planning the next great escape [Wanderlust]

It's official: M and I will be in Japan between 7/2 and 7/18/08. Flying into Tokyo, flying out of Osaka, figure we'll spend at least a few days each in Tokyo and Kyoto, with some day-trips elsewhere as warranted.

We're doing the usual devouring of guidebooks now, but presumably my brilliant and well-travelled friends will have some opinions about stuff we shouldn't miss. This is your open invitation: what should we see and do?

Recommendations for accommodations in Tokyo especially solicited. Introduction to local friends who would be fun to meet even moreso.


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damn can't remember the name...

but there is a castle in Kyoto that if they have evening hours should not be missed. during the day it's very nice. Afterdark it's stunning.
I don't know anyone in Kyoto, but I know some seriously sweet peeps in Tokyo and Sapporo. Lemme see if I can look them up and put you in touch!

And OMG, you are in for some crazy good eating.



Edited at 2008-04-28 03:02 am (UTC)
We stayed at the Annex Katsutaro which was quite alright. It's important to stay at the Annex not the original, apparently (they seem to run their reservations separately). Staff speak enough English to get by, if your Japanese sucks. Concrete exterior, ryokan interior. Has free wired ethernet (I brought a DWL-G730 AP to plug into the wall to give two laptops unwired network) . Does breakfast (small fryup, perfectly OK). It's a few minutes' walk to a nearby station on the Yamanote line or (other direction) subway.
In Osaka the view from the top of the tall building on the side of the station (Osaka station not Shin-Osaka) which is called ACTY if I remember correctly, is very good. In particular you can both go up and walk around for free, and some of the restaurants have the good view while not being overpriced, like the Chinese up there. The Chinese there also has the latest-generation Neorest toilets, not to be missed :) After that view we didn't bother to go up the Umeda Sky Building.
In Osaka we stayed in the splendidly-named Hotel Kinki which suited us well. It has: coin-op wash/dry machines (bring your own laundry detergent, they claim the machine dispenses it but if so it is *quite* insufficient); a beer vending machine in the reception, as well as a microwave; convenience stores, bars, other shops all around; 100mbit ethernet in the wall; it's right in the centre of the entertainment district and about 3 mins walk from Osaka station; yet it's pretty quiet; rooms are rather larger than average for a business hotel; aircon in the room really did the job; staff English minimal but nice people. Also cheap. It would be my choice for a base in Osaka again.
You must spend some time in Kyoto train station and go up to the top. Plenty of places to eat in the upper levels too. Watch the sunset after touristing the city, then go home.
If you make it to Hiroshima the Mazda car factory is interesting, book a trip in advance (they do one tour a day in English).
The castle to see, if you see no other, is Himeji. Easy daytrip from Osaka. Also the gardens next to the castle are nice, separate entrance fee. The castle is huge.
Simon Cozens, if you know him, can be tempted to travel to Kyoto or maybe Osaka (or maybe even Tokyo) to meet up.
Damn. I'm going to be flying through Tokyo less than a week before that. You definitely want to read [info]moominmolly's travelogue from a few years ago.

Edited at 2008-04-27 10:42 pm (UTC)
The stuff I did is mostly chronicled in these posts (though I think the host that the photos were on is dead -- I should put them up somewhere else, or ask the guy if it'll ever be resurrected). But definitely hit Kagaya, in Tokyo, and the ryokan in Asakusa (Tokyo) that we stayed at was pretty great. Also, I *really* liked Miyajima, just for wandering.
Seconded on the ryokan in Asakusa, and thanks again for that recommendation, Molly. *)

Osaka is fun and full of great food (there's a saying that roughly translates to "In Tokyo you go broke buying clothes, in Osaka you go broke dining out"). My full notes of our time there are here, with restaurant recommendations etc.

Kyoto is just plain beautiful, especially on foot. We did the Philosopher's Walk and really enjoyed it, and it was very easy to pick out a random restaurant downtown and get a good dinner. Lots of cute little stores.
Actually, I have a specific question for you, since you took a lot of pictures: what kind of camera did you bring (ie: pocket-point&shoot or DSLR), and what was the general social/logistical hassle factor of taking photos in public places?

Also: did you bring a laptop, and if so did you feel comfortable leaving it in various hotel rooms?
I brought a D70 SLR and a tiny compact. The other half brought a compact.
As far as I can tell, the Japanese go touristing domestically exactly the same way they stereotypically go touristing abroad: in gaggles, all pointing their cameras at each other and everything.
I felt less like a tourist tool stopping to take photos of everything in Japan than anywhere else I've ever been. It's not only ubiquitous, as far as I can tell it's pretty much expected that people will take photos of everything. Modulo a slight reticence in temples, etc (people are just a bit more subtle), but I'm sure you can work out where to be more discreet.
I brought a laptop, I felt fine leaving it in hotel rooms, I just put it and other stuff in my bag, locked the bag, and put it in the back of the closet or similar.
I did exactly this, with the addendum that I actually never used the compact at all. *nod*
If you haven't met my lovely and talented ex-husband yet, you probably should. He's in Tokyo as we speak working for That Other Search Engine.
I believe I have, um, met your ex husband. It was all a little blurry at the time though. :)
I think Kyoto is much more interesting than Tokyo. We spent a little more than a week in Kyoto.

Get some good tea for yourselves! Try Ippodo Tea in Kyoto.

If you can make it work, try staying at a ryokan... there are quite a few in Kyoto. Some won't accept foreigners. We stayed at Hiiragiya Ryokan in Kyoto and it was amazing... the food was fantastic there, too... if you've never had a kaiseki meal, you should definitely try it... I've never found anywhere in the US that could compare.

There are also grades of Kobe beef in Japan that are never seen outside of the country.

If you can make the time, Koyasan is a mountain covered with Buddhist monasteries. It's a fantastic place... you can spend the whole day there... you can arrange to eat at one of the monasteries...

I'll try to remember more...
My standard recommendation is to do the Hakone loop.

I also really liked Kamakura.

In case you feel like reading my Japan travel diary entries: http://hammercock.livejournal.com/tag/japan

Some awesome things we saw in Japan: The Hiroshima Peace Park and Museum. The Studio Ghibli museum in Mitaka, outside of Tokyo. A sumo tournament. The Hakone area (Yunessun, Ashinoko, Tozan Ropeway, Owakudani). Todai-ji and overly-familiar deer in Nara. Shinsaibashi shopping district, okonomiyaki, and love hotels in Osaka. The Kiyomizu-dera temple complex in Kyoto (we didn't have nearly enough time in Kyoto, sadly).

Ryokan Asakusa Shigetsu in Asakusa, Tokyo, was good to us. Nice, clean, convenient to the Asakusa line, has onsen on upper floor.

I hope it's not as hot in July as it was in late August/early September. The heat and humidity were brutal, especially in Kyoto. Holy crap.
The temperatures in summer 2007 were 5C over average in Japan, from what I understand. Even the Japanese were feeling it was hot and walking around dripping gently. Hopefully it will not be so hot this year.
Overall, though, I intend to go back to Japan and I intend not to go there in June, July, or August.
Ghibli tickets should really be booked in advance, there are foreign agents for them but not many. There are special all-day tickets available for foreigners, rather than the timed-entry ones sold in Japan (to anyone, but timed-entry is less convenient).
If you are not picky about accommodations I highly recommend Uno House in Kyoto. I would describe it as a "flop house", it is cheap, was clean when I was there, no frills at all, hostel like and you meet great other travelers.
Lucky bastards!

I only know one person in japan and, not having spent that much time with him recently, I don't know if you'd have much fun with him. However, if you'd be willing to box him up and send him to me, I could get you his address ;)

Go to a maid bar and think of me! It may be my destiny to open one up out here.
Stop over in Himeji (on the way to Kyoto) and take a tour of the (restored) castle. And then check out the scale model made of bamboo.

If you do stay at a Ryokan and opt for the Japanese breakfast, note that you do not get any Coffee there. Scout out the location of the nearest café beforehand to avoid the whole hunting for a coffee and not finding it thing.

Odaiba has the most amazing kitsch - (a miniature Eiffel tower and a miniature Statue of Liberty). And so does Don Quijote - a discount retailer on Roppongi. And if you do go there - check out the roller coaster on the top of the building. And oh, walk into a 100Yen store and see how long you can last before you have to lol at something.

There's an antique samurai sword store near the Oriental Bazaar in Omotesando (near Harajuku) - and you need an export license (which takes up to two weeks) if you're going to buy an ancient katana.

And if you need kitchen knives - Kappabashi is the best place to buy them. Amazingly, that's the one item I've found that is cheaper in Japan.

Oh yeah, go check out a Love Hotel.
And the Beer Museum (there's one in Sapporo as well as Ebisu).

When I think of more stuff I'll let you know...

Tokyo

This guy has some opinions about what to do in Tokyo. And really, there is something to be said for taking his advice, given who he is.



Thinking a bit harder about my travels around Japan:


  • Harajuku some afternoon.

  • Tsukiji early some morning. I never got there for the 4am tuna auction, but it's supposed to be amazing. While there, do not skip Sushi For Breakfast at one of the small restaurants within the market. Just look for the longest lines

  • If you're in Osaka, Americamura is quite something, as is the view from the top of the tallest building in town

  • In Kyoto, one of the temples hosts a giant fleamarket a couple times a week where you can buy everything from Vintage Kimono to Snake Oil (Snakes included).

  • If anyone tries to get you to visit Meiji-mura in Nagoya, I'd probably recommend taking a pass. It's an important cultural heritage site where buildings from the Meiji era have been brought to preserve them. That sounded really amazing until I stepped back to think about the fact that "Meiji era == Victorian Japan". So, there's a Victorian Bank, a Victorian School, a Victorian Train Car and so on. Of course, there's also the lobby of a hotel designed by Frank Lloyd Wright which has been transported there. But there's so much other cool stuff to see in Japan.

  • If you're willing to go a bit farther afield, the most surreal thing I did in Japan (aside from Puroland) was probably staying here. Hotsprings. With snow monkeys.

  • And yes, if you go to Tokyo and don't go to Puroland, you'll probably lose all your indie cred.



Edited at 2008-04-29 01:40 pm (UTC)

A cheap place to stay in Kyoto

A friend and I stayed in a private room at http://www.kyotojp.com/cheaphostelkyoto.html for about a week. It's nothing special, but it is cheap, clean and reasonably centrally located.
A little late to the party, but here's where we stayed in Osaka and Tokyo ... both were hooked up by the local ex-pat Yank promoter who set up the tour, and I would stay at either again. Both were very nice Western-style hotels catering to native businessmen, and quite affordable (as in, around $80/night). Both have free high-speed internet. Not sure how much English they can handle at either to make a reservation, but it's worth a shot.

Osaka (located in the Shin-Osaka area, a couple blocks from the Nishinakajima-Minimigata subway station):

Sin-Osaka Sunny Stone Hotel
4-12-2, Nishinakajima, Yodogawa-ku, Osaka City
Ph. 06-6390-0001

Tokyo (located just outside the Ginza section, a couple blocks from the Ginza subway station):

Hotel Check Inn
3-10-10 Shimbashi, Minato-ku, Tokyo 105-0004
Ph. 03-3434-6000

I discovered the day *after* we left Tokyo that our hotel was two subway stops away from that famous fish market ... argh!!

*envy* ... I miss Japan, and would go back tomorrow if I had the chance. Looking forward to your trip reports and photos. :) Have fun!!
All of the things I did were from the guide books, but these are the ones that stand out as being really interesting experiences:

I found the fish market pretty remarkable...i forget the name of the district, but it's the fish market in tokyo. i have never ever seen so much tuna. $15 million worth of fish get auctioned/traded everyday there. and i had some of the best sushi i've ever had, after walking around there. but this is one of those 6 am type experiences...so it's best done like the first day you're there.

Shibuya was fun, lots of young people, and the street crossing at the major intersection was super duper crazy, particularly at night when everyone was out and about. Apparently, it's called "scramble crossing". I've never ever seen so many people crossing the street all at once. I also did a fair amount of shopping there :P

There is also a really nice hot springs bath house type place in the southern part of tokyo. I think it's southern? We had to take a train to get there, in addition to the subway. It was awesome. But only limited areas are coed. I spent 6 hours there, soaking in different tubs and eating.

I didn't have time, but I was wanting to check out the kabuki theatre in ginza.

In Reppongi, there are a couple towers, where you can get a really awesome view of the city. One is significantly more expensive than the other, iirc. I went to the pricier one, and ate dinner at the restaurant up there, which has absurdly small portions and a cover just to get in. But the drinks were fun and yummy.
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