anarqueso ([info]anarqueso) wrote,
@ 2006-01-07 12:45:00
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Community.
This one is for me, eight months ago, when Formaldehyde had just broken his back and I begrudgingly “asked for help” without ever saying what or how much I really wanted. This is for M*, whose kid is such a pain she won’t let me try to watch him. This is for all of us, including you. We’ve lost loved ones, worked too much or not at all, discovered tumors, moved up four flights of stairs. We’ve grown up to be people we never wanted to, coupled with people who are suspiciously similar to the last person, or worse, to our parents. Our relatives may be intolerable, but we still have to deal with them. We’ve spent a mint on our health, and our health, perhaps has merely bared its teeth at us. We spend hours or days or years telling ourselves horrible stories. We don’t know what to do, now or next, or what we should have done in the first place. We’re raising our own difficult children, or others’, or maybe we blew it and M’s raising our stinky kids instead. We’ve got a host of troubles.

This one is for those of us who deal with it alone, or only let a few of our closest people touch our pain.

Why?

Take me, for example. If you’re in trouble, I’m usually glad to offer my help. I’m flattered if you ask me for something, and I’m often exasperated if I see you not asking when you’re clearly needing. I believe strongly in community. Mutual support. So why the hell would I rather remove my face with a cheese grater than admit that I want someone to clean my kitchen during the month that my life goes to shit? Do I believe that community only goes one way, flowing magnanimously outward from me? Is Formaldehyde the only person who gets to see me when I’m bitter and desperate? Is my need such a rare and precious thing that I have to keep it crushed in my chest?

I think not.

Let’s talk about community. While we’re at it, we might as well talk about pride and independence and isolation.

Who or what is your community? How did you find it? What role do you play? What prevents you from participating? How can we create or improve community, and what impedes us from doing that? What’s your vision?

If you feel that we, the LJ people who are paying attention right now are part of your community, is there anything you’d like to ask for? Do it now; I’m listening. Is there anything you’d like to offer? Now, most of us are far-flung strangers, often poor, or busy, or overly-troubled, and we may or may not be able to give people what they ask for. Is there anything we can collectively do to make that fact less hard? Can we offer references or suggestions? Create a problem-solving LJ community? Just write our comforting words and hopes?

And let’s not assume that community just means sharing burdens. We’ve got a lot to celebrate. Formaldehyde’s back is healed. Someone’s going to college, someone quit a bad job for a better one. You’re in love, getting married. New babies, new homes, new friends, new hopes. How do we share our luck and accomplishments? How far can and should we spread our pride and happiness? How do we do that? Can we afford it? What does that do for others, and what does it do for us?

Yesterday I sat with a bunch of warm, loving, laughing people who'd cared for someone while he died. The line between sorrow, support, and celebration wasn't very clear.

Existential hoohah aside, why is it that we feel so alone? There are jillions of us, packed together, and we’re not all that different when you come right down to it.

What do we have? What do we need? What can we do?








*M, how will he ever learn to burn bridges other than yours if you don’t let him out? For someone with such a non-traditional family, your insistence on doing it all without “outside” help looks suspiciously nuclear!



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[info]felicks
2006-01-07 09:07 pm UTC (link)
I maybe used to have trouble asking for help, some people will say I still do, but I feel quite adept at it now.

I have always, all my adult life, had a group of friends where we automatically washed each others dishes, helped last minute painting before the other person's landlord came over for the final inspection, etc. Since having Ru I have had to accept way more help than I can give. Realizing that I can't actually give as much as I get has been hard. I hope to get back into the giving side soon.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 09:11 pm UTC
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[info]touchyphiliac
2006-01-07 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I'm still trying to build community as I work out the lessons about (lack of) community that I learned early in life and try to integrate the later lessons that I learned from my heart and from my foster family. Building community is a slow process for me and I consider you all part of my community, but I don't have anything to ask for. I, too, keep a lot of my stuff for my primary partner and my closest friend, mostly because those are the people I'm intimate with in my daily life. Although, Paintdrinker's the only one I'd ask to do my dishes. Boy, did I need it!

They're calling me for breakfast. Persistently. Gotta go--I'll come back to this later. I think this is a really great post.

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(no subject) - [info]sissyhips, 2006-01-07 10:21 pm UTC
*cough* - [info]paintdrinker, 2006-01-11 07:26 am UTC
Re: *cough* - [info]touchyphiliac, 2006-01-11 07:38 am UTC

[info]elementa
2006-01-07 10:09 pm UTC (link)
For some reason I want to share something cool that I heard yesterday.

My friend was telling me about a time that her uncle was talking about raising kids...and he said something along the lines of:

"Anyone can love their own kid - I want to raise my kids so that other people can easily love them."

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felicks, 2006-01-07 11:47 pm UTC
hello
[info]unemployia
2006-01-07 10:40 pm UTC (link)
slow moment working retail i was surfing around my LJ friends-friends. Which I do every once in a while. some of my friends have realy interesting friends.

This is such a great post! and then I looked down at some stuff you wrote before -- do you have a teenaged child? I have a teenaged child--she is 17, will be 18 in march.

so hello! hello! Community is very important. Always interested in comparing notes with the rare rad parent of teen ...

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Re: hello - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:05 pm UTC

[info]gordonzola
2006-01-07 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Damn, I hate when you write the things I'm thinking about before I can clearly articulate them. What I need right now is a longer break. Back to the cheese...

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:33 pm UTC

[info]susanstinson
2006-01-07 11:06 pm UTC (link)
These are beautiful questions, and moving to me. I don't have answers in me right now, but couldn't go by without saying at least that.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]susanstinson, 2006-01-09 12:26 am UTC

[info]malabar
2006-01-07 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Most of the old structures have fallen away and we don't have anything yet to replace them. Particularly in the US, rugged individualism is equated with the pioneer spirit; self-reliance is seen as the ultimate goal. What nobody considers is the fact that humans are a gregarious species - we get lonely, we need each other. Certainly when I was growing up in the Dysfunctional Family Circus it never occurred to me that other people might want to help me. It's taken years and any number of weird incidents to convince me of this.

Brief story: when I sprained my ankle badly enough to be on crutches for 6 weeks, I lived alone, 15 miles from anyone I knew. I couldn't drive with my leg in a cast, so I asked the doctor how I was going to get groceries (this was long before home delivery started to make a comeback). He asked me if I belonged to a church. I stared at him in shock and asked, "What, I'm supposed to pray for groceries?"

Eventually it occurred to me to ask my friends - but only after I'd exhausted every other option I could think of. Would I have done it for them? In a second, without even a thought. But this was me, and I didn't deserve to have help. If I couldn't make it on my own, I shouldn't be around at all.

So I understand whereof you speak. I'm slowly learning to ask - the worst I've ever heard is no (rather than "Get away from me, you disgusting freak!")

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:40 pm UTC
Possibly unrelated responses
[info]substitute
2006-01-07 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Community has always happened to me while I was looking for friends, analogous to the way a career happened to me while I was looking for jobs. Since puberty I've always been in a supportive group of some kind: the geek squad in high school, the college radio station, a music scene, my coffee house friends.

I took more than I give, though. I was the one who worked hard at making up for the fact that I withdrew more than I should. I'd fix your computer or lend you $200 or drive you to the airport but when I had to be alone I could be a very disappointing community member to people who were emotionally stricken.

Since I began using internetworked community settings more than 15 years ago, I've encountered more communities that I'd describe as "fellow sufferer" groups. My "e" friends suddenly included disabled people, the mentally ill, GLBT people in shitty small towns, people locked in loveless marriages, the seriously ill, and a host of other people whose lives didn't translate into easy real-life social interaction. That community broke down a lot of doors and made it easier for me to be helpful or just present for people whose lives involved more than the expected amount of pain.

I was in a 12-step group for a year or so. The experience of sitting at a table with a dozen people who had problems related to mine, and each of us talking a bit, maybe breaking down or being unable to talk, but taking strength from the mere presence of people who gave a damn, was very powerful. When I think of "community" in a good sense, I think of that group battling the storm together.

So the community I want and try to create is mostly that: an egalitarian group that knows and shares each others' problems, whether anyone can fix it or not.

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Re: Possibly unrelated responses - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-07 11:59 pm UTC

[info]amarama
2006-01-08 12:04 am UTC (link)
I live alone and I am alone quite a bit these days. This is how I like it. I have more people than I can handle, and this is also how I like it. I have the people who I have pretty deep and long-lasting relationships with, and their people, who I will know will take care of me if I am fucked, pretty much. These are some families of people, the people at Thermalia, [info]fattest's house, the other fat dykes, and [info]felicks and her family, and also Noella. They are all in Oakland and by me. Then, I have my people of LA, who are like this, too, but in LA. And you cheeses I like and support me. And the Inner Richmond contrarians/neo-conservatives, [info]jette, [info]swaz, and [info]commonreader I know would definitely go to bat for me if the chips were down. I am lucky and well-tended. I also have people of New York, Philly, and the UK. I am flush with community.

It is so important to me that I said to my new lover on the phone the other night, when he joked, "You should move down here," that I said to him, "You would not be able to drag me kicking and screaming away from Oakland after the nearly ten years of community I've cried and fought over, and busted my ass to keep here. You might be able to drag me to London, but San Jose, no fucking way."

I mostly rely on people to remind me I'm not crazy, give me emotional support, and bail me out if my car dies. I give a lot. I am more of a giver, but am better at receiving than ever. What I have is toughness and tenacity, ridiculous resourcefulness, insight, lovigness, and a particular talent for dealing with craziness, crisis, and mania. What I need is non-judgmental emotional support and non-sexual physical attention, people to go to events with me and be my cheerleader when I need it, and also ways to make money.

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2006-01-08 12:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2006-01-08 12:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jette, 2006-01-08 12:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2006-01-08 04:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jette, 2006-01-08 04:05 am UTC
Community
[info]kathmuse
2006-01-08 12:11 am UTC (link)
Hi,

I found this post as a link for Gordonzola's LJ...it's a timley topic for me, as my husband and I are in the process of trying to move out of the Bay Area and are trying to find the kind of place where we want to live. A sense of community is important to us; it's something he felt back in the UK where he grew up and something I've never had but always desired.

Community has always eluded me, I think largely becuase of my own inability to trust and feel confident in group situations. I'll post on a message board, but don't ask me to share stuff in public with people I don't know!

I'll follow this thread with interest as I want read about how people build and maintain community.

And I am so sorry about your friend.

kath

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Re: Community - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 05:37 am UTC

[info]freshwater_pr0n
2006-01-08 12:42 am UTC (link)
This is something I've thought about recently, too. A big part of my decision not to have kids is my belief that nuclear families are so inadequate that they're harmful to children. And I've been too self-sufficient for too long to ask for the help I know that I'd need to raise a child in a manner I'd find healthy.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 05:38 am UTC

[info]fearfuloptimist
2006-01-08 01:12 am UTC (link)
For me, community in the California I moved to as a young adult out of college has always been harder than the community I had in college or the community I grew up in for at least part of my childhood in Oregon. California is a tough place, especially if you are not clearly identified with a specific group.

I imagine that if I were a tried-and-true lesbian feminist, or S/M player, or anarchist, or hippie, or suburbanite, or Jew, or even woman with roommates who weren't my family, I'd have easier community. I'm not sure the relationships within the community would be easier, but the getting to the community or feeling a part of one might. I realize that almost no one feels like they really "fit in" and that we all experience outsiderness, so it's funny that I have the perception that I am especially, perpetually, outside.

I need the support of my community quite a bit right now, but am surrounded by people like me with limited resources, time and, mostly, with small children. My current fantasy, a weekend long "work day" at our house to get rid of the clutter and reorganize so we can fit two more children into our small place. I'm so overwhelmed by my own pregnancy right now, and by all the shit in our house, and by our lack of space and resources that I feel sort of immobile. But the idea of asking for this kind of labor from my friends seems improbable and uncomfortable. And I'd owe big. I don't like owing. I also don't like admitting that I feel this way, that I worry so much about the give and take.

My solution is usually to go into further debt hiring someone to help me. There's a dyke organizing service in the City I read about recently. I fantasize about them coming over and giving me a quote and just taking care of it all for me. The advantage of course, is that it is a purely transactional relationship. I pay, they work - there is no guilt, I can get the kind of work done I need, and I also assume that they will take control. If me and my friends sit around discussing what to do, I will simply overwhelm them with my own overwhelmedness and probably piss them off in the process.

There is a group of people that I don't fear exposure with - these are the aforementioned college friends. I've talked about this before in my own journal. I don't know what it is about them, but there is a whole group of people in the Northwest with whom the give and take is completely easy, pleasant and good. We know how to be with each other, help each other, listen, laugh, party. I've never found such ease with others as I still have with them and I often fantasize about moving back up North in order to be closer. But I have strong, albeit more difficult, connections here, close family and there's a lot about the Bay Area that makes me feel safe in a way I'm not sure exits in Portland, Olympia or Seattle.

And, of course, I have my family. Now, The Butch, my partner - has not been one to surround herself with groups of friends the way I have. She has one or two close friends and that's about it. Plus the friends we've made together, or that I've brought her way. The Butch is a much more private and content person than me. I believe she craves community like I do, but relies on me to bring it to her. And our child. Since we've become parents, our community is more or less his community. By default we are constantly surrounded by other parents (straight and queer) and their children. We have a lot of social engagements and interactions. But these do not an adult community make - at least not totally, or not in the that warm way I feel when I think about the Northwest friends.

And then there is work. In almost every workplace I've had since I moved back to California in '89, I've formed tight friendships. I was a much harder worker before I had kids, spending many long hours at my job. Long hours creates giddy connections with other people working long hours. Giddy connections are wonderful. My current workplace is very community oriented - but not quite for me. I'm older than many of my coworkers, I have kids, they don't - we're in different places in our lives. Still, I love being with them when I'm at work.

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(no subject) - [info]fearfuloptimist, 2006-01-08 01:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 05:40 am UTC
Life preservers
[info]sarahshevett
2006-01-08 01:14 am UTC (link)
This is a very timely post and pondering for me.
We have just gone through a disastrous week here. A flood and a huge windstorm has wreaked havoc on our little community.
You do really find who your friends are and what community is.
Who offered help, and who offered help, but with (my own here, not substantiated) reservations and costs.
There has been a shift in my view of who is here to help and who will help only if they benefit in the end.

I have felt mostly alone in dealing with the whole mess, but a few shining stars have risen to the top of who I love in the world.

I will ponder this long into 2006.

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Re: Life preservers - [info]gordonzola, 2006-01-08 03:50 pm UTC
Re: Life preservers - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 05:48 am UTC
Re: Life preservers - [info]purejuice, 2006-01-08 08:39 pm UTC

[info]slutbunwalla
2006-01-08 01:32 am UTC (link)
I remember realizing that my family are really the only people who will absolutely keep trying to keep tabs on me even when I seem to drop off the face of the earth. Friends can only give so much if one stops responding. I don't really know how to go about it anymore, looking for a community or making new friends really... It all seemed so unintentional to begin with-the fact that it's all dissolved doesn't seem surprising.
It's the work at staying involved that I have a hard time with.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:02 am UTC

[info]goodall
2006-01-08 03:25 am UTC (link)
I don't have a community. I have connections with people from very different communities, but I don't really belong to any community, although I have affiliations.

I am not really happy with this situation all the time, but that is how it is.

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(no subject) - [info]flipzagging, 2006-01-08 07:57 am UTC

[info]nuncstans
2006-01-08 03:30 am UTC (link)
I've been thinking about community incessantly since I moved, a week and a half ago, to the Midwest. It's absolutely bizarre to be living by myself in the middle of nowhere. I have no friends here, no family, no partner, no community. And yet because I moved here to take an academic job in a progressive-lefty department, there's this very strong myth of ideal community, intellectual community here. I have been invited to exactly one social function, a large dinner, at which I talked to everybody and felt like I could maybe build some kind of life for myself here. But while they were all tipsily loquacious at the party, when sober no one seems to be willing to have a cup of coffee with me. It's insane. In NY I have tons of friends, ranging from people I see every day to people I see less than once a year, friends and acquaintances from different parts of my life who all of them, if we run into each other and are both free, are happy to talk--interested to catch up, learn what's been up in our different circles. People I complain about, people who complain about me, people who I only like to see for certain structured activities...we all seem to fit into a social life that's very satisfying, brimming-over, even though most of what we all do is complain. But here... I'm depressed, having spent two weekends in a row without any offer of company. In my last fake hey-how's it going-aren't we all so busy run-in with a colleague, I said, "actually, I'm totally free, what are you up to?" and he got a panicked look on his face, mumbled excuses, and fled.

I never thought of myself as inordinately social; I've always needed lots of time alone. But this is ridiculous. Do these people have a view of community that is so restrictive that they can't open up to a "new" person? I just don't understand. I don't get the double discourse, people repeating how happy they'll be to help with "anything at all" I need, and how with a growing sense of absurdity I say, "I'm fine, just a little lonely, why dontcha let me know when you're (all) doing something?" I don't know if it's the midwest, if it's the university, or what. But I've always bounced around a lot, and had a relatively easy time making new friends. But somehow being young faculty scares off the grad students who are my age and the professors who are my parents' ages. This sucks. I miss New York.

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(no subject) - [info]nuncstans, 2006-01-08 03:44 am UTC

[info]jette
2006-01-08 04:22 am UTC (link)
Since I cooed at my Ama in your lj, I feel I owe you a real answer about this topic. This is something I have thought about, and felt a lot of pain about, for many years now.

My opinion now is that community is like family - people who you have a certain responsility towards but who are not of your own choosing. Today I spent six hours with other parents at my youngest's elementary school, in a volunteer training. We have nothing really in common other than raising children in the Avenues. We pulled together to make something Happen.


Some friends become like family - you love them and you would care for them, unless they made a serious breach of trust or standards. Sub-cultures, no matter how many tight friend-bonds are formed, are not communities - they are friendships. No one is compelled to give me sleeping room because we both like electronic music, no matter how much I purr "plurrrr" at them.

But community - that's what happens when you want the actual space where you live and breathe and work and play and die to be Civilized.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jette, 2006-01-09 06:08 am UTC

[info]flipzagging
2006-01-08 08:14 am UTC (link)
I don't know what community would mean, for folks like us.

I think that each of us, in every cell of our bodies, wants to be in the ancestral environment. The tribe -- a group of fifty to two hundred people who all had lives similar to our own, who knew us from cradle to grave, yet wherein we would be guaranteed to be special in some way.

And yet, for the somewhat damaged people that find themselves on computer networks at the beginning of the 21st century, the tribe is impossible. The tribe is also prejudiced, conformist, gossipy, and warlike, and would have banished us anyway.

And, all on our independent trajectories, whether set that way from damaging family situations or simply the nature of life today, tribes are no longer possible. Indeed we wake up every day and engage in activities which will only make us more and more different from the people around us; different jobs, different books read, different careers, different religions...

It seems to me that true community is impossible without common resources. That's what the word meant, originally: common fortifications. Without that common piece of land to defend, there is no community. It can't just be a bunch of people who like being with each other. What you have there are friendships, which are to always to some extent conditional and were always meant to shift over time. The tribe means loyalty to one shared existence; we all perish or thrive together.

Some people want that so desperately they'll go to war, join churches, join gangs. What do the rest of us do?

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:08 am UTC

[info]maeve66
2006-01-08 08:36 am UTC (link)
Oh, [info]anarqueso, this is an excellent topic. For me, community is a very elastic, expansible term. I agree with the social analysis higher above here, what [info]malabar said and your answer. The social infrastructure that used to exist -- at least could exist -- with integrated neighborhoods where you lived in multigenerational homes with well-known neighbors who worked close to home, etc., is gone. Odd as this sounds, I partly wanted to look at LJ to see whether it generates some new, evanescent version of community. One kind of community, and not infallible.

I moved out to the Bay Area so I'd be close to my sister and her eventual family, and it's really important to me to be near to and involved with my sister and brother-in-law and nieces. My family from Chicago visits a lot, and I go back there, because it would be very hard for any of us to be too distant from each other. My mother may even move out here, though it will make her a lot poorer if she does, money going a lot further in Chicago. But I believe in chosen families, too -- my whole family seems to. We're very accretive: people add into, but don't really ever leave. It was the kind of household where people, young comrades, high school friends in trouble with their folks, etc., were always moving in for a few years. And the socialist network thing, too, created chosen community, really. So I had a model for that, and the friends who feel like family to me out here are really, really important.

And then, in the end, I still have exactly the problem many commenters mention, that feeling like asking for help is something I can only do -- not even to my sister and brother-in-law, but to... well, to a partner. Which means I'm screwed if I'm single, if I don't learn how to change that. I can accept help when I need it, but it's very near to impossible for me to ask for it, which is crazy. I don't know how to knit together those levels of community and mutual aid.

As for LJ, it's been kind of amazing to me how I can feel close to some people I've never even met, and also how many people I've met first through LJ and then in person, and become friends with. It's not an automatic or easy infrastructural substitute for the kind of non-chosen but mutually-obliged community that [info]jette describes above, if I understand her correctly.

This is fascinating. I want to think about it more. And I have missed your writing since you've been so much busier. More than any other LJer I know, [info]anarqueso, you write entries that make me think hard and consider deeply and feel a lot. Thank you.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:12 am UTC

[info]divalion
2006-01-08 08:49 am UTC (link)
Funny you should post this now...this last few weeks my tribe-of-choice has come through for me big time to help me through a really difficult patch.

In the community I am part of, everyone is exactly like an extended family who all believe in the importance of family...which means there's always someone there to cheer you up, help you move, plan your surprise birthday party, or just hang out with. They are there and willing to do just about anything in a tragic situation. It also means that we sometimes have the kind of gossip, conflict, and dysfunction of a sprawling family...but since we're still all there by choice, one has to assume we love each other more than not. =)

I love my tribe-of-choice. I've relied on them for a lot; I don't feel like I've given enough back, but I try to. My biggest worry now is what will happen when I'm ready to leave this area. Much of this community is bound by geography, and though I know they'll still love me if I move away, I am afraid of being someplace where I don't have friends nearby or a local support network. Yet I don't feel like this area is the one I want to settle in for good. Since I'm not ready to move yet, though, I figure this question will work itself out eventually.

I think we all have an instinctual tendency towards community; it's just not completely accepted that we have the right to find that community where we want it and form it according to our own needs and lifestyle. My parents, for example, would never have found it acceptable to have friends drop by for the evening and end up crashing on the couch, yet I couldn't thrive without that possibility. It was a revelation to me the day I realized there was no reason I couldn't live like that, and I think too many people end up being raised to believe that there's a "right" way to have community, which may not fit them and may make them unhappy. I wish that we could all just be as open as we wanted to forming connections, and let all our relationships find their level, and communities develop organically and from a strong foundation out of that.

I'm rambling now. Time for bed. But thanks for a great post and thanks to all for a great thread.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:14 am UTC

[info]chitinous
2006-01-08 09:52 am UTC (link)
So timely. What with my grandmother getting old and broken, and what with me half-assedly interacting with some extended family while still not speaking to my parents (except to threaten my mother with restraining orders)...lately I've been doing a lot of pondering on the nature of family. Community, to me, is like family: I may not like or love everyone in my community, but unless they've broken some basic rule of respect (like "no hitting," say), I will pitch in and come through for them, and I expect the same back. I try to give as much as I get. During Thanksgiving/Chanukah/Xmas/New Year's, I offered to do whatever was needed to make the mega-gatherings go more smoothly. I did airport and supermarket runs, I cooked, I cleaned, I minioned, I washed dishes. And it was such a pleasure to do all that. In the future, when I make more $, I want to be able to pitch in financially more often and like buy the steak instead of (or as well as) wash the dishes.

Specifically, in the coming year, I plan on moving back to SF. I will need a job and a place to live, although it looks like those two will be fairly easy...I currently do the kind of work that recruiters adore, and my former housemate and I are discussing options for me moving back in. That, in particular, would be amazing. I am much too social to live alone forever (although I adore it right now), and I look forward to making my once and future SF home a hub of fun. And from there, I anticipate offering the same kind of community (i.e. chosen family and friends network, random neighbors, whoever) what I can without hurting myself.

Ironically, it's in Los Angeles that I have found and stuck with two social groups, one of which makes "family" a really positive word. Here in this city that is so spread out. In SF I mostly had a few friends here and there. I feel like I can take what I've learned in LA to the city that feels like home.

Oh, I'm getting really sleepy now. But I just wanted to say - there's no shame in asking or receiving help, even though we don't often feel strong being the getter.

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chitinous, 2006-01-09 02:31 pm UTC

[info]chitinous
2006-01-08 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Also, I meant to mention my apartment building's "free pile," which is another really, really precious thing that I was suprised (in a good way) to find that makes a sense of community more real. I found an adorable chair and a cool picture there. And then I contributed a bunch of disagreeable tea and it was gone within a day. That made me feel really good.

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[info]unemployia
2006-01-08 06:57 pm UTC (link)
I would like to add you as a friend - okey dokey?

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:21 am UTC

[info]ambeaux
2006-01-08 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Hello and I've also just added you as a friend after seeing your comments in two different common friends journals.

Community of reality vs community of choice is a strong theme for me these days. What do you do if your phsyical/local community isn't what you want it to be? Do you have to live somewhere else or can an online community supplement? Until three years ago I wasn't even aware of how much community I had. I lived in cities and it was easy to find like-hearted people. Now I live in a very remote location. I don't see other people very often and it's by choice and I am loving it. But I miss the community I had and am not really driven to try to replace it with something more local.

I love my online community tho that's small too by many people's standards. I have been blessed with a lot of problem solving in my life and I do whatever I can to help people to find resources or locate things they are looking for. This is easy for me to do tho since I'm married to a reference librarian--it's possible I'm cheating a little bit with that.

Ah, what a rambling first impression!

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:22 am UTC

[info]dairryiere
2006-01-09 03:37 am UTC (link)
Thank you for all of the community you have offered to me over the years even though it hurts like hell to except it or admit I need it.

Is it only the people who choose to take on rolls as care takers in our society who can't ask for help, or is it all of us?

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(no subject) - [info]anarqueso, 2006-01-09 06:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sweetchezus, 2006-01-11 05:44 am UTC

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