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  • Mar. 30th, 2004 at 5:52 AM
Mile Zer0


When I was somethingteen, I lived in a rather preposterous neighborhood wherein all of the streets were named after flowers and all of the houses were pre-fab clones, divergent only in color. I had a friend on Petunia Drive, who I controlled by threatening to throw him into my closet, which I had convinced him was filled with tarantulas. I would leave him in my room and go out “to get some snacks,” and sneak a peak into the room via a small hole I had drilled in-between its thin wall and the back of the medicine cabinet.

He would stare at the closet in terror, never once getting the nerve to inspect for himself and see if my claims were true. I learned quickly that people in this neighborhood were gullible.

Their gullibility rained down in spades when they all started murmuring about “the Satanists”. From what I could piece together, one of them had been to a garage sale at a house in our vicinity with the street number 666. They had seen, on one of the tables, a Satanic Bible. Word of this spread for a bit and I eventually rode my bike around until I found the place. 666 Honeysuckle Court. There was a big, bearded guy in a Harley Davidson sweatshirt on a ladder in the front lawn, trimming evergreen trees into these funky upward truncating spirals.

I got his attention and asked if he had had a garage sale recently. He said yes and I asked him if there was a Satanic Bible at the sale.

He said there had been.

I asked if he had sold it. He said, “Are you a Satanist?”

“No, I don’t believe in Satan, but everyone here is afraid of it and that’s funny.”

He laughed. Then he explained that he had bought it specifically to put it out in his garage sale and freak the neighbors out, “It’s funny ‘cause of the house number, y’see.”

So, I knew that there was at least one actual human being in my neighborhood.

Now, what I should have done, is bought the book from him, written a cryptic clue in pig’s blood on its inside cover, left it somewhere that someone would find it and lead them on a wild goose-chase mystery scavenger hunt with clues hidden in ridiculous places all over town.

Luckily, however, my neighbors took care of the fun for me, as my friends began reporting that their parents were in therapy. Apparently, so distraught were they that they lived so near a Satanist, that they all needed counseling.

The stories started coming down the pipes, a la the telephone game of dark rituals and human sacrifice. “Blocked” memories started popping up. Really zany stuff, you know: Goat sex and blood-drenched gangbangs; that kinda thing. So odd that so many of them were “victims,” yet none of them felt the need to go to the actual litigation level. After all, didn’t we know that this guy lived at 666 Honeysuckle Court?

Of course, there was only one psychologist in town and he was - surprise, surprise - a devout Christian. He also bought a really nice new car that year. Praise Jesus.

Mind control is not all that difficult. It’s the art of slow-entry hypnosis and it can make people believe that they will purchase anything, approve of anything, hate anything, love anything, worship anything, remember anything and forget anything. Car salesmen do it. Books do it. Politicians do it. Parents do it. Priests do it.

Is it being done to you right now?

Comments

[info]xander_cane wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:08 am (UTC)
Nice ^_^ I always a source of amusement you are. It is obvious these people arn't very educated because if they were, they would know that satanists don't worship satan. The problem is he have these kids who try to be witchs and accidentally kill their little sister trying to "envoke the spirits" and it gets on the news. Those would be "devil worshippers" who worship a being thats orgin contains his ass being kicked by God. Devil must be oh so powerful then... XD
[info]city_of_dis wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:10 am (UTC)
I think he's God's jaded ex. ;)

M-A
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[info]sm0t wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:20 am (UTC)
I lived in an upper-middle class WASPy neighborhood when I was a kid. My neighbors were all educated doctors, lawyers, etc, yet some of the shit they said completely astounded me. Apparently, 'it was a shame' that the one Jewish family in the neighborhood was going to Hell, despite the fact that they were 'such nice people'. Also, when you die, whatever makes you happy is waiting for you in heaven, including Nintendos and Big Macs. Apparently, spirits in Heaven are fat, lazy slobs too.
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[info]scarletdemon wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:15 am (UTC)
My oldest son bought the Satanic Bible, I just laughed. He explained some of the "sense" in it to me...it sounded fairly innocuous. I must say Americans do seem to be terribly full of fear. Most English people would just say "Satanic Bible? *tsk* What kind of silly bugger would want that?".
[info]city_of_dis wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:19 am (UTC)
A good number of Americans are astoundingly paranoid. If you find the right church, all you need do is tell one of its members that a certain company is run by Satanists, and without doing any checking whatsoever, the whole church will soon be boycotting that company. It's cute, really.

M-A
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[info]ladyegreen wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:30 am (UTC)
Early yet, interesting dabble to wake up to. I actually have one friend on my friends list who claims to be a hypnotist and the few stories he's posted are quite intriguing. (Sadly he has fallen silent, for months now.)

The thing about hypnosis and indeed brainwashing, at least for adults, is they at some level must want it. I've tried to be hypnotized several times to no avail because on one level or another I'm not allowing.

Children are fabulous indicators of what will be. Some children are your child who wouldn't look in the closet and most times they will be the same as adults. Well on their way to paying for someone elses new car, or being trampled on by life. Then again you have my two, my son in particular, who were born with why? on their lips. James would not only have opened the closet he would have been pissed that there were no giant spiders, then he would have told on you for lying and wanted to know where you hid them, after which he would have trailed you to 666 Honeysuckle Court chattering away the entire time, prolly about if the Satanist kept giant spiders. Jasmine would have given you a lecture on the proper manner of how take care of spiders, a very long detailed lecture and she would have gone to get an adult to open the closet for her to see if they were being cared for in a manner she deemed acceptable. (Jasmine is on her way to being a zoologist or veternarian..she lives and breathes animals.)Any discussion of Satanists with her would have involved so does he have animals? Are they black? Ect.

Guess what kind of adults they are going to grow up to be?

L.

[info]city_of_dis wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:37 am (UTC)
I think I have read that only about 15-20% of people can be put into deep suggestion.

And I can definitely see what kind of adults those two are going to become: Methinks I know who to hire to do research for me in a few years ;)

M-A
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[info]ghazz wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 06:38 am (UTC)
mind manipulation and such
The thing about hypnosis and indeed brainwashing, at least for adults, is they at some level must want it.

The level of desire can be taught or manipulated. Say, I promise to give what desires you the most EXCEPT that you must follow this set of rules, beliefs, etc. During my escapade with the almighty corporation, the execs decide to implement a program that will ensure the company together singing in unison. Now, don't get me wrong, the idea of everyone acting, thinking, and parading as comrades or brothers and sisters is absolutely fantastic and is a wonderous business builder within the domestic affairs of a business, BUT a border was breached that created a discrepancy in their philosophy.(This is all speculation on my part, however, my exp extended 7 years with this company, not to mention my early years were drowned in the potential ramblings of my father who used me as a sounding board for corp politics) In order to wander in this new urban society, the employees need to be honest with the company. What employee would totally trust a corporation? The employee, in this culture, is analyzing what the company wants to hear. At any rate, the last straw for me is when the company was boasting the induction of the US Navy into this program. The question to myself is, "A military outfit is in need of what?"... Control. It seemed to me the company wanted to paint a profound picture to meet any employee's desire, then put them through "training" to develop them within the strains of their rules. Being my openminded self, and somewhat respectful of my supervisor, decided to attend the "mandatory" seminar. All the literature and information given to us at the time described the whole seminar, in my opinion. I left the hotel where the eight hour seminar was held, with a severe headache, drowsy, angry, and vengeful toward a company I once respected.

To end this rambling of sorts, the company was preaching to its employees, freedom of expression, brotherly/sisterly interaction, of course a bigger paycheck, and a significant advantage over our comptetitors...job stability. The seminar whispered a different philosophy, softly.(Mind-fuck your employees, exterminate those who do not follow, and ride them as far and as hard as they are capable) Most of the employees went with the program, establishing the majority. I expressed myself(fighting it for 2 to 3 years) eventually ending in my departure by upper management.

ghazz
Re: mind manipulation and such - [info]ladyegreen - Mar. 30th, 2004 09:52 am (UTC) Expand
[info]trentm wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:38 am (UTC)
Excellent post, as always.

But if Mind Control accounts for the people who are afraid of the tarantulas in your closet or the Satanists on Honeysuckle Court, where do the mind controllers fit in? We can recognize others who are being manipulated, but can we recognize when it's happening to us?

The psychologist in your anecdote makes a living controlling the minds of others, but then he is in turn controlled himself, as evident in his devout christianity and his purchase of a fancy new car. So perhaps there is not a simple parity - Those who control and those who are controlled. Maybe it's more like a food chain. Of course, if it's a food chain, who's at the top?

Obviously, I am. You can come hang out up here if you like, but don't try anything sneaky.
[info]city_of_dis wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 03:45 am (UTC)
Can we have twinkies and tea?

M-A
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[info]trentm wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 04:23 am (UTC)
Magicians do it in a hat.
Hm... Since today has been declared national TrentM self-indulgence day by me, I'm going to help myself to a second comment.

Re-reading your post, it occurs to me that working magic tricks for children, as I do, I'm doing a lot of this type of low-level mind control myself, for a living. When I work for adults, I structure my act around showing them several 'minor miracles' until they really are questioning whether I might be 'for real'. The fun part of the act comes when I show them the secrets at the end, and reality comes crashing down on them. When they walk away, the real magic that they remember is that I almost had them convinced. Later they won't remember the tricks at all, just that I had manipulated them so thoroughly.

When I work for kids though, I don't let them in on the secret. I let them continue believing in the magic; because where an adult can laugh at themselves for being so gullible, a child will only feel betrayed. Still though, the look on a child's face when he sees 'magic' in his hands is an absolute treasure.

So, am I no worse than the psychologist, manipulating people for fun and profit? Or are there times when through such manipulation, you can open someone's eyes and mind? In other words, is there inherent harm being done when you willingly let someone believe something that you know to be untrue, or does it depend on what they're being left to believe in?

And, can a case be made that in some cases - letting a child believe I can levitate, for example - I'm opening their mind to a new possibility without closing it to any others; where in cases such as Christianity people are manipulated to close their minds up, instead of open them? Or is it all the same?

Sorry to leave you with a bunch of questions and no answers, but since you inspired another instance of this cycle in my mind, I thought I'd share it.
[info]city_of_dis wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 04:33 am (UTC)
Re: Magicians do it in a hat.
I think intent and effect are important. There are beneficial and/or pleasant "mind games," and illusion-type magic is a perfect example. I think the line is drawn when one person decietfully profits from another's gullibility. Sure, you may charge for a magic show, but there is an understanding that those paying are paying to be tricked. They know that what you are doing is an illusion. This is not as disingenuous as saying, "This guy 2,000 years ago died, so give me some of your paycheck each week or you'll burn in Hell forever."

M-A
[info]le_natz wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 05:07 am (UTC)
ahhhh... yes....

homo sapiens... dummies...

ah well, i liked the Satanic Bible part... should get one of those...
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[info]faerlyn_darkelf wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 06:05 am (UTC)
Yes. I believe what people tell me. Hook me up with therapy.
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vermanatorx wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 06:53 am (UTC)
Holy crap after reading your entry I have a sudden urge to go sacrifice a virgin at an alter! Damn you and your mind control LJ entries...
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[info]golden_lotus wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 07:06 am (UTC)
i have a friend who used to go to the book stores at the mall and amuse herself by picking up books on satanism or witchcraft, pretending to read them, and as people stared at her (as they inevitably would--i live in illinois...)she would mutter something and wiggle her fingers mystically at them. They, being good little born agains, would turn white as a sheet and run away.

my question is... if their God is omnipotent, why are they always so damned afraid of 'satan'?!
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[info]trueandspurious wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 07:54 am (UTC)
Honeysuckle Court, I think that's in the 100 acre wood
That is unbelievable! All those parents going into therapy... but then again it is southern Ohio. I remember the way rumors spread about certain people in my old neighborhood, usually people who lived alone. (They don't have a wife and kids, there's something deeply wrong with them!) I wish we'd had a satanist though, or a guy who pretended to be one. And as for mind control, I guess it isn't that difficult. Sometimes I feel like everyone in my dorm is under the control of Mtv. I think I realized how prevalent mind control 'brainwashing', as I thought of it, when someone got me a Jello Biafra CD in high school and I unquestioningly believed everything he said and became an instant all out liberal. When I was looking through my closet trying to figure out which clothes were made in sweatshops that I needed to give away-that's when it hit me. I decided then that I should choose wisely the books I read, the cds I listen to, and the shows I watch, (control the controllers) and also reminded myself how important it was do do my own thinking and writing. I'd like to think I'm smart enough now not to let any satan fearing christians into my mind.
[info]deejaykala wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 08:53 am (UTC)
I totally agree with you. I use mind control on people all the time to get them to love something: me. Only I don't call it mind control, I call it Charm.
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[info]nightsashke wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 09:26 am (UTC)
oooooo! we had a whole group of satanists in our neighborhood growin up!! mom said so! of course we didn't know where they lived...just that they liked to kidknap small blonde haired, blue eyed children and sacrifice them to the horned beast of the underworld...

...surprisingly they only did this if you didn't walk on the sidewalk the whole way from elementary school....who knew?...maybe they were afraid of stepping on a crack and breaking their mother's back?

*shrug*
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[info]ladyegreen wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 10:07 am (UTC)
Such interesting comments
A little later in the day and more awake, I come back to read comments and as always the comments are almost as entertaining as the original post.

Things to think on, the Satanist bit and good Christians turning ghostly white and/or fleeing to a counciler. Maybe its because I live in the wrong part of the country, and I promise I'm not being sarcastic. In my neck of the woods in an upscale neighborhood he would have been shunned, perhaps talked about, but shunned. Period. No on goes to therapy because for the most part therapy down here is viewed as you being unstable and not quite up to parr... to boot the Christian ones, (in this I mean the extremist) would have prayed for your deliverance from the clutches of Satan but still no therapy or turning white because they quiet flatly would believe God would kick his ass.

In a bad neck of the woods? Hmmm...he wouldn't be liking life. It wouldn't be too shocking to find his windows shot out, his dog dead and big sign on the door that said DIE in foot tall letters. Then again this isn't Ohio, this is Southern Georgia, and us my Ohion husband often tells me this is a different world down here.

The example of the bad neck of the woods is an actual event that happened about ten years ago by the way.

L.
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[info]archanglrobriel wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 10:38 am (UTC)
We could've gotten into such trouble as children, were we every to end up in the same flower-themed neighborhood. {laugh} That tarantulas in the closet story is perfect. It's a lucky thing we didn't encounter one another, we might've started a cult for lack of anything more entertaining to do.
I say this because I got expelled from fifth grade along with my best friend at the time, for freaking out all the other fifth graders by deciding to become a warlock. My best friend Stephanie was saying she was my witch. The kids in our class became hysterical, our parents were called and we were expelled.
I had to go to remedial "Why Jesus is way cooler than Satan" classes at church and got into major trouble with everyone over it.
Nobody ever went in unto the mewling herd and said "Wow you guys are way too easily freaked, and that's troubling."

It's always the different folks who are cut from the herd and put aside for the sin of stampeding the stampedable. The scary part is how easy it is to do...

I was TEN and I managed to do it and I didn't even have to -try- all that hard. That really should frighten me more than it does.

But thanks for bringing that memory back to consciousness, I had almost forgotten about my "warlock" history. I wonder what my fellow "bad seed" is up to these days? BUAH HAHA HA!
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[info]dreamattack wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 10:38 am (UTC)
I think someone must be trying to control my mind -- someone tried to get me to join a "straight-edge" lj community today. not to dis straight-edgers, but there's not a lot of "straight" left in me, and I don't have many edges. Maybe I need to start a "curvy queer" community. wait, that's probably already been done. ;)


I bucked the mind-control polices (because there are more than one) from a very early age. A lot of parents didn't want their children playing with me because they seemed to "get strange ideas" after spending the afternoon playing deserted island with me. ;)
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[info]ludimagist wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 08:01 pm (UTC)
You know, I remember a book called Say You Love Satan making the rounds when I was a kid and causing all manner of scandal. It was a trash journalism account of problem kids and one of them going too far and killing another. By all accounts it was this orgy of satanic mystical bloodshed, but really, when I read it I thought the story was just very very sad.

I think I need a hug.

Oh, and a new car.
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[info]netsearcher wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 09:20 pm (UTC)
elf thought you might enjoy this... :)
Klingons for Christ.
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[info]pravoxian wrote:
Mar. 30th, 2004 10:37 pm (UTC)
Americans are funny...But I think its more of a mob mentality than hypnotism that caused the Satanic Bible incident..

I can actually imagine a group of white people rushing around a white neighbourhood carrying pitchforks and torches...Like a cartoon~