aunt Kade, the aunt (duh) of the princess Inosolan in Dave Duncan’s “A Man of His Word” quartet. Kade is the archetypal older woman who wants her niece to wear pretty clothes, learn her manners, take tea with the ladies, and marry the right man for her kingdom’s sake. Throughout the first book, Magic Casement, though she’s amusing and firm when she needs to be, I didn’t think of her as much more than a wall for Inos to practice her rebellion on. (That’s actually a compliment; Duncan is the one author I can think of who has managed to make me like his rebellious princess character).

Then the second, third, and fourth books show up, and Kade changes with them. Her firmness stands her in good stead in cases where Inos, unused to the challenges of diplomacy and politics, might crumple. And she has a sense of humor that grounds the series when it would otherwise take off into high-falutin’ fantasy. I’m still quite fond of her, and much fonder of her now in Casement than I was on first reading. All her qualities are there, some—like her familiarity with court manners—in plain sight, but Duncan takes his time developing them, and uses them in unexpected ways.

The non-fantasy example is Robert Audley of Lady Audley’s Secret by Mary Elizabeth Braddon, which is a Victorian novel of the type called “sensationalist fiction.” This was the popular literature of its day, because respectable people, of course, probably didn’t read novels at all, and certainly weren’t going to read the type of thing that has thunderstorms and secret passages and murder most foul in it. Robert is an extremely lazy man, something the omniscient narrator as well as he himself is happy to tell you—and then one of his friends gets in trouble. He doesn’t like it, he keeps displaying his reluctance to engage with the trouble even as he does it, but he manages, and displays an equally fascinating mixture of true change and rising to the occasion. Though the character development is probably clumsy in most modern terms, it has a lot to recommend it, and if you want to read it, it is online here. And, come on, it’s dedicated to Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton “in grateful acknowledgment of literary advice,” though, thankfully, much better-written than anything he managed. You know you want to read it. /pluggity-plug

3) Show them acting in perfect accordance with cultural mores that might be strange to a reader. This one works with villains, too, since villains tend to be the more alien characters in many fantasy novels. I am firmly of the opinion that an author can make me understand why someone is doing something, make me feel empathy, and yet leave me rooting for the villain to die. So it works.

Admittedly, the best fascinations are those that intrigue the reader at first, then sink into her blood and become so much a part of the world she’s reading that she doesn’t notice them. I blinked quite a bit when I first read The Phoenix Guards, because Brust’s Dragaerans are killing each other left and right, and no one seems to feel much sorrow at those deaths, at least if they’re enemy deaths. Yet I excused that as being part of the Dumas pastiche, and kept reading. By the time I got to Five Hundred Years After, Dragaerans would not have been Dragaerans if they didn’t kill people left and right and not feel much sorrow at enemy deaths. They’re non-human, too, so that adds to the sense of alienness. And they still feel sorrow at the deaths of friends, so it isn’t impossible to empathize with them.

This is a delicate, dangerous game to play, probably because it might not seem all that delicate on the surface; an author can crudely remind the reader over and over of how harsh or alien this culture is, just by introducing that one (usually inexplicable) character with modern Western morals who stands in the middle of the carnage or sex or strange religious ritual and is sickened. But a viewpoint character who’s only following his conscience is a better bet. The author doesn’t need to apologize then. She can channel the strangeness through the character and the narration. This may lose her some readers, but the ones who stay may contract a bad case of fascination.

4) Characterize in ways other than through words or interior monologue. I’m used to fantasy characters who have long conversations about their feelings—usually towards the end of the book, after denying those feelings quite vehemently in the previous few hundred—and then think about those feelings. Or they spend pages being introspective. Or they note that their behavior is different from what it used to be, and wonder if that’s a sign of change. When that works, it produces complex, fascinating people. When it doesn’t work, it is tedium.

It can be tedium even when the author is good at introspection and conversations about feelings, though, if that’s all he ever does. If the character has no gestures, facial expressions, sudden physical reactions to events, enigmatic visions, flashes of insight, or impulsive actions, then he’s too transparent. No reaction is complete without a tacked-on explanation. There are no shadows in his soul.

Though I have some criticisms about The Edged City, the book I just finished (and will be posting a review of tomorrow), I deeply appreciated that one character, Beth, is left mostly enigmatic. We see what she does. We see the art she makes. We see the reactions she causes in the people around her. We get thoughts on her from the “hero,” Gwynn, and on his relationship with her. But Gwynn isn’t that introspective, and usually winds up shrugging and admitting that several things about her might be true, and then not thinking about it again for pages. That makes what ultimately happens to Beth much more satisfying than it would have been if Bishop had tacked up every bit of her in photographs wrapped up inside transparencies surrounded by newspapers with screaming headlines.

“Fascinating” can mean mysterious in the sense of several possible explanations, rather than nothing to grasp hold of. Try other methods of characterization and see what happens.

5) Stir in some ordinariness. One of the things I find fascinating about fantasy as a genre, though not always in a good sense, is how often it builds up a façade of ordinariness and then tears it down. The peasant hero is not really a peasant hero, but the long-lost royal heir. The heroine of the urban fantasy is hired to reupholster the chairs in the eccentric old man’s house, and it turns out he really hired her because his windows start glowing when she walks by. The bard makes normal music until he gets in trouble, at which point he’s a spellsinger. The king has a hunting accident in the most obvious of ways, but then it turns out he was murdered. (There aren’t that many ordinary deaths, especially of key figures, in fantasy. There cannot be! It is impossible!)

Yet while these are, if done right, cool and surprising and helpful to the plot, they lose the original fascination they had, that ordinariness. “Everyday” turns into a synonym for “humdrum.” The author apparently forgets that it may also mean “homey” and “comfortable.”

One thing I love about George R. R. Martin’s series, along with the brutality and the grayness and the character transformation and the growing magic and the beauty and the pageantry and the half a hundred other things that I can’t list for you because then this rant would turn into a Martin screed, is how his characters, grand and mighty as they are, do have that ordinariness at the heart of them. Jon Snow gets shown as Someone of Importance right away. There are at least three different theories current in the series about his parentage, and Martin apparently plans to introduce a fourth. He has an albino direwolf, while his brothers and sisters have ones of more ordinary colors, and he’s quite good with a sword in comparison to the other boys among whom he finds himself, and he stands up to enemies who should overpower him, and so on. But at the same time, he’s extremely unromantic—here’s one fantasy teenager who doesn’t take his introduction to fantastic creatures with grace, but with unease—and often suspects that he has no idea what the hell he’s doing. He’s also extremely oversensitive about being a bastard, and other people frequently mock him for it. Growing some good qualities doesn’t miraculously transform his relationships with everyone else into ones of grace and glory. He has a long way to go as far as that’s concerned.

Probably an even better example is Daenerys Targaryen, Dany’s an exiled princess (check), has an almost inhuman beauty (check), is abused by her only surviving family (check), is being forced into an arranged marriage with a much older man when we meet her (check), goes through blood and pain (check), and is obviously going to achieve Great Things (check). But she also suffers pain from riding, struggles to learn her new husband’s language, has to go through with duties that she finds disgusting and distasteful, gets dirty, gets tired, likes hot baths, and realizes that her dreams about “home,” which she’s never really known, are vague and wistful. There’s no check for that. Dany’s not just another princess, because Martin doesn’t exaggerate every facet of her life. Nor does he tie everything back to her being royal and beautiful and destined. He gives her what makes her her, small as well as large.



And that appears to be quite enough chatter on the subject.




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[info]alegwyni
2005-03-23 03:19 am UTC (link)
Gotta agree with point 4.

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:21 am UTC (link)
It's in there, admittedly, for personal reasons, since at the moment I'm writing a character so tamped-down that he needs gestural characterization almost exclusively. But I do wish that fantasy authors in general would do more than interior monologue to get across what the character's feeling.

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[info]melarin
2005-03-23 07:32 am UTC (link)
this is someone who has layers

Like Ogres. Shrek is groovy [/fangirl squeal]

I'm with you on the loving-to-hate the villain thing. If I can understand, if not condone, why a villain does the things he does, then it does make me more hooked into the story.

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[info]chiyo_no_saru
2005-03-23 01:52 pm UTC (link)
Wait, so fascinating characters smell funny and make you cry? [/donkey]

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:24 am UTC (link)
The villain can really be the repository of ordinariness. All the villains I've hated most have done things for, at bottom, understandable, human motivations- wanting a comfortable life or a good life for their children, say. It just gets way out of hand.

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[info]rom65536
2005-03-23 08:29 am UTC (link)
I've always wanted to see a story - be it fantasy or sci-fi, or even a modern murder mystery - told from the villain's viewpoint that wasn't a comedy.

the only book I've ever read that was remotely close was Artemis Fowl by Iain Colfer (spelling on that? not sure...)

Sure, it's easily blasted as a "Harry Potter knock-off"....and was aimed at children...but I liked it. The main character is by no means a "good guy"...and definitely falls short of the term "hero" too.

I just wonder what the Lord of the Rings would have looked like from Sauron's standpoint. Frodo would be a whining little thief and Aragorn a wishy-washy moron that can't make up his mind whether to swagger or complain...gandalf a meddlesome upstart trying to ruin everything Sauron has worked so long for. And above all, Sauron just wants his ring back, dammit!

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[info]starfishofelves
2005-03-23 02:04 pm UTC (link)
I just wonder what the Lord of the Rings would have looked like from Sauron's standpoint. Frodo would be a whining little thief and Aragorn a wishy-washy moron that can't make up his mind whether to swagger or complain...gandalf a meddlesome upstart trying to ruin everything Sauron has worked so long for. And above all, Sauron just wants his ring back, dammit!

<3 XD

Awesome. Someone needs to write a fic along those lines.

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Told from the villians pov
[info]renakuzar
2005-03-23 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Check out Grendal by John Gardner. Should do the trick nicely.

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:27 am UTC (link)
I'm planning a few such stories.

The summary you gave shows part of the problem, though. We tend to be so ingrained in thinking of heroes as, well, heroes- right and noble and brave and all that- that anyone who goes against that must be Wrong. They can be your typical sneering-villain Wrong, or they can be humorously Wrong. But it's hard to imagine someone writing a serious fic where Sauron saw Aragorn as Wrong. It's easier to imagine someone writing Sauron seeing Aragorn as a pompous idiot, and to laugh at it, because of course the Aragorn in that fic wouldn't be canonical Aragorn.

I think this kind of thing would work better when both hero and villain were more ordinary, rather than Dark Lord and hero.

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[info]rom65536
2005-03-24 08:45 am UTC (link)
It could be easily argued that Aragorn in LOTR was very naive and misguided - and that he didn't fully comprehend what Sauron was attempting to do.

That wouldn't make Sauron any less "evil" or Aragorn any less "good", but would allow the reader to stomach the bad things Sauron did long enough to finish the book...

In such a situation, you could even show Sauron sadly resigned to fighting against Aragorn, someone who under other circumstances he might find as a friend.

But yeah - it won't work as a "Faceless Dark Lord vs. The Forces of Good(tm)" without being a comedy (which could be unbelievably funny, though)...

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[info]wanderingbhikkh
2005-03-30 01:14 am UTC (link)
That's why I believe more in 'antagonist v. protagonist' than 'villain v. hero'...and why my book just has the main character as the good girl just because she happened to win.

Or, rather, her daughter made very sure people KNEW she happened to win. On pain of death.

My characters scare me.

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[info]the_s_guy
2005-03-23 10:39 am UTC (link)
“intelligent green eyes”

"My left eyeball graduated from MIT and my right eyeball is in Mensa! And my spleen works at NASA!"

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[info]saadiira
2005-03-23 03:30 pm UTC (link)

“intelligent green eyes”

"My left eyeball graduated from MIT and my right eyeball is in Mensa! And my spleen works at NASA!"



*ROFL!*

Thank you. That is my pick for line of the day!

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:28 am UTC (link)
*snicker* Which shows the problem, of course. Eyes can't be smart. But in the case of the book that phrase came out of (Sara Douglass's Wayfarer Redemption), they were the smartest things about the heroine.

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[info]duckmole86
2005-03-26 08:46 am UTC (link)
Smart as in "dang, that smarts"? In which case the heroine does, indeed smart... although she isn't smart.

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[info]chiyo_no_saru
2005-03-23 01:51 pm UTC (link)
Question about #3 - one of my cultures has very, very few taboos about sex; incest, homosexuality, polygamy (not just polygyny!) - just about anything is welcome, so long as it's consensual. The parent figure [they don't put much weight in blood, as its not a monogamous culture. The main character from that culture has no idea who his father is - it's either Manelin or Amir (brothers), and he doesn't much care either way.] often essentially teaches the child about sex and such in a most hands on (bad choice of words) way.

As such, the kids from this very sexually freeculture at the school in WesternishCountry (I know, I know, awful name, I'm working on it) often have sex with each other, because it's just something you do with people you care about and are close. Obviously, a lot fo the other students are going "Loralay! What are they about!" (Loralay = contraction of Lord and Lady, sort of equivalent to "Geez!").

My question is: how can I portray it without, well, squicking the reader (It's not as if I have passionate love scenes between parent and child, but...) and giving them the disapproving outsider reaction?

And, now, a totally different question - am I being far, far too picky when I avoid using the word "sodomite" in dialogue as that world has no Bible or even Sodom and thus would have no reason whatsoever to call homosexuals Sodomites? Or am I just being thorough?

(And I know I'm being way too picky when I start pondering whether pi is the same value on this world, and whether I can say they know the area of the circular location when technically they don't have the mathemeticians we had who calculated pi...)

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In which I show I know far too much about math and physics
[info]beccastareyes
2005-03-23 02:58 pm UTC (link)
(And I know I'm being way too picky when I start pondering whether pi is the same value on this world, and whether I can say they know the area of the circular location when technically they don't have the mathemeticians we had who calculated pi...)

Interesting fact -- there are places in our universe where the circumerefece divided by the diameter doens't equal 3.14... The Earth's orbit (even if you ignore the fact it isn't quite a circle) for one -- the warp that the Sun's mass makes at the center makes the diameter slightly larger that the circumference divided by 3.14... . It's worse around denser objects than the Sun (like 'stellar reminants' -- things like white dwarfs, neutron stars and black holes that are what stars become when they die) -- one could argue that around a black hole, pi=infinity.

Most ancients knew that the area of a circle was more or less 3 times the radius squared and the circumference was about 6 times the radius. That's just observation. You need calculus to move beyond crude estimates of pi.

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Re: In which I show I know far too much about math and physics
[info]beccastareyes
2005-03-23 03:01 pm UTC (link)
ETA: Though any noticable-to-anyone-besides-geeks deviation of pi means that space is probably curved on levels that would matter to everyday life (heck, the 'shape of space' thing was one of the major pieces of the 'what will happen in our universe in the far future' debate among cosmologitss, and all of them admitted we lived in an extrodinarily flat universe)

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Re: In which I show I know far too much about math and physics
[info]chiyo_no_saru
2005-03-23 03:07 pm UTC (link)
...huh. So one could say that pi varies, even slightly, with regards to density?

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Re: In which I show I know far too much about math and physics
[info]beccastareyes
2005-03-23 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Kind of. Of course, the variations are so tiny they are inconsequential (we're talking hundreds or thousnads or more digits to the right of the decimal) until you get up to those stellar reminants I mentioned (a white dwarf is the mass of the Sun compacted into the radius of the Earth -- a neutron star isn't all that havier, but it's squeezed into something the size of a city or so -- the numbers usually thrown around is that a teaspoon of this stuff weighs as much as a mountain. Black holes are infinitly dense, though you can get a fake (finite, but very large) density if you define the size by the point where light can't escape)

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:35 am UTC (link)
I think the best guide for this culture is your own sense, mingled with the character's. If you're putting scenes in just for shock value, I'd tone them down. If they're scenes you're embarrassed about writing, get rid of them. If they're scenes that you think might shock the audience, but fit the characters and are right for you to write, then include them. Erring on the side of understatement usually isn't a bad idea if you really aren't sure. I haven't found many books out-and-out offensive, but I do roll my eyes when I think the author is trying to shock me with how daring and edgy she is.

I don't think you need to avoid "sodomite" just because it came from a Biblical word. 60% of our words are Latin-derived, directly or through French, and a good portion of the rest come from languages and influences that aren't going to exist in your world, either. Just be careful of really modern terms like "psychobabble," unless the culture is modeled on our own modern one.

If it sounds wrong to you, cut it out.

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[info]chiyo_no_saru
2005-03-24 04:12 am UTC (link)
Heh, thanks. Helps to have another person's view. :-) Much appreciated.

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[info]farmercuerden
2005-03-24 06:32 am UTC (link)
Mind ye, it has negative connotations you might not want.

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[info]marumae
2005-03-23 03:23 pm UTC (link)
It's so hard creating fascinating characters to me, I mean the first instinct is to give them something supernatural about them to make them fascintating right? It seems like common logic to think the reader would be immediately fascinated by the "violet eyed pesant girl with magical powerrrz". But you've pointed out in this rant that sometimes it's not always the extrodinary which makes a great character. It's the Jon Snow's of the books that keep us coming back. I'm not a fan of Daeny at all, so I don't necessairly agree on her being that fascniating but, with Jon I agree. I think I may just have to print this out and use it with regularity during my writing.

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:37 am UTC (link)
Well, I think part of my fascination with Dany comes from liking her, but she's damn intriguing, and I can't wait to see what will happen to her. I count that differently from, say, Cersei, whom I just want to die.

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[info]marumae
2005-03-24 02:48 pm UTC (link)
Ohhh yes, Cersei is someone I want to hang over a pit of spikes after I leave her in a plastic bag filled with rabid weasels. I definitely agree with you on that. While I'm not a fan of Dany I understand she's quite a popular character, while I personally do not like her for the reasons below.

I liked Dany at first, and genuinely felt sorry for her after *highlight for spoiler* her husband died. When it became painfully clear she really did love him. That broke my heart*End Spoiler*. Honestly all those traits you listed as cliche are what get to me, that and perhaps to me anyway just underneath the surface of her I find this blidning naiiveness that just drives me INSANE. Perhaps it's the fact that she works so hard to restore her family to the throne, while never really knowing just how insane her Father really was. I can't hate her for not knowing something. But that doesn't stop my emotions for going their own damn route anyway. Even when I think she might get some kind of insight into how he was and perhaps that there might have been a reason why the people rebelled against her family, she shoves it away in favor of blindlly beliveing the old princess of addage of "my perfect family was removed from the throne, I must avenge them!". I half understand that, honestly, after what happened with her husband and her brother, finding those three dragons and raising them. They're all she's got and so is that belief...still...

Wow, it's been so long since I've talked to someone about these books. Just wanted to thank you for indulging me. *grins* A Feast of Crows can't get here soon enough...

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[info]saadiira
2005-03-23 03:40 pm UTC (link)
I Like this rant. I like it a great deal.

I'd love to see the ordinariness taken a step further, even.

A character can be completely ordinary, after all, and accomplish great things. Like, Sam from LOTR. About the only outstanding qualities the guy really had were degree of loyalty, and decency.

Give the very ordinary person-character a situation of great peril, great upheaval, some huge challenge, something! Then, see what happens. If the cirucumstances are interesting enough, it actually seems to highlight it. It also can let the reader identify better with the character.

Hey, he's just a guy! Or she's just some chick, but look what they managed? Then, make it believable. Doing the heroic is all the more heroic, after all, when someone doesn't have magic, or skill with a sword, or anything else, really, save perhaps for a bit of common sense, motivation (Admittedly, very important here), a few good ideas when the time really comes to need them, and maybe even a bit of luck.

Real life stories of wars and such are full of people like this, and I've always found them fascinating.

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[info]triad_serpent
2007-02-22 09:04 am UTC (link)
*pets Sam* He and Strider (before he takes up the crown) are my favourite characters, without a doubt. ^^

In my WiP I have one of the most influential characters have very limited magical ability (he can see it, but can't work it, while it's usually the reverse for everyone else, or both abilities at once). And what's more, I love writing this character. Mind you, he is (or at least started out as) a secondary character, but still....what he says and does influences the other characters more than anyone else.

...another "ordinary" character I loved writing just died...less influential, but still one of my favourites out of the cast. *le sigh* And yet another is about to. Damn climaxes.... I'm about five and a half chapters from the end of the first draft, and people are starting to die faster...half the time, I don't even see their deaths coming!

...is that bad...?

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[info]jennifer_dunne
2005-03-23 03:45 pm UTC (link)
Great list! (As I'm thinking of my dearest-to-the-heart hero and muttering to myself, yes, yes, got that one, and that...)

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:37 am UTC (link)
Thanks! (Good luck with your hero. I think the world needs more characters who can answer all these criteria).

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[info]tingere
2005-03-23 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Hi, I've been reading (and enjoying) your rants for quite a while now and, as usual, I agree completely. As I just got myself a lj account, I am friending and I will probably want to be added to some of your writing journals as well in the future, if that's all right with you.

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 03:37 am UTC (link)
Hello. Glad you're enjoying them. And thanks for letting me know you're friending.

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[info]damien_winter
2005-03-24 04:43 am UTC (link)
It also should prevent the problem that shows up when people decide to declare that their character has “intelligent green eyes” and then have the character act like an idiot. Intelligence, courage, ambition, wit, skill, endurance, patience, and so on have to be shown, not told. One sentence on her intelligence does not stack up against 100 pages of the character being an airhead.

Or it could be that the eyes, and only the eyes are intelligent.

You know, I've just got a new idea for a horror film.

That makes what ultimately happens to Beth much more satisfying than it would have been if Bishop had tacked up every bit of her in photographs wrapped up inside transparencies surrounded by newspapers with screaming headlines.

And now, thanks to this wonderful teaser, I'm going to have to go scrape up money and find this book. Why, why must you recommend these books so well? Why?

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[info]limyaael
2005-03-24 05:05 am UTC (link)
Well, I just posted a review of it, so you might want to look at that before you decide if you want to buy it.

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[info]elena_takami
2005-04-01 11:32 pm UTC (link)
So is it reasonable to write about an 'evil' immortal overlord guy who's just spreading rumours so he can die? Because he's insanely bored of being alive, but can't commit suicide because he's cursed? His fiancee, who is actually evil but looks cute and innocent and is called Kitten? The hero is dumb as a brick, and convinced of his own heroic-ness. The villagers are really poor actors and he still believes em. The Heroine is called John because her father wanted a boy, spammit, but she really actually likes dresses and embroidery.

I wondered where you went after Fictionpress.. I was quite enjoying all the stories.

Is it ok to friend you?

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[info]asciiskull
2005-04-05 01:00 pm UTC (link)
I can't get the image of the rasta eyeballs from the movie Freaks outta my head now...

I like the idea of having a personality entirely described by looks, from the intelligent green eyes to the sensitive mouth to the precise fingers, and then destroying it the moment the character opens her mouth to say "Daaah, You are stupid!", and then clumsily knock something over...

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[info]inanna3
2005-05-17 11:27 am UTC (link)
Just a quick one, Limyaael, to thank you for your guidance. I am under no illusions as to my inadequacies as a writer, but you have helped me understand some of them - ref. cliches, intelligent green eyes, pernicious flashbacks and all. There are amazing differences between my flashback-heavy, overly mysterious 03 nano and my still-not-great but better 04, and I think you may have had a lot to do with that.

I'd friend you if I knew how... I'll figure it out, very new to this livejournal thingy, heh.

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