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Fat Girls' Guide to Dealing with Doctors
Per [info]charlottecooper's request, I'm drafting a guide for fat girls to make the most of their healthcare. This is more of a behavior guide for maximizing your experience rather than a list of services that are of particular use to fat girls. It uses fairly personal language instead of detached healthcare language, which I have mixed feelings about. I will probably make a couple more versions of this, so if people have suggestions, let me know!



When I was eighteen, I had a bogglingly rare form of kidney cancer. Before that, I had recurring ulcers. Since my late childhood, I have also been treated for anorexia and bulimia, chronic urinary tract infections, a host of both common and unexplainable gynecological problems, asthma, immunity and endocrine problems, broken bones, anxiety, insomnia, allergies, and depression. I have been fat for the vast majority of my life, and am also queer and freaky-looking. I am very effective at dealing with doctors, which is not the experience reported by most people who are like me. Family and friends remark upon what seems like my magic powers with healthcare providers when they see it in action. However, it's no magic! It's just practice and a few behavior strategies I know how to use to my advantage.

Doctors are people who are very invested in power dynamics. The way that medical education works is extremely hierarchical and almost militaristic. As patients, in this particular world, we have the least power of all. However, my adventures in sadomasochism and radical left politics have taught me that power differences are both a practical reality and a complete illusion. Whereas doctors live in their crazy, abusive, psycho subculture, I don't, so I don't have to play the role that they dictate to me.

Medical professionals are legally bound by patients' consent. However, this is easy to miss. People often feel coerced and bullied into medical treatments because they assume doctors know what's best for them, and because there is a looming morality around managing "health." This is utter bullshit. Doctors know a piece of the puzzle, but really, only part of it. The trick to dealing with them is understanding what their piece is and trying to extract it from them, while simultaneously dismissing the rest. This requires a high level of commitment to responsibility for your own health, safety, and well-being, which is understandably terrifying. However, the way I see it, most people I know have been doing this all along anyway, so it just requires a shift in thinking.

Practically speaking, the first thing to do is to learn how to decline services. Don't want to be weighed? Say "no," or, like I do, "I'm going to decline to be weighed." Even if it were true that there's some information in weight measurements that could help in gaining a picture of your body's well-being, which is questionable, you still have the right to say "no." Most western women have much, much more data about their weight fluctuations than doctors could ever gather. This is likely for fairly sick reasons, but it is also just objectively a statistic that we are more on top of than they are. It's probably not a part of the puzzle you need. You are the authority.

There are a number of things that happen that I find useful in the interaction around declining to be weighed. Saying the complete sentence "I decline to be weighed" clearly, calmly, with a slightly bored and impatient edge to your voice, while looking into the eyes of the nurse who is leading you to the plank establishes your dominance like nobody's business. If you're not feeling it, pretend you are acting in a play in which you are the star. That sentence is also bona fide legal terminology, which makes all medical professionals nervous. If the nurse gives you guff, now is the time practice taking care of yourself before you take care of other people. You might empathize with her because she's an underling, and while my everyday politics are not aligned with this behavior, I treat nurses as if they are my servants. Practice being respectful and haughty at the same time. I am normally a very loud person, but when I am giving crucial orders and directives, I am quiet and I enunciate very clearly. Never look down and always force yourself to meet a nurse's gaze.

Again, the medical world is not an egalitarian one. Your job is to get more information about your health and to get back over the threshhold of the doctor's office with your self-esteem intact, and while you normally may think of yourself as a champion for equality, you can return to this work when the door shuts behind you. You may perceive that a nurse is fearing the doctor's perception of her own competence when you decline to be weighed. While it is perfectly reasonable to ignore this, sometimes I like to handle it by saying, "If the doctor gives you a hard time, tell them to talk to me." This is dismissive, yet effective. It establishes that not only are you the dominant person in your relationship with the nurse, but that you are dominant in your relationship with the doctor.

Keep at it, and don't let your guard down. If a nurse grabs your arm and starts putting you in a small blood pressure cuff, rip it off and ask her for a large one. Often medical professionals will grab and touch your body without asking, and you need to be vigilant in not letting them do this. I never act exasperated or hostile in this situation, which tends to make women project craziness, but I always maintain eye contact whenever possible. This usually keeps them away and makes them speak before they touch me. Sometimes I make up a need or request if a medical professional doesn't perceive boundaries between us, just to train them. Too cold? Ask them to turn up the temperature. Ask for magazines. Always be exceedingly polite and act entitled.

Chances are, after the nurse escorts you to the examination room, she will talk to other nurses and the doctor about your difficulty as a patient and special needs. This is on your side! Generally, the more doctors walk on eggshells around you, the more information and better treatment you will get. It is important to note that there are circumstances that this can go awry. When dealing with specialists, surgeons, anesthesiologists, and anyone who could possibly kill or hurt you acutely, balancing dominance with certain submissive behaviors becomes more important. But this is advanced. For most healthcare, fat women generally need to get more dominant.

There are certain things that can help with this. I find that my size is on my side. The bigger I make myself and the more space I can take up, the better. I tend to wear dark-colored, more conservative clothing than I normally do, and makeup. I wear tall shoes so that I can loom over people. While these particular strategies won't work with everyone's style or gender, the basic idea is to use whatever physical power and privilege you have, and use it hard. Similarly, I engage my educational background and access as much as possible. I read up on studies. I try to use specialized terminology whenever I can. I try to keep myself on top of every type of test result I have had recently, both memorizing specific numbers and understanding what they mean. I own copies of all my medical records for all time, and I have studied them extensively and sometimes bring them to appointments to refer to.

Doctors tend to respond really well to patients being educated about their own problems, except when those problems are so bizarre and extraordinary that no one understands them at all. I try to deport myself with directness and authority with doctors. They often respond poorly to signs of vulnerability, so whereas usually I am an emotional hothead, on any first visit with a doctor I pretend to be reserved, quiet, and dignified.

I almost always make a list of what I want out of an appointment. When a doctor comes in the examining room, after formalities, I usually start in immediately with this list, as in: "I'm here because I am having menstrual irregularities and I want to 1) Stop bleeding; 2) Understand why these irregularities are happening; 3) Understand the intersection of my treatment options with my medical history; and 4) Get a referral to a specialist." Keep them on task. If they stray to something that seems ridiculous and unrelated, like treating your athlete's foot by offering you a specialized weight loss diet, bring them back to your enumerated list. Say, "I want help treating the acute issue of my athlete's foot today." It's often helpful at this juncture to invoke consumer mentality in your own mind. There is a company that you are paying for this service if you're an American, be it your HMO, the doctor's office itself, or your employer. If you live in a country with nationalized healthcare, possibly you are both paying a company for your healthcare and the government with your taxes. With that payment, ostensibly you should be rendered a high quality of service. Give the doctor a chance, but if the service is bad, leave. Always know in your mind that you can reject the doctor's advice and walk out at any point.

If this type of thinking and behavior is clunky for you or doesn't come naturally, bring in reinforcements. Tape record your conversation with your doctor. Take notes. Figure out how your friends and family can help you. If you can't loom, bring in your tallest friend. If you have a friend who studied chemistry or biology, bring them to help you understand test results. Lawyers are especially useful as support people for the intimidation factor alone. And this may hurt, but sometimes men can help women get a higher quality of care than when we go by ourselves. Personally, I find that being alive makes me a better feminist. The bottom line is, take responsibility for your own healthcare and survival, and if you have a resource, use it.


Doctor's Visit Cheat Sheet:

1) Be big. Stand up straight and use your size to your advantage.

2) Dress sharp.

3) Be direct and dominant. Always keep eye contact with anyone who is going to take statistics from your body.

4) Decline services when necessary and appropriate.

5) Demand modifications when you need them. This can be asking for a large-size blood pressure cuff, a bigger hospital gown, a warmer or colder room temperature, or anything that will contribute to the accuracy of your diagnosis and comfort of your experience.

6) Know your shit. Gather as much information as possible on your particular set of conditions.

7) Make a list of what you want from the doctor, and stick to it. Guide the doctor's interaction with you from your list.

8) If you are getting poor service, leave.

9) Use your resources to help you maximize your experience. Tape record the visit, take notes, bring your smart and physically intimidating friends and family with you.

10) Know that you are looking for a piece of the puzzle of your health and well-being, and keep your eyes on the prize.


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tragicmulatta
2005-08-23 07:31 pm UTC (link)
You are clearly in it to win it!

Good work on this. It'll be really useful. Thanks.

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[info]amarama
2005-08-24 12:44 am UTC (link)
Thanks, man!

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[info]commonreader
2005-08-23 07:41 pm UTC (link)
This is really good. You may want to consider writing an appendix on getting healthcare for your fat minor dependents, where medical professionals can and will take their weirdo power games to a level where your children can end up in foster care.

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 12:46 am UTC (Expand)

ex_motel666812
2005-08-23 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I get weighed, because I feel like it's important to show that a woman who weighs a lot (like me) can also be extremely healthy and jockish, and also beautiful (also me). This is my choice, and I don't care if anyone else does it. But I love that my weight is supposedly morbidly obese, but I still have a six-pack tummy, a tiny waist, and legs of steel from riding my bike. I'm stronger and healthier than 98 percent of the patients the nurses and docs will see that day...and I weigh as much as women who are told that their weight is a direct menace to their health. HA fucking HA.

Good work.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxox

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[info]thewindrose
2005-08-23 08:51 pm UTC (link)
This was incredibly helpful to me, in fact I'm going to mark it in my memories to go back to and re-read when I have to deal with medical providers. Thank you so much!!

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 12:47 am UTC (Expand)

[info]on_reserve
2005-08-23 08:55 pm UTC (link)
This is awesome. I do all of this stuff too but it's really great to see it written out. One thing I would add is that if you *are* and American *with* an HMO and you leave (due to poor service) by all means call or write to member services. Enough complaints and the HMO won't renew the doctor's contract. I've had some customer service reps really advocate for me when it came to things like referrals and fatphobia. If you are under some other system I'm sure there's a way to complain, I just personally don't know how :)

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-23 11:18 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]lovelikeyeast
2005-08-23 09:25 pm UTC (link)
This is gorgeous, inspirational, and what's more, not only well-written, but fucking funny. I kept stopping and finding myself calling out irreverant, loving responses to you that I won't write out because it doesn't capture the need to have immediate in-person hilarity with you.

This would make a great web resource, and I would love to put it up on whatever site you'd like to see it on if it's one I have access to.

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 12:50 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]hopita
2005-08-23 09:40 pm UTC (link)
I want to know how you have copies of your lifelong medical records. How do you go about getting something like that?

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[info]elzeekio
2005-08-23 09:59 pm UTC (link)
As a future doc, this is extremely helpful to read. I hope that I can avoid the dehumanizing, sadomasochistic elements of practicing medicine. And I hope that I can treat everyone's body respectfully.

Thank you, Amanda. Once again... You Rock!!

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 12:51 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]qthebrave
2005-08-23 11:43 pm UTC (link)
this is so great, so helpful to read.

... and, did no one suggest this to you already? and i know all you need is another giant project, but this needs to be a fuckin book! yah, book.

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 12:52 am UTC (Expand)
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oops - [info]beccawrites, 2005-08-24 03:09 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]susanstinson
2005-08-24 01:20 am UTC (link)
This is so helpful. I just recommended it (and your lj in general) to someone who asked me about doctors.

Advice for short people? What do you think about charm instead of intimidation? Is it impossible to use with doctors, a much less effective tool?

Also, would you consider sending it to Healthy Weight Journal (read by health care professionals --mostly nutritionists -- who are trying to treat fat patients respectfully)or the Journal of Lesbian Studies issue on fat? (no money either place, and the Lesbian Studies thing might be a drag in various way, but might be worth a whirl.) They say:

Please submit a one-page abstract (by email, please) by the deadline of October 1, 2005 to Deb Burgard at: jls@spamex.com

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 01:23 am UTC (Expand)
Is that who you thought I was? - [info]phatlyphashion, 2005-08-24 02:32 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]rgay
2005-08-24 02:15 am UTC (link)
This was extremely helpful. I avoid going to doctors because I'm shy and they're mean. This will be useful in the future.

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 02:40 am UTC (Expand)

[info]beccawrites
2005-08-24 04:14 am UTC (link)
Doctors are people who are very invested in power dynamics. The way that medical education works is extremely hierarchical and almost militaristic. As patients, in this particular world, we have the least power of all. However, my adventures in sadomasochism and radical left politics have taught me that power differences are both a practical reality and a complete illusion. Whereas doctors live in their crazy, abusive, psycho subculture, I don't, so I don't have to play the role that they dictate to me.

HALELUJAH! SING IT, SISTER!!!!!

This is brilliant and should be posted in each and every doctor's office everywhere. How can we make that happen?

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[info]touchyphiliac
2005-08-24 04:30 am UTC (link)
Personally, I find that being alive makes me a better feminist.

I love you, [info]amarama. Thank you for writing this. SO HELPFUL!!!!

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[info]charlottecooper
2005-08-24 01:22 pm UTC (link)
Fuck, this is amazing. Curses to time zones, which means that I'm only just looking at it now.

Ok, where to start? Yes, I think it should go online somewhere. I also think it would be great if it could be an ongoing dialogue, if it's online, maybe where people could share their strategies. Kind of like, um, Fatshionista in fact. Of course I have no energy to do this, sorry, does anyone else?

And you should totally publish it wherever you can.

Other things I thought:

Making complaints
If the service is bad, write and complain. Tell them what's wrong and what they could do to make it better. Send copies to their bosses too.

Dealing with non-Doc clinic staff
In my opinion it's always the nurses that give me shit about weight. The docs don't have time for it, but the nurses do. How do you deal with them? In the same way? Some of those women (it's always a woman) are fierce and take no shit themselves.

Don't underestimate the emotional drain of visiting the Doc's
Treat yourself to something good afterwards, make time to have a frustrated cry if you need to etc etc

It's sometimes better to smile and nod
I smile and nod when docs mention the weight stuff because I've heard it all before and I can't be bothered to make the sitauation any more tense by telling them that everything they think they know about weight is probably wrong. Sometimes I just don't have the energy to challenge, so I smile and nod and wait for them to get past the stupid stuff in order to tell me what I really want to know.

Take a pal, take a dictaphone
I've had recent success at a long-aaited apopointment fro a back injury with a pushy, questioning friend and a tape recorder. That doc jumped to attention when he saw me switch that sucker on. If dealing with low-tech gadgets is not going to make you more anxious, I highly recommend this strategy.

It is important to note that there are circumstances that this can go awry. When dealing with specialists, surgeons, anesthesiologists, and anyone who could possibly kill or hurt you acutely, balancing dominance with certain submissive behaviors becomes more important.
Could you be specific about what you mean by submissive behaviours in this situation?

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2005-08-24 03:04 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]beelavender
2005-08-24 03:31 pm UTC (link)
All of your points are totally relevant to anyone living on the fringe - you should expand the title!

Growing up working class with two different kinds of cancer (and whatever sundry other things) here are my top tips:

I always go in with the assumption that a doctor is my employee, nothing more, nothing less. I've felt this way since I was twelve years old, even in situations where I had to surrender control. The point is not to know more than the doctor (though I often do) but rather to maintain control over whatever aspect of the process you can.

I never transfer records, or provide records. Ever. Not even histology reports. Why? Because my disease is overwhelming and rare; nobody has ever heard of it. I have a polished monologue that hits the pertinent points and conveys my own advocacy skills. Doctors respond to this - they respect me, and pay attention. This approach might not work for everyone, but depending on the nature of your illness and your communication abilities, it can be a smart strategy. Doctors sometimes need to be forced to do the tests that will sort out the problem.

If you need to provide records, review what is being passed on and take out anything you feel is not necessary. Strictly speaking, doctors only need to see the results of tests -- not a narrative report about your social status and moods.

If you live in the states, be aware that some doctors are sometimes doing you a favor by not providing a diagnosis. Why? Because of pre-existing conditions clauses in the private insurance world, and occasionally the quotas for care in other sorts of plans. If you can get treatment but somehow avoid, say, being branded with systemic lupus - all the better for you in the long run. When you meet those doctors, they are the ones to stick with as long as possible.

Wherever possible, look for allies; it might be the lady on the registraton desk, it might be the blood tech. Auxiliary medical staff can sometimes be kind, decent, and helpful - if you treat them like human beings. Hold back your anger for the appropriate targets. They will be obvious.

Work the system. All insurance plans, HMO's, and government medical systems have clear rules. If you know the rules, you will be able to figure out how to use them to your advantage.

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[info]fflo
2005-08-24 04:52 pm UTC (link)
Damn, that's good stuff.

Thank you for it. I am at my worst, or least competant, or words to that effect, when dealing with medical professionals. What a great environment---artificial and surreal and isolated---in which to practice my over-the-top uppitiness!

Big points for style, too. Yeah. Good stuff, indeed.

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[info]goodbadgirl
2005-08-24 10:43 pm UTC (link)
Yes! I love this. I've been thinking about gathering some of my thoughts together both as a patient and a medical industry insider. This field is so f-ed up.

Most folks who weigh us are medical assistants with attitudes - that can make them seem like a nurse. Hell, they frequently know more than the nurses - I was a MA once myself. xxoxo

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[info]woolly
2005-09-01 12:14 am UTC (link)
Wow - the truth rang out all through your post.

I've had a bowel disease for 18 years and have had such vastly different experiences with health professionals. I go to a gastro clinic every 3 months or whenever I want to if I need them - and how grateful I am for that service! There's a nurse there who is the most amazing professional care person imaginable, and some of the top consultants in the country. But still I've had to employ tactics like you describe on a regular basis. I've put in one official complaint and seriously considered another, which I later wished I'd made.

The non-complaint was after I went in for a routine appointment - normally just a chat followed by blood being taken. Whenever I'm a bit ill there's the chance they'll want to examine me. This is very uncomfortable but I go along with it if I suspect I'm ill enough for my medication to need changing. It's my right to refuse this, but this is a teaching hospital, and I want to be accommodating. On this occasion I ended up with the head consultant prof and a room full of students. Prof talks to me in his condescending manner (high flyers are made to feel so important by their jobs that it's rare to find one who remembers its all about you) and asks if I mind him examining me - while rising from his chair & expecting no resistance. I say no, I just don't feel like I'm ill enough for this to benefit me and I say this. There's a lot of pressure - the prof is giving me a hard stare, the students are shuffling, and then he does everything to wear me down and make me feel small. Finally i give in and let him do it. While he's examining me he doesn't talk to me at all. Most consultants are super-respectful and at times comically so, but this guy just addresses his students with "note the granular lining of the bowel due to repeated ulceration..." making me feel like a lump of meat.

No surprise that I left that room in tears. I went to the nurse and sobbed. Being the lovely woman that she is, she sympathised, comforted me and admitted that he was wrong, effectively saving the hospital from an official complaint. I vowed not to let any health professional abuse me again.

Well they did, but next time I complained. A vampire in the blood room refused to let me have it taken from the arm I wanted coz it meant a bit of discomfort for her poorly neck. I told her it would mean a lot of pain and probably no blood if she attempted it on the wrong arm - but eventually gave in when she made a huge fuss in front of loads of other people. As predicted she got no blood - you have to be pretty skilled and use a small needle to have any hope on that arm. But rather than give in and admit she was wrong, she poked around in my arm like crazy causing me to howl with pain. Eventually I got her to stop and screamed at her to apologise, but no way. Calm voice and reason was impossible at this stage. Someone else took the blood with no problem from my other arm while she bitched about me a few feet away. I stomped out. I was going to leave, but called my boyfriend instead, bursting into tears. Then I went and asked how to make a complaint.

As a result of that scene the woman was given an official warning and removed from the blood room and all the other staff were given training. This satisfied me and I haven't had a single problem in there since. I also ask for my blood to be taken by nicenurse any time I don't feel like going in there.

Another time I was rolling around in utter agony at home for days when an ovary was rupturing. My GP wouldn't visit me, the receptionist hung up on me crying and because I didn't ring a damn ambulance and make a scene they didn't take me seriously in casualty & sent me home with a mis-diagnosis.

Sorry to make this so personal - but I just wanted to demonstrate how even after years and years of having this illness I still make fundamental mistakes and undervalue my own welfare. This is wrong, and the only way to avoid it is to go on the offensive. You know your own body, what's normal for you and the boundaries you can deal with, and it's up to you to force the heath system to deal with you on those terms. No-one else will really give a shit, especially not with the NHS falling apart as it is.

Thanks so much Amarama.

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[info]kineticphoenix
2006-01-20 05:30 am UTC (link)
Thank you so very much. I have my annual exam scheduled for mid-February, and you've given me fuel for my arsenal. This entry is going in my memories!

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[info]slickgothgurl
2006-01-22 02:50 am UTC (link)
sorry i'm commenting to this so late, but i joined this community after you posted this. i was linked here through Body Impolitic...

anyway, i wish i'd read this before i was (literally) forced into going to the ER on 12/20/05. a (male) doctor who was filling in for my regular doctor called me in the middle of the night and told me i MUST go to the ER because my white blood cell count was SO HIGH! (i had told him when we met that my WBC count has been higher than your usual person from the time i was born and i'm well aware of this - but he decided to forget all about that little fact). i went to see him that afternoon because i was having terrible stomach pains. STOMACH pains, for which he gave me an antibiotic to "clear up the urinary tract infection you have." i knew i didn't have one...i've had them and the pain i was having was in my STOMACH. anyway, things just get worse when i get to the ER and i'm put in a room and left for an hour. someone comes in and draws blood and asks for my urine and then proceeds to leave it on the counter for the next four hours. no one treated my pain. no one could even be bothered to get me a cup of WATER! i was there from 10:30pm to 4am and the only nurse i saw was the one who caught me taking out the IV because i wanted to leave. they wouldn't let me leave! the samples just sat there even though every time someone walked past my room i would say "are you going to take my samples away to have them tested?" and the answer was always "i'll get the nurse assigned to you." i never saw her. finally at 4am i was shaking with anger and tears streaming down my face i DEMANDED they take the IV out of my hand. the IV they never used to conduct any tests or to administer medications. i had an IV in my hand (because they couldn't find a vein in my arm) for over 5 hours. do you know how bad that hurts? the nurse actually laughed as she gave me this disgusting bruise saying "wow. do you have any veins under there or what?" not only did it anger me, but it made me feel like i was some lesser citizen because i have deep, rolling veins.

the story ends with my husband and i walking home at 4:30am in the freezing cold because there were no cabs to be found. me, with the pain still in my stomach, getting zero help from the doctors in one of the best hospitals in the country, and crying because i was so mistreated.

i'm sorry for the ramble, but i wanted to share. and i wanted to thank you for this. i need to really work on speaking up for myself, especially when it comes to doctors. every Dr i've ever seen has blamed every single problem i've had on me being fat. got conjuntivitus? it's because you're fat! fell off your bike and scraped up your knee? it's because you're fat and can't balance well. got a cold sore? IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE WEIGHT YOU'RE CARRYING! and on and on it goes. i'm tired of it. i'm tired of being told i HAVE to take such-and-such medication to cure whatever is ailing me, instead of having them councel me on alternatives, etc. i'm also really tired of having to wait for 30+ min for the dr. to come see me, only to have our meeting rushed because she's not interested in hearing what's going on with me. and the worst part? when she doesn't even know why i'm there to see her to begin with, even though she told me to follow up with her and it's all written in my chart anyway! so frustrating.

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(no subject) - [info]slickgothgurl, 2006-01-22 02:51 am UTC (Expand)

[info]peligrosaroja
2006-02-07 07:01 am UTC (link)
Amarama, what do you do when a doctor speaks rudely or condescendingly to you, if, indeed, after all that they are still foolish enough to do so?

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2006-02-07 03:20 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]antisocialite
2006-02-07 01:30 pm UTC (link)
i got here from
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i got here from <lj-user="woolf"> and this is fantastic.

however, on a completely unrelated note, i zeroed in on the part where you said you suffered chronic UTIs. I'm going through that right now, and, i do like my doctor, she's persistent about trying to figure out the problem, but we can't find out what it is. what did you do, if you don't mind me asking? if you don't want to discuss it here, you can email me at thistowniswrong AT gmail DOT com. Thanks!

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(no subject) - [info]amarama, 2006-02-07 03:23 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]firecat
2006-08-22 08:31 pm UTC (link)
May I link to this from my Fat Friendly Health Professionals web site?

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[info]thesugarmonster
2007-01-01 11:56 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for sharing this!! It helps so much. Especially because I tend to shut down and become mute the second I walk through the exam room door. Even with my current doctor; whom I love and feel absolutely respected by.

May I add you to my friend's list?

Thanks again for your help and support!

Heidi

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