Bisquit Face ([info]mcfnord) wrote in [info]weblogsociology,
@ 2004-02-27 21:54:00
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MindMap = Friendship Patterns
MindMap shows complex friendship relationships using visual clues to describe whole communities of friends.

A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!the wilderness, Heard and McDonald Islands - A Portal to another MindMap!Tooth and Klaw, Neutral Zone - A Portal to another MindMap!British Indian Ocean Territory - A Portal to another MindMap!Lisbon, Portugal - A Portal to another MindMap!Brooklyn, New York - A Portal to another MindMap!Sunnyvale , CA - A Portal to another MindMap!Los Angeles, California - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Palm Springs, California - A Portal to another MindMap!Victoria, British Columbia, Canada - A Portal to another MindMap!New York, New York - A Portal to another MindMap!Fresno, California - A Portal to another MindMap!Brooklyn, New York - A Portal to another MindMap!Dist. of Columbia - A Portal to another MindMap!New York, New York - A Portal to another MindMap!Pylea, Neutral Zone - A Portal to another MindMap!Seattle, Washington - A Portal to another MindMap!cloud-hidden, whereabouts unknown, Antarctica - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!the state that brought you Shiny Disco Balls, New Jersey - A Portal to another MindMap!Seattle, Washington - A Portal to another MindMap!Gaithersburg, Maryland - A Portal to another MindMap!London-ish, United Kingdom - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Key Biscayne, Florida - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Medina, Ohio - A Portal to another MindMap!Akron, Ohio - A Portal to another MindMap!Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - A Portal to another MindMap!Virgin Islands - A Portal to another MindMap!Utah - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Norman, Oklahoma - A Portal to another MindMap!Somewhere over the rainbow, in a blue sun temple, Belgium - A Portal to another MindMap!Sweet Home Chicago, Illinois - A Portal to another MindMap!Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania - A Portal to another MindMap!Santa Fe, New Mexico - A Portal to another MindMap!Canada - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Portland, Oregon       Friends - A Portal to another MindMap!Portland, Oregon - A Portal to another MindMap!Seattle, Washington - A Portal to another MindMap!Baltimore, Maryland - A Portal to another MindMap!Styx, Canada - A Portal to another MindMap!RATT CITY, Georgia - A Portal to another MindMap!Tampa, Florida - A Portal to another MindMap!San Rafael , CA - A Portal to another MindMap!Seattle, Washington - A Portal to another MindMap!Seattle, Washington - A Portal to another MindMap!Oakland , CA - A Portal to another MindMap!SydneyMaayet, Fials Suoth Nwe, Australia - A Portal to another MindMap!New Orleans, Louisiana - A Portal to another MindMap!Winterpeg! <3, Canada - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Costa Mesa , CA - A Portal to another MindMap!Denmark - A Portal to another MindMap!San Francisco, California - A Portal to another MindMap!Moscow, USSR (former) - A Portal to another MindMap!Brooklyn, New York - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!Mc Keesport, Pennsylvania - A Portal to another MindMap!Raleigh, North Carolina - A Portal to another MindMap!San Francisco, California - A Portal to another MindMap!Friends - A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!A Portal to another MindMap!ATL, Georgia - A Portal to another MindMap!Kalamazoo, Michigan - A Portal to another MindMap!Ophiussae, PortugalBackwards, Neutral ZoneEthereal, Neutral ZoneMany people ask me what it means, or how to read it. People often think the bigger, more central names are an estimation of who their best friends are. I don't see this group like that. Instead, the big, central names are likely to be a good estimation of who you are. If I see a stranger's MindMap, and I know some of the people in the central core, the things I know about them probably describe the stranger pretty well, too.

I always see two major groups when I look at my MindMap. One is "funny, nervous people". They're blue here, north of me. I call the other group "Euro-art anarchists". They're big, in green. Even though every MindMap I've made for myself is different, they all show these two groups. This is because everyone within these groups is a reader of everyone else. If you think about it, if five people all read each other, those five people have made 20 separate friendship decisions! Yet they probably didn't sit down one day and decide to friend each other. It happened over time, for its own myserious but undeniable reasons.

With most browsers, you can hover your mouse over names in a MindMap to see where some people live. People who have their own MindMaps have [brackets] around their names, and you can click to go to their MindMap. Using brackets, you can surf around groups near you, and perhaps learn more about your neighborhood. Often I see core groups all living in the same city. [info]distantsun's MindMap even shows a Perth, Australia core, a London, England smaller core, and a cluster of other Europeans beyond that. It's practically a history lesson.

Sometimes I see LJ'ers in a solid core of friends... from all over the world. You can be LJ friends with four other people throughout the world. But what does it mean when all five of you are friends with each other? That's 20 independent choices! That has to mean something... but what?

My friend [info]zeet called this an "unconscious psychological organization". It's unlikely these people sat down and promised to all read each other. And they're not living in the same city, either. Instead, they've met in an entirely mental space, and for specific, unique reasons, found a kinship together.

Before I saw my 2 inner cores, I had no clue what they might be. But seeing those groups around me, I can say that I definitely find myself drawn to them! I remember the day I discovered most of those journals for the first time, and just knew this was someone very special. I wondered why the pull felt so strong.

These are not the questions MindMap can answer. It can only show you the data, but it can't explain why. So many things bring people together (or push them apart). What makes friendships grow, and communities form? People have formed tribes, clubs, and parties since the beginning of time. Political parties try to represent the values of groups of people. Forming groups seems part of our human nature, and groups are at the heart of headlines and world events. Loneliness is as big a risk to your health as smoking.

Sociologists and political scientists have looked at many facets of personality and beliefs. Liberal or conservative, hostile or friendly, dominant or submissive? And people share cultural, religious, age, or other bonds. I think all these factors blend to build our friendship networks.

I want to hear your thoughts on friendship networks.
  • What factors do you think create them?
  • Are they ever planned?
  • Is there a limit to their potential size?
  • Have you experienced a whole group splitting apart?
This is a space for your questions, ideas, and discussion around this complex and fascinating topic. I'd like to hear your observations and ideas.



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friendship ... patterns
[info]aeonvolupz
2004-03-02 08:02 am UTC (link)

... hmmmmm ... cyberrelationships .... fascinating.

I would 'friend' you for this post alone (unconscious and psychological reasons? ) ... this really is one of my favorite topics ... however, lol, I think you would agree that my 'friending' is indeed due to more specific and unique reasons

wow ,,, good to see you, jd ,,, long time

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-03 03:19 pm UTC
like mind-boggling - [info]aeonvolupz, 2004-03-05 12:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-05 04:06 pm UTC
Deeply cool
[info]anaisdjuna
2004-03-04 10:59 am UTC (link)


Wow! I like this alot! Gonna read how it reeeaaallly works. Friendship networks are fascinating. Kind of like the patterns of bees pollinating flowers.

1. Mutual interests create them. Curiosity creates them. A drive to self-actualize through learning from others creates them....Inspiration creates....

2. Some are. Some aren't. My new LJ friends are more & less planned.

3. Time limits them to some degree. But I see no grounds for a size limit. The more the merrier!

4. I'm new to LJ so No. In real life...yes.

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documentation?
[info]cos
2004-03-23 02:45 pm UTC (link)
I followed all the links in "Learn More about MindMap", as well as the links on the mindmap site itself, and still haven't found any documention of these mindmaps. I understand that it has something to do with clusters of users with mutual friendships, but what do the colors mean? What do the sizes mean? What does the spatial arrangement of names mean? I ran across mindmap by seeing a friend's post asking these kinds of questions, and figured I could find the answers by looking at the site... but I couldn't.

I'd make a donation if I understood what I was getting :)

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-23 10:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cos, 2004-03-23 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-23 11:35 pm UTC
meme starts with "me"? - [info]xaminmo, 2005-10-08 06:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2005-10-08 10:09 pm UTC

[info]shadesong
2004-03-24 09:58 am UTC (link)
It won't generate one for me; I've tried twice. :(

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-24 12:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadesong, 2004-03-24 12:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-24 12:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadesong, 2004-03-24 12:41 pm UTC
I ended up here somehow, whilst trying to map my friends
[info]none_too_subtle
2004-03-24 05:01 pm UTC (link)
My friends find me (traditionally) through their friends. I think they friend me because they respect the common friend. Not sure. I've had many 'strangers' friend me from out of the blue. I don't always reciprocate; plus I've noticed if I 86 any 'friend' they go psycho.

EXPLAIN THAT! LOL :)

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-03-24 06:28 pm UTC
Ackkkkkk. Take two *blushes* - [info]none_too_subtle, 2004-03-24 07:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleccham, 2004-04-13 03:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleccham, 2004-04-13 03:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-13 03:33 pm UTC
No map for me :/
[info]rube
2004-04-05 02:39 pm UTC (link)
I've been waiting since March 23rd... Still no map. Is it broken or is it my b.o.?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-05 03:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-05 03:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 05:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 10:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 01:08 pm UTC
Rock and/or Roll - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 01:50 pm UTC
Shake, rattle and roll! - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 02:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 03:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 03:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 03:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 03:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 04:06 pm UTC
Thank you!!! - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 04:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 04:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 04:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 04:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 04:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 05:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 09:02 pm UTC
dynamic colors? - [info]rube, 2004-04-20 06:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 09:00 pm UTC
^_^ - [info]rube, 2004-04-27 09:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-27 01:29 pm UTC
This is completely unrelated, but: - [info]rube, 2004-05-02 09:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-02 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-05-07 10:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-08 07:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-05-09 07:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-10 07:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-05-10 08:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-10 07:46 pm UTC
:D - [info]rube, 2004-05-10 08:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-10 08:32 pm UTC
Update? - [info]rube, 2004-11-18 02:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-11-20 10:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-11-20 11:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-11-20 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rube, 2004-11-20 10:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-11-20 10:52 pm UTC
family tree generation - [info]darxus, 2004-10-29 09:47 pm UTC

[info]rowanf
2004-04-13 09:25 am UTC (link)
Thanks for doing the color map! I hadn't quite realized one clicks on a name and goes there. *laugh* Mine hasn't loaded more than about halfway in the last two+ hours of trying it though. Is that a server thing?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-13 10:22 am UTC

[info]fairyonfire
2004-04-14 11:07 pm UTC (link)
your friend [info]spoonfeeding knows my friend [info]hey_montana. and the reason i'm looking at this community is because i found it through [info]puffpastry, and i found her because she knows my friends [info]funkydoda and [info]rival (both of whom i know in real life and went to school with at one point, but i don't think they know each other). craziness, huh?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-15 11:16 am UTC

[info]kai_
2004-04-20 12:29 pm UTC (link)
What does it mean that one user has a box around her name in my mindmap?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-20 01:47 pm UTC

[info]ironed_orchid
2004-04-24 06:58 am UTC (link)
OK, I've read a few of the posts and comments on how the mind map works and I'm still a bit confused about a couple of things.

Mostly, I was very surprised to find that a person, namely [info]burkean, with whom I have 15 friends in common doesn't appear anywhere on my map (although his second journal, [info]deadauthor, which I had defriended before I ordered my map, is there). Several of the people in our group of mutual friends turns up in large font, so it seemed really strange that he should be absent.

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-25 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironed_orchid, 2004-04-25 09:31 am UTC

[info]my_ophelia
2004-04-26 09:57 am UTC (link)
When I originally signed up, I opted out for the paypal. Knowing how much work you're doing, and how cool this really is, I'd like to actually make a donation. How can I do so and at the same time bump myself up the list?

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[info]ringring
2004-04-27 08:59 am UTC (link)
I'm amazed by the fact you managed to place my boyfriend closest to me (even though he doesn't update his journal and I never told who he is), my other journal (which I kind of keep a secret), my best friend (both screen names), the girl I'm moving in with next week, my other good friend, the girl who knows one of my deepest darkest secrets...all of them in big letters and close to me. There were some in small type I though probably shouldn't have been, but that's amazing.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/circuscat/392006.html#cutid1

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[info]blue_jay
2004-04-29 12:40 am UTC (link)
Perhaps use http://www.bitpass.com/ for small donations?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-04-29 09:12 am UTC

[info]thrames
2004-05-15 05:51 am UTC (link)
Before I answer and comment and so on, I'd like to thank you for doing this; it is really cool and definitely an intellectual exercise. I applaud you for your efforts.

What factors do you think creates them?

Among them would be shared experiences, spirituality, politics, interests, curiousity, music, and things of that nature (cultural similarities, one might say). Another set of factors that might create the friendship networks are, as you suggested, shared locations which would lead to shared experiences (geographical proximity). Yet another factor might be people who have an interest in each other for reasons which have no apparent cause (emotional factors).

Are they ever planned?

I'd say usually, they aren't planned. Most people just sorta get together based on their shared goals, interests, etc. However, as humans are a weird species, some people might decide to round up people who share some criterion and form a group (a Livejournal Community searching through interest lists for potential members, for example).

Is there a limit to their potential size?

Only insomuch as a person can remember everyone they are friends with. There would be inherent differences, I would think. Using my own friendship network as an example: I like everyone who is on it, but there are notably more acquaintances on it than friends. Thus, I think close friends would definitely have limit, but acquaintances is only limited by how many people a person wishes to have some acquaintance with.

Have you experienced a whole group splitting apart?

Thankfully, not really. I'm still only 18, though, so that might change in the future.

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(no subject) - [info]thrames, 2004-05-15 05:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-15 07:57 am UTC

[info]_1ateniteovrdos
2004-05-17 09:42 am UTC (link)
do you remember when livejournal used to have friendship maps
they dont have it anymore but they did
i always wanted to know why they didnt anymore

i find this stuff fascinating

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This looks very interesting, but:
[info]alliecat76
2004-05-23 01:27 am UTC (link)
I am not sure how to get my map done! I have a crappy 56k connection, so it may very well be that I am overlooking a link or something buried in a graphic that my computer isn't loading. Or maybe I just have "special needs." LOL... Anyway, could you please point me toward the URL/link that I should be at to get started? All I get on the mindmap page is something that allows me to "search" (which I click on, and then nothing comes thru), or to make a donation. Am I missing something? Thanks :)

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-23 01:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alliecat76, 2004-05-23 01:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-23 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alliecat76, 2004-05-23 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gravija, 2004-05-31 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-31 07:07 pm UTC
MindMap suggestions
[info]dour
2004-05-24 11:49 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure it would bump up the processing time, but I've got a request for additional features within the MindMap. This is one of the coolest social analysis tools I've seen, with the potential for genuine research value, and it seems to me that it would be significantly niftier if it wasn't limited to mutual "friends."

My "Friends" list is the list of people whose journals I like to read. My "Friend Of" list is the list of people who like to read my journal. Neither group has a monopoly on social connectedness, but there is also no such monopoly for those in both groups! Just to take an example from my own lists: I have [info]ursulav listed among my friends. Once in a while she'll glance at my journal and leave a comment, but the stuff I post doesn't interest her enough to justify cluttering her friends page with stuff she's just going to skim past. But she and I exchange comments often, and sometimes at great length, on her journal. This, I think, should be represented in my MindMap, and in hers (if she ever gets one).

For this, I would propose that on my MindMap, a person who I have friended but who has not friended me should be represented in, say, an outline font; and a person who has friended me but who I have not friended should be listed in parentheses. Links between these people and the others already listed could then be analyzed. This could of course be limited to only the paid, "color" MindMaps (which, being the only ones with connecting lines, are the truly useful ones anyway).

More complex, and difficult to implement within the current visual model, would be friends-of-friends. I know, even just one layer of this would exponentiate processing time. But I have already personally encountered an instance where it would be meaningful data, especially in combination with the one-way linkings described above: [info]batratblue has friended both [info]chipuni and [info]ursulav, but is friended by only [info]chipuni. However, he and I have exchanged comments on both of those journals, despite having no friend links with each other whatsoever. I haven't looked at the in-depth description of how you gather your data, and I'm not sure if that kind of diffuse-but-notable linkage can even be collected from the data LJ publishes, but it sure would be cool. ;)

One last minor request: currently, MindMaps are GIFs, which makes the color ones rather ugly due to dithering. 24-bit PNG would work better.

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-25 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dour, 2004-05-25 09:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-26 03:37 am UTC
Re: MindMap suggestions - [info]alteredhistory, 2006-05-03 12:05 pm UTC

[info]devilshalo13
2004-05-30 05:28 am UTC (link)
i'm a dumbass and deleted the e-mail saying my map was ready because it showed up as spam. how can i get my map?

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(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-30 08:23 am UTC

[info]drexle
2004-05-30 05:30 pm UTC (link)
This is pretty interesting. I saw this mindmap in Shisochou's LJ, who found me a while back through Brandchan. Funny thing is that I actually knew Shisochou by a different name from a message forum(s?) a few years ago based around a common video game interest.

This is quite cool. I can't wait to see mine, even if it takes several months.

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(no subject) - [info]drexle, 2004-05-30 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcfnord, 2004-05-30 09:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]drexle, 2004-06-01 01:28 pm UTC
The math behind social network analysis
[info]poisonkitty
2004-05-31 02:43 am UTC (link)
Just, FYI, I recently found a fairly useful document that describes some of the math theory behind how social networks are explored and analyzed. People with a math background (set theory, graph theory, etc) may find this more useful than others.

http://www.analytictech.com/networks/graphtheorychap.doc

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[info]neo_otacon
2004-06-01 10:13 pm UTC (link)
I had no clue that this theory could be represented visually. Thank you for proving me wrong.

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[info]ocicat
2004-06-03 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Love the project... the inter-relationship web is one of the most interesting facets of LJ.

How often is the "big map" updated? I presume it uses the data from all the other mindmaps you've made, so it should be changing as more maps are created. But I also guess it probably takes a lot of computation, so you wouldn't want to do one frequently.

I was amused to find myself on the big map at all, then I found out that [info]metalmensch is your brother, and it somehow made more sense. I'm planning on ordering a color map, but first I need to get my paypal account straightened out...

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