Below are the 13 most recent journal entries recorded in Seducers' LiveJournal:

Friday, March 4th, 2005
4:46 pm [femme_letale]	This a very interesting community. Let's reactivate it! What is your favorite seductive object? (11 Comments |Comment on this)
Monday, November 29th, 2004
1:53 am [david_deacon]	The Book Just wanted to add something to this group. I found out about the book a few weeks ago while on a business trip. From the excerpts I've read, it has a lot in common, in tone and style, with Greene's first book, which was sort of like Machiavelli meets Dale Carnegie. I'm very impressed with the level of the writing and the historical examples. Definitely not one of those smarmy How To Get Laid in Thirty Days type of book. (Comment on this)
Friday, April 23rd, 2004
3:12 am [maximillianhell]	My seduction journal is up. I am also on Cliff's List here and there. (Comment on this)
Thursday, August 21st, 2003
10:41 am [kmo]	Unity. Totality. Completion. A starting point. Good morning. (Or greetings appropriate to whatever time of day this message finds you.) Old patterns, entrenched patterns, die hard. Those who adhere to them die with them. And yet we remain free to let go of those limitations. One can tune into an inner voice, or perhaps not inner but something that seems to come from outside the self… a revelation… an epiphany. It doesn’t matter where it comes from. You don’t have to pinpoint the source. You don’t even have to pay attention. All you have to do is let it speak and feel the patterns of sound and syllable work their magic on the pathways of association, opinion, memory, and desire. As you let that happen, you may notice a sensation of warmth, lightness, as the barriers inside your mind melt away like so much ice. The more you forget to pay attention to this voice, the more you let go of trying to analyze or understand the changes taking place, the more you notice the fluidity of your thoughts, and feel at ease. ( Go Deeper ) Current Mood: energetic (4 Comments |Comment on this)
Thursday, December 13th, 2001
1:53 pm [vyus]	Misfire I was in line at Target last night buying Christmas cards, wrap, and whatnot. I picked a line behind a woman who was buying clothes. No ring on her finger, cute, probably around my age, and her demeanor became a bit more flustered after I arrived. She had trouble taking sweaters off the hangers, that sort of thing. She and the clerk were already discussing the merits of one of the sweaters, and without thinking (but after I decided I'd like to meet this woman) I said something witty - well, sort of witty. My version of witty in such a situation is a joke that could be construed as serious depending on the demeanor of the person saying it. And with people that don't know me, that seems to make them think, throw them out of their normal scripts and take a closer look at me. It worked, but the problem was it worked on the wrong person. The clerk immediately tried to visually attract my attention, and the other woman noticed, and soon she was gone. Of course, my response to the clerk is to smile and continue, so I bought my items while the gushing clerk pushed her face so close to mine I could have touched it and it would have seemed utterly natural. I still haven't quite decided if I can distill myself into a particular type according to the book, and I already do use some of the tactics - I just hadn't consciously attempted to organize them before. So I'm not sure what I was doing aside from playing a role they seemed to expect from me based on my appearance. But I now know I have to tailor some of my remarks to better aim at the proper target ;) (Comment on this)
Tuesday, December 11th, 2001
12:57 am [pjammer]	Seducer & Victim/Target Typology Poll #12757 Seducer & Victim Typology Open to: All, results viewable to: All What type of Seducer archetype best describes you? View Answers 1. The Siren 2 (3.7%) 2. The Rake 3 (5.6%) 3. The Ideal Lover 7 (13.0%) 4. The Dandy 7 (13.0%) 5. The Natural 8 (14.8%) 6. The Coquette 6 (11.1%) 7. The Charmer 10 (18.5%) 8. The Charismatic 7 (13.0%) 9. The Star 1 (1.9%) 10. The Anti-Seducer 3 (5.6%) What type of target/victim personality type do you most frequently pursue? View Answers 1. The Reformed Rake/Siren 2 (3.8%) 2. The Disappointed Dreamer 8 (15.1%) 3. The Pampered Royal 0 (0.0%) 4. The New Prude 2 (3.8%) 5. The Crushed Star 3 (5.7%) 6. The Novice 7 (13.2%) 7. The Conqueror 2 (3.8%) 8. The Exotic Fetishist 1 (1.9%) 9. The Drama Queen 3 (5.7%) 10. The Professor 5 (9.4%) 11. The Beauty 6 (11.3%) 12. The Aging Baby 0 (0.0%) 13. The Rescuer 4 (7.5%) 14. The Rou? 0 (0.0%) 15. Other (Idol Worshiper, Sensualist, Lonely Leader, Floating Gender) 10 (18.9%) Current Mood: contemplative (5 Comments |Comment on this)
Monday, December 10th, 2001
9:44 am [perspectivism]	questions as better than comments A friend recently found himself randomly chatting in an airport: I had a nice conversation with a woman about home remodeling, sudbury schools, and doctoring (she's a pediatrician, married w/kids). She seemed genuinely engaged, or was it just good bed-side manner? I think I ignored a couple of hints she'd injected as subtle requests to be released from the obligation of conversation so she could get back to reading her journals and pondering the fate of her out-grown home. I also could have done her more good by probing for the essence of her particular dilemma than I did by reflecting on her every issue with my own thoughts; I find the latter breeds disinterest if the thoughts don't strike a chord, and resentment if they do. But insightful questions are almost universally appreciated. (2 Comments |Comment on this)
Friday, December 7th, 2001
7:20 pm [perspectivism]	on the interconnectedness of excellence Scene: Dex hands Stu a stack of Eastern philosophy books... "I'm not looking for Enlightenment, Dex, I'm looking for a girlfriend." - Stu "It's all connected." - Dex The Tao of Steve (I happen to be watching this tonight for the first time!) (1 Comment |Comment on this)
Thursday, November 29th, 2001
4:03 pm [onesoul]	The sugary sweet parts of seduction are only eclipsed by the dramatic scary moments of falling so deeply into someone you can barely remember to breathe. I think overall the acts of seducing and being seduced are different for males and females. Unfortunately, the American culture would have us believe that men seducing women is a big bad thing. Where when a woman seduces it is either her being coy or downright sexy sexy. But being on both ends of the coin, it is some gray in between. Seduction takes on many forms and considering that I enjoy the topic on an intellectual level as well as personal, there is much to explore. I have never felt like a seducer... more an explorer of ideas, people and connections. For a long time, I resisted the label, but considering how beautiful the idea of seducing someone with ideas that help them become better people is changing a lot of that hesitation. Perhaps, I'm candy coating. Maybe seduction really is a down and dirty science of manipulation where people can only last so long. I mean they are burning on both ends, no doubt. But for someone like myself, it is more pure and yet extremely complex. How does one that watches and studies people specifically in the field of seduction allow themselves to be seduced as well as seduce other? Layer upon layer the power exchange begins to take form. I really believe the fun begins when a seducer themselves knows they are being seduce and dives in anyway. (3 Comments |Comment on this)
1:26 am [perspectivism]	charter I've now created this community and composed its "About" section. I'm open to any rewrite suggestions that leap out. (2 Comments |Comment on this)
1:12 am [perspectivism]	temptation! Temptation is a twofold process. First you are coquettish, flirtatious; you stimulate a desire by promising pleasure and distraction from daily life. At the same time, you make it clear to your targets that they cannot have you, at least not right away. You are establishing a barrier, some kind of tension. In days gone by the barriers were easy to create, by taking advantage of preexisting social obstacles -- of class, race, marriage, religion. Today the barriers have to be more psychological: your heart is taken by somebody else; you are really not interested in the target; some secret holds you back; the timing is bad; you are not good enough for the other person; the other person is not good enough for you; and so on. Conversely, you can choose someone who has a built-in barrier: they are taken, they are not meant to want you. [...] the more you make your targets pursue you, the more they imagine that it is they who are the aggressors. (tAoS, pp. 233-4) (2 Comments |Comment on this)
1:06 am [perspectivism]	hint, hint... Then she asked him to forget what she had said and forgive her for saying it, a key insinuating tactic: "I am asking you to forget what I have said, but I know that you cannot; the thought will remain in your mind." [...] People have their own sets of ideas, which are hardened into stone by habit; your words, entering their minds, compete with the thousands of preconceived notions that are already there, and get nowhere. Besides, people resent your attempt to persuade them, as if they were incapable of deciding by themselves -- as if you knew better. Consider instead the power of insinuation and suggestion. It requires some patience and art, but the results are more than worth it. (tAoS, pp.215-6) (1 Comment |Comment on this)
12:59 am [perspectivism]	cold criticism From the incomparable The Art of Seduction (hereinafter, "tAoS"), pp. 206-7: The number of women, and of men, who fell under Lawrence's spell is astonishing given how unpleasant he could be. In almost every case the relationship began in friendship -- with frank talks, exchanges of confidences, a spiritual bond. Then, invariably, he would suddenly turn against them, voicing harsh personal criticisms. He would know them well by that time, and the criticisms were often quite accurate, and hit a nerve. This would inevitably trigger confusion in his victims, and a sense of anxiety, a feeling that something was wrong with them. Jolted out of their usual sense of normality, they would feel divided inside. With half of their minds they wondered why he was doing this, and felt he was unfair; with the other half, they believed it was all true. Then, in those moments of self-doubt, they would get a letter or a visit from him in which he was his old charming self. Now they saw him differently. Now they were weak and vulnerable, in need of something; and he would seem so strong. Now he drew them to him, feelings of friendship turning into affection and desire. Once they felt uncertain about themselves, they were susceptible to falling in love. Most of us protect ourselves from the harshness of life by succumbing to routines and patterns, by closing ourselves off from others. But underlying these habits is a tremendous sense of insecurity and defensiveness. We feel we are not really living. The seducer must pick at this wound and bring these semiconscious thoughts into full awareness. (1 Comment |Comment on this)