ianmcdonald ([info]ianmcdonald) wrote,
@ 2005-06-07 18:38:00
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Method/No Method
In response to a couple of queries about writing processes. Enid trained as an actor, so it's interesting to compare the two processes, because I feel they are very similar, though focused in different directions --from the page to the world, from the world to the page. The process of identification and personalisation are pretty similar (though some actors I know get very caught up the sacerdotalism of their trade: they are the personification and incarnation of The Word (Made Flesh) and can talk almost as much bollocks about it as writers can. Neither can we claim immunity to the 'look at me!' thing either --we just have nicely smelling pages to hide behind.

I'm rambling about acting because a couple of Enid's mates espouse 'The Method', which causes me to raise a philosophical eyebrow --it sounds very Brechtian --all we see is The Method/The Message acting itself out. For me, actors and writers evolve their own methods --and for me, it's evolved over the years and is never the same for any two books. I'd like to think I try to practise Miyamoto Musashi's 'Method/No Method' school of swordfighting in the Book of Five Rings. I don't want to have one way of writing that I rely on --I wouldn't trust it, and much less would I trust myself.

But there are certain states of mind I need to get into to embark on a big book --and in this way it's like The Method. I do need to get a clear angle on the characters, their families, their friends, their histories, the way they dress, the way they talk and react and feel, and especially what their inner contradictions are. It's an old screen-writers trick I picked up years ago, but it's a handy shorthand --a character type and a contradictory adjective. So Mr Nandha from River of Gods is a Prissy Bladerunner. Vishram is a Horn-bag Businessman... and so it goes.

I'll collect names as well --currently mining every Brazilian name I can find. I'm a bit particular about trying to get names right --I was certainly made conscious of this in River of Gods, and I can identify names from all States of India. I've no doubt that our uber-cool Japanese names sound as odd in Japan as Engrish

http://www.engrish.com/

sounds to us.

I'll spend a year or so collecting this information to build a kind of cognosphere of wherever I'm writing about --one of the first things I try to get is the music (thanks for the baile MP3 --my CD arrived today). I reckon everyone writes to an inner soundtrack, certainly it's one of the simplest hooks to pile memories and associations onto. Moods too -when I was writing the death of Aj in RoG, it was Godpseed You! Black Emperor's Motherfucker/Redeemer at house-shaking volumes, over and over. At this stage it's absorb absorb absorb --I never use 90% of my research, but you have to lay the groundwork of the mundane (that word again) so I know where the freaky fits onto everyday life. Do I generally write to music? Only if it's something you can ignore when you need to. Nothing wordy. Radio is of the devil. Why do they think we want to hear them talking?

I find putting words on a page so traumatic and difficult I do whatever it takes to make it simple, so story development goes through three stages:

1: Strategic/outline view. I sell a book on an outline, so it has to be detailed enough for me to know what the big story is, and also give a sense of how it's going to read and feel. This is the masterplan --though the finished product invariably ends up different. You never write the book you want. It's always different, and when you finish, that beautiful book you planned? You can't remember a word of it. It's at this stage that I get the 'voice' for the book --how it will be told: RoG through the prsimatic viewpoints of ten characters, like the parable of the blind men and the elephant. 'Brasyl' through three different timelines and the whole idea of parallel indentities and lives.

2: Storyline structural: sequence by sequence breakdown of what happens to the main character(s): yet again, I don't want to have to be thinking about 'what happens next' while I'm trying to write. Everything changes again at this level --characters come in, sub-sequences emerge, little 'what about' ideas. Tense (present, past) and individual character voices come at this stage. How they talk about themselves and theor worlds.

3: Nano-scale: outlines and ideas and phrases I'm going to use in what I'm writing today. These can be on paper, or onscreen as little notes-to-self, most of which end up totally different by the time the lines of marching letters catch up with them. They're like little landmarks in the story --not quite 'Oh, there's a mightly plot-headland' , more, 'there's the wee corner shop'.

Basically, whatever helps me concentrate on what words I'm putting on a page (rather than plot or character or twists or turns), works for me. I'm alwasy aware that words are not precious --that combination that went down on that page in that order were whatever happened at that time. Another time, another place, they would have been different. No better, no worse. So I'm not too bad about killing my darlings. Revising --MS Word seems to have abolished the whole tradition of draft/redraft --I constantly twiddle and tinker --especially at the front end, as the book evolves. Having said all that, it is an organic, growing process: buds and fruits burst out all over the place, at all stages of structuring.

I like to get the first line and last line of a book and story sorted before I begin --still haven't got a closing shot for 'Brasyl' --in RoG it was obvious it had to be the river, closing the loop.

That's my Method/No Method --it's been different for every book so far and I expect it will change and evolve again. That do ye? Not too damn luvvie, I hope, mwah mwah




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[info]rparvaaz
2005-06-07 07:19 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. :)

You just helped me figure out something rather important.

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[info]nhw
2005-06-07 07:23 pm UTC (link)
On Indian names - is Rana a genuinely common name from the Varanasi area? I was wondering if you'd named the family in River of Gods after Diljit Rana (now of course Lord Rana) in commemoration of the massive contribution he has made to Belfast's restaurant and hotel scene. He is from the Punjab but it would have been a nice touch anyway.

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[info]ianmcdonald
2005-06-07 07:49 pm UTC (link)
common enough --it's also quite a common Nepali name too. Lord Diljit Rana indeed --very prominent on the Equality Commission.

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[info]susumu
2005-06-07 07:26 pm UTC (link)
http://boomselection.info/ could be a good source of music for you. The top item on there right now is mix called "i love baile funk". I was going to reccommend Diplo's Favela on Blast mix but their link doesn't seem to work. I've got it stashed away somewhere though...

If we're talking handy shorthands, then I decided to describe River of Gods to friends as "Bollywood Ghost in the Shell".

It's also interesting to read about writing technique - I'm just finishing writing my First Ever Book so it's been quite a learning process inventing my own as I go along.

Three topics in one comment. Shazam!

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[info]ianmcdonald
2005-06-07 07:52 pm UTC (link)
good luck with the book --like I say, everyone do it different... interesting music site, I shall take some time to explore it.

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[info]susumu
2005-06-15 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Here's a working link to Favela on Blast (bottom of the left column): http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/miadiplo_arularet2005.html

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(Anonymous)
2005-06-14 12:32 am UTC (link)
There's huge amounts of baile funk available on the web at http://evil-wire.org/~ampere/mp3/funky/ . Boom Selection's more of a bootleg/mashup weblog, although those folks are paying lots of attention to baile funk nowadays.

Jesse (no Livejournal account, sorrry)

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[info]susumu
2005-06-14 10:38 am UTC (link)
http://evil-wire.org/~ampere/mp3/funky/hip_hop_cultura_de_rua/index.html

Track 12 is like baile funk hip house! Astonishing stuff :)

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[info]jackwilliambell
2005-06-07 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Cool! Someone else has actually read Musashi's 'Book of Five Rings'. I was beginning to think I was the only one.

Where is my copy anyway? I am due for a re-read. I think I will team it up with 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' this time. Last time I read it with 'The Art of War', but they really seemed to be going different directions.

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[info]etherealfionna
2005-06-07 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I feel they are very similar, though focused in different directions --from the page to the world, from the world to the page.

It's interesting that you say this. I've managed to upset several writers in my time when talking about acting (for the record, I can be classed as a semi-trained, talented and experienced amateur). Because in acting I've found that the words on the page are the least important part, because there are limitless ways that these can be used. The real trick is to use the words on the page in a way that is convincing to the audience, and that also gels with how the other actors are using their words.

An English lecturer I knew once said to me that there was a reason for the term playwright as opposed to playwrite, and it has stayed with me. Very bland and flat language can be used in a script, although it will probably be adapted by the actors, but the movement of plot, set, characters on and off stage is the real skill needed.

Anyway, I blather. Thanks for a really interesting entry.

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[info]ianmcdonald
2005-06-07 09:06 pm UTC (link)
I've done a bit of improv in my time, so I know what you mean in this, but then again, it is Shakespeare judges you, not you Shakespeare...

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[info]etherealfionna
2005-06-09 07:26 am UTC (link)
Hm, I think Shakespeare perfectly illustrates what I was trying to say - delivered badly the words are meaningless.

Instead, I'd point to one of the Alans, Bennett or Ayckbourne, as an exception. Mainstays of amateur theatre for a good reason.

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[info]ianmcdonald
2005-06-09 02:21 pm UTC (link)
touche: how did your reading slam go?

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[info]etherealfionna
2005-06-09 02:25 pm UTC (link)
I don't want to talk about it.

I'm sure next week will be much better.

It isn't really a slam, either, though there are similarities. Main differences are that there is no judging, a lot less shouting, and it is cohesive and rehearsed whole. I've never found a better term for it than "performance", to be honest.

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[info]cogitationitis
2005-06-07 09:33 pm UTC (link)
As for Brazilian names, my neighbors are from there, and their names are Aniceli & Eberson. Ani is from the south, where the weather is more temperate; Eberson's from the more tropical north/central region. The Boston area has a large Brazilian population, and several Brazilian newspapers.

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[info]nnaloh
2005-06-07 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! I'm going to need to re-read that post a few times to absorb it. For the record, not everyone writes to a soundtrack. I absolutely can't concentrate on something else if there is any speech or patterned sounds (i.e. music) happening around me. -nalo

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[info]ianmcdonald
2005-06-07 09:48 pm UTC (link)
sometimes music is great, other times a complete distraction... it really depends on how I feel when I try to write something... as you no doubt know from bitter experience.

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[info]_hypatia_
2005-06-07 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Its interesting to me that you describe the three steps in a design and development process. I'm in a totally different line of work from yours but could easily use those three steps as an outline. There will also be some modifications to step (2) as step (3) develops. Law of sod says clients will change requirements input to step (1)at a late stage and really screw things up :)

I'll spend a year or so collecting this information [..] I reckon everyone writes to an inner soundtrack, certainly it's one of the simplest hooks to pile memories and associations onto. Moods too

I think this appreciation of background and the wider perspective is of general value in life the universe etc and often under appreciated - the ability to see both the wood and the trees. Often I only realise this with hindsight, I simply have always found the 'unnecessary background' interesting anyway. I know for a fact that one of the reasons I get repeat requests to perform what is a purely technical role for companies is because I'm interested also in understanding the background and functionality even though I don't strictly 'need to know' it. Coincidentally I also have internal soundtracks to my projects depending on their scale and scope and nature - I hadn't really considered that in itself until you mentioned it.


Do I generally write to music? Only if it's something you can ignore when you need to. Nothing wordy. Radio is of the devil. Why do they think we want to hear them talking?

I work independently a lot of the time and so unless I'm working alongside other people I always have sounds. Mostly this will be music but yes, it has to be something I can tune out when necessary. I also have R4 on at times, partly because occasionally I just love the weird things it throws out but also I find it very easy to tune out the words when concentrating. If I'm working on something which needs a mix of semi attention and deep attention then I'm most likely to put on speech radio. If I'm listening to music I like - yes I can tune it out well enough but get irrationally irritated with myself for so doing. I've never tried working to talking books, not sure if that would be a problem. I suspect its related to the 'whinge filters' I collected from the post natal visitor - I've always been able to follow more than one line at once but it definitely sharpened up post offspring.
I tend to have 'middle ranking' music on mostly for work. Whether or not music, radio, the dusk sparkling in the sunshine is a distraction has more to do with my state of mind than the object.

I do find that whilst I'm quite happy working alone its easy to develop bad work habits. I'm a very disciplined worker normally (I had to be post offspring - it was a survival strategy in my line of work) but there are definitely times where I know I'm weaker and more prone to distraction than others.

My tax returns are generally done to a funereal silence :)




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