secularhumanism: New rule: Don't talk about Nietzsche unl

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d2jday) wrote in

secularhumanism,
@ 2004-03-18 08:20:00

New rule: Don't talk about Nietzsche unless you've actually read/remember the motherfucker.

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	gentlesatyr 2004-03-18 02:46 pm UTC (link)
	I read more of him than I cared to. And he's still overrated. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rakehell 2004-03-18 05:39 pm UTC (link)
	Which philosophers do you prefer to him? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	gentlesatyr 2004-03-18 05:43 pm UTC (link)
	Epictetus, Wittgenstein, Descartes, Feyerabend...and anyone who doesn't propagate a philosophy that is completely impractical and unsustainable. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	d2jday 2004-03-18 06:07 pm UTC (link)
	Descartes?! are you fucking kidding me? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	xeroxchamp 2004-03-18 02:46 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. I like this rule. (Reply to this)

	upaya 2004-03-18 02:48 pm UTC (link)
	Im going to go out on a limb and guess that you have taken Solomon's existentialism class. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	d2jday 2004-03-18 04:53 pm UTC (link)
	actually, the regret i had upon graduation was not taking his class... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	upaya 2004-03-18 05:01 pm UTC (link)
	That was one of the best classes I took while at UT. I coulndt take Higgins' class on Nietzsche because the one time she offered it while i was there it was at the same time as Solomon's class. She's teaching it as a senior seminar this semester, and its killing me that I'm not in school anymore. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	sbrink 2004-03-18 03:02 pm UTC (link)
	haha, I like that rule. I will talk to thedoctor9 we can put it in the community info. (Reply to this)

	gravity999 2004-03-18 03:30 pm UTC (link)
	Man, have a lot of problems with that around here? I remember the guy, he likes sourkraut. (Reply to this)

	wespennest 2004-03-18 03:32 pm UTC (link)
	Or unless you're referencing "The Dungeon Room Scene" from Monty Python's Meaning of Life. (Reply to this)(Thread)

diego001
2004-03-18 04:10 pm UTC (link)

MRS. HENDY: Oh! I never knew Schopenhauer was a philosopher!
MR. HENDY: Oh, yeah! He's the one that begins with an 'S'.
MRS. HENDY: Oh.
MR. HENDY: Umm, like, uh, 'Nietzsche'.
MRS. HENDY: Does 'Nietzsche' begin with an 'S'?
MR. HENDY: Uh, there's an 's' in 'Nietzsche'.
MRS. HENDY: Oh, wow. Yes, there is. Do all philosophers have an 's' in them?
MR. HENDY: Uh, yeah! I think most of 'em do.

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wespennest
2004-03-18 04:21 pm UTC (link)

MRS. HENDY:
Oh. Does that mean Selina Jones is a philosopher?
MR. HENDY:
Yeah! Right! She could be! She sings about the meaning of life.
MRS. HENDY:
Yeah. That's right, but I don't think she writes her own material.
MR. HENDY:
No. Oh, maybe Schopenhauer writes her material.
MRS. HENDY:
No. Burt Bacharach writes it.
MR. HENDY:
But there's no 's' in 'Burt Bacharach'.
MRS. HENDY:
Or in 'Hal David'.
MR. HENDY:
Who's Hal David?
MRS. HENDY:
He writes the lyrics. Burt just writes the tunes, only now, he's married to Carole Bayer Sager.
MR. HENDY:
Oh, waiter. This conversation isn't very good.
WAITER:
Oh, I'm sorry, sir! Uhh, we do have one today that's not on the menu. It's sort of a specialty of the house, you know.
MR. HENDY:
Oh, yes.
WAITER:
'Live Organ Transplants'.

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	d2jday 2004-03-18 04:55 pm UTC (link)
	brilliant... (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nymphetamine_ 2004-03-18 04:39 pm UTC (link)
	that's so true. I know Nietzsche, so i can talk about his crazyass (Reply to this)

	purgatoryreject 2004-03-18 04:53 pm UTC (link)
	Same goes for Ayn Rand. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	pyrrhonic_pout 2004-03-18 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	Ayn Rand failed miserably at doing her whole life what Nietzsche did in the last quarter of his philosophical career. Sure she is influential for a sect of college freshmen, but wouldnt we be better off if the Randians all read Nietzsche instead? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

nonbeing
2004-03-18 10:33 pm UTC (link)

I'm a former Randian/present Nietzschean. I did abandon much of objectivism's fundamental ontological commitments once my God died. However, I have to admit that I am glad I was thoroughly immersed in Rand before I ever picked up a book by her German precursor, since I was hence able to deconstruct objectivism through Nietzsche and decide what to keep and what to toss.

I agree, though, hers is a philosophy for the young and idealistic. Just kill the idealism and you have something much more workable.

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	d2jday 2004-03-18 11:12 pm UTC (link)
	rand started out as a nietzschean, no? and more importantly, isn't she more influential for wanna-be gordon gekkos? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	thedoctor9 2004-03-18 04:58 pm UTC (link)
	I concur... also, same for the Bible, or the Constitution of the US... Now I, on the other hand, am happy to spout off about any old thing... hehe (Reply to this)(Thread)

	d2jday 2004-03-18 06:05 pm UTC (link)
	hahahaha, right on (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pyrrhonic_pout 2004-03-18 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	Great rule. I had almost this exact rule posted in my apartment's foyer for about a year, until my then-partner insisted I take it down. (It went up after a funny argument we had over that great lover of jesus, if not of paul; the rule went like "Don't cite Nietzche in an argument unless you have read Nietzsche first.") I put up a picture of James Dean instead, heh. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	d2jday 2004-03-18 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	the only christian that ever lived died on the cross... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	gentlesatyr 2004-03-19 01:08 pm UTC (link)
	That's just silly. And a linguistic mistake. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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inkfarts
2005-12-13 11:36 pm UTC (link)

nietzsche is like a starbucks cup.. quotes and all.

i made that mistake once in class when i advocated a dance competition for the last day of the course, since it is a part of philosophical imperitive.. according to mister N. my teacher played The Humble Philosopher about it though.. he noted, "i'd think that was after he contracted syphilis."

we all learn, eventually. that sort of rule probably won't have much of an effect until the perpetrator finds a really, really good reason not to quote someone that'll make them feel powerful.. or whatever.

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