The Rev. LiveJournal Oracle ([info]jameth) wrote in [info]uw,
@ 2004-10-29 11:08:00
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Hub lawn today

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[info]nordbyk
2004-10-29 06:09 pm UTC (link)
amazing huh?

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[info]faerievixen2
2004-10-29 06:12 pm UTC (link)
What was it for?

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[info]sytske
2004-10-29 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I believe it was in memory of the Iraqi civilians who have been killed. I think it was very effective. I took a picture too.

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[info]rollingstolen
2004-10-29 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Wouldnt they be Crescents then?

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(no subject) - [info]jameth, 2004-10-29 06:43 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]jameth
2004-10-29 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Then why are there names of US soldiers written on a few of the crosses?

I believe it is for all war deaths...

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[info]tbgoldman
2004-10-29 06:16 pm UTC (link)
are those crosses on display at a publicly funded university???? thats a violation of church and state. remove them all nooooooow!!!!!!

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[info]jameth
2004-10-29 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Lol i finally get a chance to use this icon

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[info]mantini
2004-10-29 10:20 pm UTC (link)
The HUB lawn is a public space where there are quite often Bush/Cheney, Kerry/Edwards, and other political signs, Mormon, Christian and other religous booths, as well as many other partisan/religious/whatever happenings. Its totally allowed, and in no way violates church and state. The University is not sponsoring the event, and its taking place on public grounds.

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(no subject) - [info]kazzman, 2004-10-30 06:03 am UTC (Expand)

[info]kayanna
2004-10-29 10:55 pm UTC (link)
that's tongue in cheek right?

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[info]rocza
2004-10-29 06:30 pm UTC (link)
Nice.
Wonder who did it? (I know the folks who tried to do one thru SCCC... kinda wonder if it's them...)

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Ok, I can respect that.
[info]mcpat
2004-10-29 06:38 pm UTC (link)
...as long as the artist doesnt say what it stands for and the lets the viewer jump to their own conclusion. I like that sort of stuff when it doesnt come with someone preaching to you about it.

And not to not follow my own advice: It makes me think about ALL the people that have died in this recent conflict. The soldiers that just wanted to do something for his country, the soldier that didnt want to fight, the civilians, and the musliums that felt so strngly they were willing to die for their cause. All of them are now nothing more then memories to the people they loved and that loved them. The question is what would you give your life for? what would you take a life for?

A few years ago my best friend died and that gave me the ability to empithise with all who die by un-natural causes on 'my' side and the other. So sad. But that is life.

Sorry to rant.

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[info]mmmgirl82
2004-10-29 06:38 pm UTC (link)
I watched them set it up this morning, it was pretty awsome.

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[info]jameth
2004-10-29 06:43 pm UTC (link)
same here

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(netiquette impaired)
[info]joshc
2004-10-29 07:36 pm UTC (link)
great photo! I mentioned this post on the seattle metroblogging site [metblog] along with a mirror of your photo (I hope that's o.k.).

Let me know if you'd like me to change the post to include a more explicit credit or a direct link to your photographs.

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Re: (netiquette impaired)
[info]jameth
2004-10-29 09:21 pm UTC (link)
You can link to my journal http://jameth.livejournal.com/ where i have more photos of this event

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[info]manonthemoo
2004-10-29 07:41 pm UTC (link)
yow! that's quite a feat. anyone know if they were torn down or left up?

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[info]amphiskios
2004-10-29 09:14 pm UTC (link)
Still up as of two minutes ago.

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[info]caraccident
2004-10-29 11:47 pm UTC (link)
They'll probably take it down tonight. I think they're doing something new each day to promote voting.

No one ever says this, but all the "VOTE" propaganda is clearly trying to get Bush out.

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(no subject) - [info]_defacto, 2004-10-30 10:07 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]seckzee
2004-10-29 09:45 pm UTC (link)
It was for the Veterans for Peace I think. They had a booth and there was an old guy giving a speech on a microphone and talking about how "this needs to stop".

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[info]caraccident
2004-10-29 11:44 pm UTC (link)
I cared more for the display yesterday of 6 or so actual tombstones (not crosses) saying the # of millions of animals slaughtered last year for food.

4 million sheep was the smallest number I believe, and at least one type of animal (cows, I imagine) were in the billions. 12.3 billion turkeys, I think.


But I like how no one cared. People would read them and look dumbfounded, then say "weird" in a really ditzy voice. And then I shot myself in the face.

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[info]caraccident
2004-10-29 11:45 pm UTC (link)
million turkeys*

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[info]clarice
2004-10-30 01:47 am UTC (link)
yeah, because nothing is more likely to make people listen than comparing human murders to the meat industry. Kudos on that tactic, assuming they were going for complete alienations of potential converts.

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[info]save_frodo
2004-11-02 05:34 am UTC (link)
You cared more about a bunch of animals slaughtered for food, than soldiers/civilians who died in a conflict directly involving the United States? Are you one of those people who says awwwww, when the dog gets killed in a movie, and could care less when a guy gets shot in the face?


"There's a place for all creatures of the earth - right next to my mashed potatoes."

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(no subject) - [info]caraccident, 2004-11-02 06:22 am UTC (Expand)

[info]adamforest
2004-10-30 03:34 am UTC (link)
People fight in wars. People die in wars.

The moment that we realize wars must sometimes be fought, and that people will inevitably die, we will probably understand this existence a lot better. And please don't tell me about Iraq. I'm talking the bigger picture here. Even if you are opposed to our current war, the mere claim that "because people die, wars are bad," doesn't really fit.

Here's a question to ponder. This sort of demonstration is intended to sway people into thinking that deaths in war prove that wars aren't worth fighting. Tell me, do you think that Middle Eastern citizens sympathetic to Osama bin Laden would heed this demonstration any better than your average anti-war activist here in America? I don't even need to ask.

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[info]jitterbean
2004-10-30 09:33 am UTC (link)
I don't understand your question.

I don't think death necessarily means war isn't worth fighting, though I do certainly disagree with this particular war. But when we forget, as I think the president did, that the price of war IS death, we are less likely to be cautious about waging it.

We were told this war would be over in a month. I always knew that couldn't be true, because no war is ever over for generations after it is fought (is the Civil War over? Not really), but because this war was supposed to be quick and easy, I don't think our leaders really thought about what the cost in human lives would be. This demonstration doesn't make me think "Is war ever worth it?" but rather, "Is this war worth it?" And that's a question that should be asked every time war is waged, and the answer had damned well better be an unequivocal YES before we go.

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