Bram Cohen ([info]bramcohen) wrote,
@ 2005-01-06 01:17:00
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BitTorrent Usage
I'd like to point out that although a number of very large BitTorrent-based web sites have been taken down recently, downloads of BitTorrent have only gone down slightly. There's a widespread belief that BitTorrent is used almost exclusively for warez, probably a perception of people who themselves use it almost exclusively for warez, but that impression is simply untrue.

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Hmm, maybe not.
[info]waxpancake
2005-01-06 03:32 pm UTC (link)
If you look at the monthly stats, it looks like January might be a significant decrease from December. About 20% through the month of January, there have been 170k downloads so far. At this point in December, there were roughly 375k downloads.

I agree with you that people are definitely using BitTorrent for non-warez purposes, but it wouldn't be surprising to see a dropoff in downloads after the closure of several popular websites.

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[info]mlinksva
2005-01-06 03:54 pm UTC (link)
If you look at the link in the post, stats are only available currently for the first two days of January, and those two days add up to 170k. If anything downloads have gone up, not down. Not that I'd want to draw any conclusions from two days' worth of data.

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A-ha!
[info]waxpancake
2005-01-07 05:56 am UTC (link)
I stand corrected. Very impressive.

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(Anonymous)
2005-01-06 05:16 pm UTC (link)
BitTorrent may have been used heavily for warez at first, but it's getting to the point now where average, normal people are using it get large (legal) files. After the tsunami last week, the *only* way to get videos of it was with BitTorrent.

My parents even installed it...and they wouldn't have any idea what "warez" means, much less want any.

The more mainstream it becomes, the more law-abiding people are going to be seeing "You need to click here to install BitTorrent" links.

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[info]zaitcev
2005-01-06 07:14 pm UTC (link)
The recent article in Wired on piracy specifically excludes BitTorrent from the likes of Kazaa.

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BitTorrent t-shirts
(Anonymous)
2005-01-06 07:38 pm UTC (link)
Just curious, is anyone associated with BitTorrent making money off these t-shirts?
http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=291

I would sure like to contribute money to BitTorrent and it would be awesome if I got a sweet t-shirt out of it.

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Re: BitTorrent t-shirts
[info]yawgm8th
2005-01-06 08:45 pm UTC (link)
http://bittorrent.com/donate.html contains that exact link. So yes.

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Re: BitTorrent t-shirts
[info]geometricplague
2005-01-07 02:10 pm UTC (link)
who is that on your icon

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Re: BitTorrent t-shirts
[info]yawgm8th
2005-01-07 04:55 pm UTC (link)
me

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What about other BT clients?
(Anonymous)
2005-01-07 08:48 am UTC (link)
The unwashed massed will be becoming more educated about BT, particularly with the recent publicity in the mainstream press. This education would probably include the discovery of BT clients other than 'Mainline', which represents 2 of the 38 peers connected to one of the torrents im seeding.

Sourceforge lists its number one download (http://sourceforge.net/top/toplist.php?type=downloads_week) as the BT client Azureus(downloaded 1729678 time this week), roughly 3 times the downloads on the Mainline client.

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[info]axe_batman
2005-01-07 10:25 am UTC (link)
Truthfully speaking this is more of an accidental campaign. The BitTorrent name is up on every news feed there is to subscribe to. If anything I wouldn't be suprised if more people track the Exeem out of sheer curiosty. Hahah, wouldn't it be nice if "their" plan solidly backfired, at the end of the day Torrent users actualy went up and not down. Hehe.
cheers,
SId.

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[info]pixel_juice
2005-01-08 01:06 am UTC (link)
This is true. If there is a drop off, I'd only really attribute it to people that pretty much thought Suprnova WAS BitTorrent. So many people I know said "Suprnova's down...there goes BT". Funny, I have like 15-20 other trackers in my favorites, suprnova was convenient, but by no means VITAL.

My opinion is that all that needs to be done is construct web site a system that makes the distribution of torrent links (to legal content or otherwise) not in breach of DMCA or any other similar act. However, I'm not too fond of the IRC system that sites like TVRewind have.

I think it should use tech like RSS, were the site as a front end doesn't have to actually exist. We just pull links as the come in to existence...

It will be figured out, I have faith.

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[info]deus_x
2005-01-08 03:09 am UTC (link)
RSS & BitTorrent? You mean like TV RSS and the other auto-downloaders listed on the TV torrent sites?

Also, two of the podcast receivers I've used incorporate RSS and BitTorrent, namely: iPodderX and iPodder (different programs, confusing, I know). And, unlike the TV torrent sites, podcasts are pretty much unambiguously legal (except where they include music without permision)

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[info]pixel_juice
2005-01-08 05:21 am UTC (link)
Exactly. In fact that was what i was referring to. Only I think it still has a way to go...But yeah. That is the way to go.

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[info]deus_x
2005-01-08 05:35 am UTC (link)
Beyond the media stuff that's hot right now, I'd love to see some sort of automated software update system using XML feeds and BitTorrent. Although, since a lot of updates I could think of would tend to be less than 10-100MB, it might not be so useful.

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A little maths problem
(Anonymous)
2005-01-08 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Type 1 000 000 in a calculator.
Now... you can only use the number 7 and the operators: = + - * /
to lower 1 000 000 to 7.

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Re: A little maths problem
(Anonymous)
2005-01-09 12:44 am UTC (link)
1000000-7*7*7*7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7-7*7*7*7-7*7*7-7*7*7-7*7*7-7*7-7*7-7*7-7/7
(press enter)

-cc

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XML/RSS auto torrent download
(Anonymous)
2005-01-09 02:06 am UTC (link)
You just have not been looking ;)
if you use Azureus as your client.... there is a XML/RSS feed plugin..
(latest version requires Java 1.5 previous 2.1.0.4 required only Java 1.4 and argueably less draining on system, resources.)

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=RSSImport

"This plugin reads an rss feed and imports the torrent files into azureus, according to the filters you set."

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Make copies unregulated
[info]notewell44
2005-01-10 07:17 pm UTC (link)
If copyright law was updated so that copies became unimportant then services such as BitTorrent would become truly a service for all media content. Please visit Omidyar.net or Common Rights for a discussion of how this can be done. (PS I could do with some help with writing the 'inter-office' protocol for this project.)

Nicholas Bentley

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(Anonymous)
2005-02-25 08:59 pm UTC (link)
The future is your ISP bill mirroring that of your cell phone bill; your alloted X amount of bandwidth for X dollars and anything exceeded would cost extra.

I recently have gotten into Internet TV through my XP Media Center and I can't imagine ISPs not capping bandwidth in the future. Many ISPs are content distributors and Internet TV will wreak havoc on their business models and of course a torrent of users streaming TV shows would be a costly thing to their bottom line!

This future ISP problem and the above stated resolution may become a saviour to the copyright community. Hopefully then they will realize they can create another stream of revenue by working with ISPs in getting a piece of consumers monthly ISP bills, whereby P2P is no longer stigmatized!

Entertainment as a utility is the future!

Cheers, Chaser

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