I find it hilarious that when one is an atheist and, in writing and conversation, treats the Christian story the same way that they treat any myth, they are subject to assaults to the effect of “Stop mocking people’s beliefs! Just because someone doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean you have the right to make fun of their faith!”
This is curious, because it’s such an us/them assertion: It fails to recognize that belief is a personal thing that some people believe that the story of Christ (or any other religious figure) is just that – a story. In the same way that so many love to parody The Matrix or Lord of the Rings, Christianity is fair game for satire. If my beliefs are that there is no God, no higher power, no old man in the sky or omnipresent power connecting all living things, than I should be permitted to express those beliefs to my heart’s content. Don’t yell at me for making fun of your beliefs when, in doing so, I am expressing my own.
If you believe differently than I do, I respect that – but it doesn’t mean that I have to automatically assume that your beliefs aren’t a steaming pile of feces. I respect everyone automatically, but their beliefs are subject to question. When someone comes up to you and tells you that tiny frogs live in their ears and tell them how to live their life, the response is generally “Bwhahahahaha! You’re fucking NUTS!” and I have no problem with this. When someone says something that you consider to be absolutely unfounded and crazy, you should say so.
Therefore, when someone says to me “This carpenter got nailed to a tree 2,000 years ago and therefore, we’re all free of ‘sin,’ but have to follow inexplicable rules in order to remain so,” I just have to laugh, because – in my mind – that’s ludicrous. I’ve read the Bible dozens upon dozens of times. Biblical study was one of my focuses in college. It’s a fantastic and beautiful set of stories, and the character of Jesus of Nazareth (whether he actually existed or not) had innumerable words of wisdom, from the likes of which many people would surely gain valuable insight; but when YOU choose to believe that these stories are unquestionably true and to try to emulate their message in every aspect of your life, you start to resemble those Trekkies who wear Starfleet uniforms to jury duty and take classes like Speaking Klingon 101.
If you choose to believe, without any outside evidence, that the Bible is historical truth, that there is only one means by which one can be saved, that there is only one source for a connection to something beyond yourself, that is your prerogative. You’ll just have to excuse the rest of us who don’t feel that we need a book to tell us how to be good people. You’ll excuse us if we can’t help but notice that while your religious views may help and comfort YOU, they happen to be beliefs that are not based on the reality in which we live. If you choose to believe such things, as is certainly your right, you should be prepared to be perceived as naïve, superstitious, and reliant on crutches that make dealing with the horrors of the world less painful, but also less human.
It would be nice to believe that there’s someone who loves us watching over us, but we’ve seen no evidence of that, aside from the assertions of myths, worldwide – all of which cropped up as man was suddenly able to use his imagination. The story of Jesus Christ is inspiring to me, not because I am gullible enough to believe that an invisible and elusive deity sacrificed His only Son in order to save humanity from this “sin” business, but because the story came from a human being, who thought “Wouldn’t it be nice if we were willing to give our own lives, such that the lives of those we leave behind would be made better?” and that human being was kind enough to pass that idea on to future generations. That’s it. It’s a great story. It has a lot to teach us. We should all read it. We should not, however, feel obligated to believe it, or patronize the beliefs of those who strangely want to label it as literal history. Cope.
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Just as a Christian might reject the Hindu faith, or a Confucian might reject the Christian faith, all of these can do so without referring to the others as a mythology. And I do understand that the only thing, truly, that differentiates mythos from religious beliefs is having followers who believe.
But, on the one hand, you can conceed that a person has a belief system (whether you believe in it or not, it is there) without offering offense. On the other hand, you discount it entirely and treat it as a fallacy. Is this really different than the behavior that the fundamentalists you don't like exhibit towards you?
While you may easily be within your rights to believe that any other person's faith is based on a fallacy, or even that it's a complete and utter steaming pile, I think there's a certain amount of duplicity in declaiming the beliefs of others for declaiming the beliefs of others.
Does that make any sense at all?
I don't expect you to believe anything other than what you want to believe, but why is it so important to you to paint the beliefs of others in a negative light? If frog-nose boy comes up to me, I may assume he is insane, I might not believe as he believes, but I am generally happy to let him continue to believe as he believes and will debate his beliefs with him if he opens that door.
I don't think anyone ever gets anywhere with a dismissive "you're full of shit" no matter what side of the fence it comes from. No one deserves to have someone else's belief (or lack of belief) rubbed in their faces.
"I'm a paranoid agnostic. I doubt the existence of God, but I'm sure
there is some force, somewhere, working against me." -Marc Maron
I love pointing out to them episodically that their myths are no better than my myths, and in a lot of ways are -less- compelling.
Your god never had sex? Never? Ever? Daaaaamn, no way am I signing up with you people...
L.
Common usage seems to suggest that when someone says that they "believe" in something, that thing plays a major part in the composition of their of their opinion in regard to the context of the statement. A person might say "I believe what my English teacher has to say about The Catcher in the Rye," and he would mean that his teachers statements echo his own opinion on the book; And when he says "I believe in the Bible," he would probably mean that the Bible echoes his thoughts on religion - though not necissarily his thoughts on history or gardening. He could foreseeably mean that the Bible structures his opinion on anything, but since the Bible is primarily known as a religious work, it can be reasonably assumed that he intends the statement in that context. I point this out because I have a few Christian friends who will gladly tell you that they "belive in the Bible," but would also laugh at the notion of it being a history book. [Being Discordian, I laugh at the idea of the Principia Discordia being a history book *and* I laugh at the idea of it being a religious text.]
-I can already see some problems with my "definition" of belief, as the statement "I believe in love," should parse, however awkwardly, into "In my opinion, love is an abstract concept that exists in the world." But I hope you can see the gist of my confusion.
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YES.
Best one line synopsis of Christianity ever. Must remember that one for future use.
Oh, and you are brilliant as ever. Some day I will think of something else to say when speaking to you, but now is sadly not that day.
Personally its tiny penguins that tell me what to do in my sleep, but the frogs was disturbingly close.
there are a lot of good lessons in the bible, but to expect that EVERYONE believes the bible as TRUTH and FACT - that's just unreasonable. (& it drive me nuts!)
it's like mass hysteria or the fear of falling. it's superstition. it's "but WHAT IF it's true - then I'll burn for an eternity!" the day I let go of the guide rope and began to walk on my own, see with my own eyes - I've eaten from the tree of good and evil, my eyes are opened, and I can never look back. I know better.
ramble ramble ramble. ;) or as my brother puts it, "get off my dick and let me live my own life."
I feel a tiny bit of faith in science is required to believe the information presented throughout the years has validity.
I think it would be interesting if aliens descended, laughing in hysterics, because our faith in science is inordinarily rediculous. Of course, they change a law here, change a law there, and God/or any other deity appears! heh
The unknown; somethings our worst enemy, other times our best enema!
-badge
Am attempting to learn Sindarin.
Am happy with my belief system ;-).
his family seriously believed in Thor and Loki and Odin and Asgard and Valhalla and whatnot. the religion is so out of fashion now that we can't help but think of it as mythology, but here is a whole family of people seriously believing it.