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Training Day, Part 1 (air date Oct 20, 2004)

Training Day

Part 1

(September 19, 2004)

Written by: Masquerade

Teaser

EXT. NIGHT CLUB - NIGHT - STOCK - ESTABLISHING

People lined up at the door showing ID's to get in. When the club doors open, the music pours out and it's LOUD.

INT. NIGHT CLUB - NIGHT

Dimly lit. Colored strobes flashing. A funky unrecognizable house-techno-hip-hop tune is playing. The dance floor is PACKED.

We start with a LONG OVERHEAD CRANE SHOT of the dance floor - bouncing heads. Slowly we PULL IN until we focus on one lone dancer.

It's FAITH. Squeezed into the crowd, she is in her own world, eyes closed, arms up and bent at the elbows, hair flying, hips gyrating. She's wearing tight black jeans and a crimson-red tank top that shows off her ample cleavage.

As the music crescendos, she spins across the floor. She's grinning, grooving, her body shamelessly brushing against and eyes brazenly grazing over the sweat-sheened bodies of the men around her. Then one CUTE HUNKY GUY in particular catches her attention.

Faith halts in front of him and does a nasty little shake-and-shimmy just for him. He smiles in eager embarrassment. Faith dances her way up to him and runs her hands over his shoulders and chest. Cute Hunky Guy puts his hands firmly on her waist. Faith grins, writhing in his arms.

Suddenly, we see something flashing on Faith's belt. Faith doesn't notice it. She's all eyes for Cute Hunky Guy. Cute Hunky Guy pulls her up closer to himself.

Then he leans in near her ear.

CUTE HUNKY GUY
You're flashing.

Faith gives him a sexy smirk. Shakes her hair back off her shoulders.

FAITH
Yeah?

CUTE HUNKY GUY
Your beeper's going off.

Faith stares at him a moment, disoriented, then glances down at her waist.

Sure enough.

She unlatches her beeper, looks at the phone number on the display, and scowls. Then she gives Cute Hunky Guy another grin.

FAITH
Excuse me a sec.

Faith leaves, squeezing her way past the other dancers. Cute Hunky Guy watches her go.

CUTE HUNKY GUY
No problem.

INT. THE ENTRANCE TO THE NIGHT CLUB BACK HALLWAY - NIGHT

The camera slowly makes it way down the dim-lit back hallway, past men and women lined up together for the two toilet stalls, then past a newspaper rack, then a CIGARETTE MACHINE.

It stops at the end of the hall, where a PUBLIC PHONE hangs in the tight little space between the cigarette machine and the fire exit. There is graffiti on the wall with phone numbers and advice about who to call for a good time.

Faith is ignoring all that. She has one hand clutching the cigarette machine. The other is gripping the receiver. She is not happy.

FAITH
(shouting over the music)
You paged me because Michelle and
Stephanie are fighting?

Faith paces a little. She rolls her eyes.

FAITH
They're Slayers. Slayers fight
sometimes.
(she shrugs to no one)
It works off the tension.
Let them slug it out.

She stops her pacing. Now she's just annoyed.

FAITH
(with hand gestures to match)
Jesus. Fine. Whatever.
I'll be there in half an hour.

She hangs up. Turns. Stares at the cigarette machine longingly. Runs her hand through her hair with exasperation.

FAITH
Christ, when did I become
the grown-up?

BLACK OUT.

END OF TEASER



Opening Credits

The theme song plays as we see images of




CONNOR REILLY walking to classes, killing a vampire

starring

Vincent Kartheiser

FAITH THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, fighting in a TRAINING ROOM with Connor

Eliza Dushku

and REPORTER AIDEN WALSH, pulling his CAMERA away from his face.

and

Sean Maher

Act One

with special guest stars

Indigo
Randall Slavin



EXT. OFFICE BUILDING - DAY - ESTABLISHING

It's older, off-white, circa 40's, 50's. Four floors of leased office space.

On the outside wall near the front door is a small marquee with the names of the current tenants, including -

1. Adaptive Technology Services, Inc.
2. Silver Lake Fitness Training
3. Harvey Personnel Temps
4. Market Research Associates


INT. OFFICE BUILDING - A SECOND FLOOR OFFICE

This, we soon discover, is FAITH'S OFFICE. COMMAND CENTRAL of the SLAYER COUNCIL HEADQUARTERS OF NORTH AMERICA, be they ever so humble.

Faith's office is sparse and utilitarian - pretty much a desk and a padded office chair, some creaky wooden chairs for visitors, and a single tall metal bookshelf with a few scattered volumes on it. The walls are empty. Faith tries very hard not to live here.

But SHE IS HERE today, seated at her desk, talking on the PHONE. She looks like a weary, harassed office worker.

FAITH
...November tenth.

Faith jots that down on her wrinkled, much graffitied desk-blotter.

Then she leans forward.

FAITH
O.K.
Who? I can't--
(she sighs)
All right.
O.K.--when?
Hello?

After a moment, Faith hangs up. She stares at the phone. Grouchy.

A FIGURE appears in the doorway.

GIRL (O.S.)
Who was that?

FAITH
(still staring at the phone, scowling)
My arch-nemesis.

The young woman strolls into the room. She's African-American, and dressed casually in a T-shirt and jeans. Her name is RONA.

RONA
Buffy again, huh?

Faith looks up. As she does, she slumps back in her chair.

FAITH
Friggin' control freak.
She doesn't trust me to run things.

RONA
What is it this time?

FAITH
A delegation from the Slayer Council
is gonna be here in three weeks.

RONA
To do what?

FAITH
I don't know. What do "delegations" do?

RONA
Delegate?

FAITH
I don't have a clue.

Her fingers drum on the desktop.

FAITH
...She might have been giving me the details,
I'm not sure. The connection was crappy.
Honestly, though? I think she was
trying to freak me out.

Faith sits up and leans forward. Enough of that topic.

FAITH
So are the girls all here yet?

RONA
(chuckling)
Of course not.

FAITH
(glancing at her watch)
Well, we start in half an hour, regardless.
Whoever's late can clean up the training room.

RONA
(grinning)
You like this power thing, don't you?

FAITH
(nodding)
It's kind of a rush.

Just then, a new FIGURE appears in the doorway. Rona turns to see who it is, and the look on her face is dubious.

But Faith breaks into a big-ass grin.

FAITH
Wee-ell. Superboy!

CUT TO - CONNOR, standing with his hands in his jacket pockets.

CONNOR
(embarrassed)
Hey.
I hope you don't mind me stopping by.
I called you, but--

FAITH
(getting out of her chair)
I know, I didn't call you back.
Sorry.

Faith comes around the desk.

FAITH
Rona, this is Connor.

CONNOR
(waving)
Hi.

FAITH
Rona's sort of my second-in-command.

RONA
(looking at her)
Sort of?

FAITH
Well, you know this place is thrown
together with spit and Kleenex.
It's not like anything's official.
(she gestures at Connor)
Connor's the guy I was telling you about.
The one I met out on patrol a couple
weeks ago.

Rona gives Connor a skeptical once-over.

FAITH
(to Connor)
So what's up?

CONNOR
I've been thinking about your offer.
(he glances at Rona)
Back in the diner?

Faith sits down on the corner of her desk. She looks much more comfortable like this.

FAITH
You said you weren't interested.

CONNOR
Yeah, um--I just...I've had some
trouble lately.

FAITH
"Trouble"?

CONNOR
(glancing down briefly)
Vampires.
A couple weeks ago, I got jumped in an alley.
I killed one, the other got away.
Now I guess there's a group of them out
there that don't like me. I think the one I
killed was their leader.

FAITH
(chuckling)
Funny, that. You never know if that's
gonna make them happy or extra-homicidal.

RONA
(interested)
Sounds like they're a sect...or a cult.
Or maybe a family or something.

CONNOR
(shrugging)
I guess.

RONA
(to Faith)
Which means they probably have a
central nest.

Now Rona has FAITH'S ATTENTION.

FAITH
(thoughtful)
Oh, right, what you were talking
about the other day.

RONA
(enthusiastically)
Yeah. A daytime raid on a vamp nest.
Meg, Julie, Michelle, and Tushka--
They're all ready for a major
field test.

CONNOR
Um--

FAITH
Sounds like a plan to me.

RONA
(to Connor)
So who are these guys, anyway?
What do you know about them?

CONNOR
(awkward)
Um....
"These guys" are after me.

Faith raises her eyebrows. All business.

FAITH
You and a lot of other people.
(off his perturbed expression)
Connor, this is what we do.
Slay the bad guys.
"Help the helpless."

CONNOR
(defensively)
I'm not "helpless."
I can protect myself.

RONA
(amused)
Yeah? Then why are you here?

Connor says nothing to that. He slowly turns his attention back to Faith.

FAITH
(calmly)
Rona, I offered to talk to him about
his fighting technique.
(to Connor)
Which we can do.
But dude--look, no offense, but you've
only been fighting since April.
You can't come in here and tell me a whole
nest of vampires is after you and expect
me to just train you up. If I was gonna go
after these vamps, it'd be a full raiding party
with only my most experienced girls.

Connor crosses his arms, gazing at Faith with a defensive wrinkle to his brow.

FAITH
Trust me, I've seen crap like this before
and it never goes like you expect it to.

RONA
She's right.

CONNOR
(coolly)
I have experience.

Rona turns on him.

RONA
(scoffing)
You think so, huh?

CONNOR
(not even blinking)
I could take you.

Rona laughs.

RONA
Prove it!

FAITH
(leaping off the desk)
Whoa. Guys. Cool out.

Rona turns towards Faith.

RONA
Oh, c'mon!
(she jabs a thumb at Connor)
If he wants to play Slayer,
(she looks back to him)
let him take on a Slayer.
(to Connor)
We have a training room down the hall.
Lots of nice, soft mats on the floor for
when you fall on your ass.

She nods towards the door. Connor glances down the hallway. Then he turns back and sees Rona's challenging expression. There's a struggle in his face--reluctance and indignity. Finally he frowns, then turns and starts down the hall.

FAITH
Connor!

But he's gone.

FAITH
(low, in warning)
Rona....

RONA
You said this guy's got supernatural
strength and he knows how to fight.
(she holds out her hands)
So I can't hurt him.
(she grins)
Much.

With that, she turns and starts down the hallway after Connor -

who has just arrived at the TRAINING ROOM DOOR, following the murmur of voices.

INT. THE TRAINING ROOM - DAY

A large room with a MIRROR that spans the far wall from floor to ceiling. Along the other walls are TRAINING EQUIPMENT--weight machines, heavy punching bags, padded sparring platforms. The exterior wall also has four windows, each with white blinds that are down and shut. Most of the floor is covered with LARGE BLUE MATS.

And about TWENTY TEENAGED GIRLS, standing and sitting around the room, staring at Connor curiously.

CONNOR
(waving lamely)
Uh--hi.

Before anyone can do anything else, Rona pushes past Connor and walks out onto the mats, one hand on her hip, the other dangling coolly.

RONA
O.K., guys.
We're gonna start today's session out with a
little demonstration.
(she nods at Connor)
What do you say?

Connor looks around at all the uncertain but curious female faces.

CONNOR
Uh....

He's sort of stuck.


CONNOR
(lifting his chin, smiling a tiny confident smile)
O.K.

Slowly, Connor unzips his jacket, shrugs it off, and lets it drop to the side of the mat. He stands there uncertainly.

The girls watch, curious. Rona glances around at them.

RONA
Oh.
This is Connor.

At that, she raises her arms at the elbows and bends her legs at the knees. She beckons Connor forward with come-hither fingers. She's ready. Bring it on.

Connor eyes her for a moment, then saunters towards her a few steps. Suddenly, he veers to the side so that he's walking around her. Circling. His eyes grow INTENT, like a hunter sizing up his prey.

The girls lean in to each other and murmur.

FAITH appears in the doorway. She's all ready to say something, but the sight on the mat shuts her up. She folds her arms and leans against the door frame, looking curious and expectant.

CLOSE-UP on Rona as she tracks Connor's circle. His predatory expression is unnerving her a bit, but she doesn't back down for a second. Her posture is tense, alert.

Suddenly, Connor LUNGES TOWARDS her, then STOPS. Rona stumbles back a few steps, her fists lashing out.

The girls giggle nervously.

Connor smiles and relaxes his posture. Then he starts walking in a slow, wide circle again. Rona's arms drop down beside her hips. She's got her cool back. She tracks Connor with unimpressed attitude.

RONA
(taunting)
What are you afraid of?

Connor says nothing.

RONA
You afraid to hurt a girl?
(a condescending smile)
...Or are you afraid of getting hurt?

Connor steps towards her again, but he's taking his time. Rona resumes her semi-crouched position.

GIRL FROM THE CROWD
I think they're both afraid.

The voice behind Connor makes him turn his head.

Rona closes the gap between them and hurls an awkward jab at his face. Connor's face SNAPS with the force of it. He staggers back. But luckily for his ego, he stays on his feet.

The girls cheer and jeer.

Connor slowly turns back around, rubbing a sore jaw. He inhales deeply, eyeing Rona. She's a Slayer, all right. And she's smirking at him. She holds her hands up in a mocking "Did I do that?" shrug.

Connor shifts his weight back and forth a little, deliberating.

Rona sighs impatiently.

RONA
(under her breath)
Screw this.

She LAUNCHES HERSELF at him and hits him again, this time in the gut. On reflex, Connor SLAMS BACK, punching her in the face.

THE CROWD
Oh!

Rona's hand clamps on her cheek. She backs off a step, her eyes an uncertain turmoil. The boy really does have some power.

VARIOUS GIRLS
C'mon Rona!
C'mon!

Connor tenses. Rona steps in again, fists raised, her expression nervous. With a grunt, she takes aim at him, pummeling whatever her fists hit.

Connor pushes her away with both hands, then hauls back and DECKS her across the face. His eyes widen with concern as she stumbles backwards.

But Rona recovers quickly. The two of them eye each other for a few beats.

Finally, Faith pushes herself up from the wall restlessly. The VOICE OF THE WOMAN IN CHARGE draws the attention of the girls.

FAITH
All right guys.
You're pulling your punches.
If you're gonna fight, let's see what you got.

When they hear what she has to say, the girls look back expectantly at the CENTER RING.

Rona eyes Connor with carefully controlled irritation. Now she's embarrassed herself in front of the boss. It's time to put this jerk down.

She dances towards him slowly, then with lightening-fast strokes, punches him HARD in the larynx and then the forehead. Connor's head snaps back. His feet clamber for balance. He throws his weight forward to keep from falling and grabs reflexively for his throat. Then he stops in his tracks, coughing spastically, slightly bent over. He looks up at her. There's venom in his eyes now.

RONA
(enthusiastic)
Yeah....
C'mon.

Connor's lip curls. The look in his eyes is feral. He skips towards her and delivers a round-house kick to her face that KNOCKS her square in the jaw. Rona stumbles but manages to stay on her feet.

The girls are up on their knees and feet now, avid, shouting. Here's a fight worth watching! Faith observes from the doorway with restrained concern.

With a tinge of fear in her eyes, Rona charges Connor and grabs his head. She viciously BUTTS his forehead with her own. The girls wince and cringe. Connor staggers back again. His face is showing signs of the struggle now--a red mark on his forehead, another on his Adam's apple. His eyes look disoriented.

Rona grins.

RONA
(gasping)
You ready to stop now, boy?
'Cause we can keep going 'til you're on the floor.

Connor smiles grimly. He charges her and gives her a back-handed elbow to the face. Rona responds with a knee to the gut. There's a drop of blood under one of her nostrils.

The girls are murmuring again, anxiously.

Faith steps forward.

FAITH
O.K., guys, let's cool off a bit. Step back.

But neither of them is listening. Rona wipes her nose on the back of her hand and lunges at Connor, determined to "knock him on his ass" the old-fashioned way--with brute-force weight. Connor bends his knees, grabs her, and HEAVES her over his shoulder.

The girls giggle. Rona rolls into a somersault and is back up on her feet in a second. She turns. The girls cheer. Connor eyes her, crouching, waiting.

Faith has gone back to watching again. Her expression is pensive curiosity.

Rona charges Connor again. Connor stumbles back. Then he throws his weight back on one foot and KICKS HER HARD in the chest.

Rona HURTLES BACK through the air. The girls scramble and duck.

Rona hits the wall, first ass, then shoulders, then head. *Crack*

GIRLS
(flinching)
Oh!

Rona falls to the floor.

BLACK OUT.

END OF ACT ONE

Act Two

INT. THE TRAINING ROOM - DAY

Rona is on the wood laminate floor, back slumped against the wall, legs stretched out in front of her. All we get from her for a second is a soft groan of pain. Her mouth hangs open as she rides it out.

Finally, her lips very distinctively and silently say,

RONA
Fuck.

Connor rushes forward.

Rona stares up. The look in her eyes says, back off, man. Connor stops. His expression is uncertain, apologetic.

Faith pushes past him and kneels at Rona's side.

FAITH
You O.K.?

Rona sits up, wincing and groaning.

RONA
(irritably)
I'm fine.

She lets Faith help her to her feet. She scowls at Connor. Connor forces a weak smile.

GIRL IN THE CROWD
C'mon, Rona, you're not going to let him
get away with that!

Connor's eyes dart over the crowd, trying to pick out who spoke.

RONA
(eyes still on Connor)
Not after my tailbone recovers.

Faith shakes her head.

FAITH
I think we've had enough
entertainment for today.

The girls groan with disappointment.

GIRL IN THE CROWD
The honor of the Slayers is at stake!

ANOTHER GIRL
Yeah, who is this guy, anyway?

FAITH
You can ask him that yourself while you warm up.

Faith searches the crowd for someone. She spots her. A girl with short blonde hair.

FAITH
Julie?

She nods JULIE to the front of the room, then claps her hands, loud.

FAITH
C'mon! Weapons training in ten minutes!

Faith heads towards the back door.

FAITH
Rona, help me?

Rona follows, snatching one more backward glance at Connor.

RONA
(to Connor)
She just saved your ass.

Connor watches her go with a wrinkled brow. Then he turns back around.

Suddenly, it's just him and the Slayers.

JULIE
O.K., guys, pick a spot to stretch out!

They're milling around Connor. Closing in on him.

Connor's POV - GIRLS. Cute, female, in a variety of sizes and colors. A RED-HEAD, A LATINA, AN ASIAN GIRL, A BRUNETTE GIRL.... Connor eyes them all warily.

Then the red-head, MICHELLE, walks up to him and looks him in the eye like a challenge.

MICHELLE
O.K., how'd you do that?
Fight her like that?

LATINA (THERESA)
Are you a Slayer?

Connor backs off a step, only to find more girls BEHIND HIM as well.

He shrugs, grinning shyly.

ASIAN GIRL (MISHA)
He's not a Slayer. He's a guy.

MICHELLE
(looking at Misha)
Oh, you know for a fact that every
Slayer's been a girl.

A MOUSY-BROWN-HAIRED GIRL steps forward - SANDY.

SANDY
Yes. The Watchers kept records.

MICHELLE
(eyes back on Connor)
I think he's a vampire.

THERESA
(rolling her eyes)
He's not a vampire.

Michelle walks over to one of the windows. She fingers the cord on the blinds and eyes Connor. Connor shrugs.

She TUGS THE CORD. The blinds SNAP UP. Sunlight falls over Connor, bathing him in light.

INT. HALLWAY OUTSIDE THE TRAINING ROOM - DAY

Faith has a set of keys. She unlocks a CLOSET DOOR at the near end of the hall.

RONA exits the training room. Sees Faith. Stalks over to her.

RONA
O.K., who is that guy?

Faith opens the closet door.

FAITH
I don't know.

ANGLE on the open closet door. It's an ordinary closet, but hanging inside of it are extraordinary things--swords, knives, spears, axes, crossbows, quarterstaffs, throwing stars, slings, clubs, darts, and up on the top shelf -

Faith brings down a giant plastic tub and sets it on the floor. She snaps the lid off.

STAKES. A LOT OF THEM.

RONA
(concerned)
Well, don't you wanna know?
I mean, why's he so strong, anyway?

Faith starts grabbing stakes. She gives them to Rona.

FAITH
He says he doesn't know.

RONA
And you believe him?

Faith stops. Looks Rona in the eye.

FAITH
I don't know what to believe.
Which is exactly why he's here.
If there's someone running around
L.A. who can fight like him,
I want to keep an eye on them.

RONA
(grudging)
Yeah, well, I hear that.

Then the concern returns to her face.

RONA
Didn't you say he'd only been fighting
since April?

Faith resumes collecting stakes.

FAITH
That's what he told me.

RONA
(taking stakes)
Yeah, well, I'm thinking he
"told you" a lot of stuff.
Doesn't make it true.

FAITH
No it doesn't.

RONA
The guy creeps me out.

Faith finishes handing her the stakes. She snaps the lid back on the tub and stands up.

FAITH
Don't you think part of that is the fact
that he managed to drop you before
you dropped him?

She picks up the carton off the floor and turns towards the closet.

FAITH
Admit it. It bugs you.
You've just gotten used to the idea
that there's not a guy alive who can
take you.

Faith puts the tub back on the top shelf.

RONA
(incensed)
He didn't "take" me.

Faith turns back around, smirking.

RONA
(eyes narrowing)
But it's not just that.
How do we know he really is
just a "guy"?

FAITH
I guess we don't.
For now.

Faith shuts the closet door and locks it. Then she holds out her hands to take back some of the stakes.

FAITH
You know that roll you did after he
flipped you?

RONA
(grinning and dumping stakes into Faith's hands)
Hah! That was cool.

FAITH
We're gonna show the newbies how to do
that today--and the other moves we've
been practicing--

She raises a stake in one hand and grins.

FAITH
--with one hand occupied.

It's Rona's turn to smirk.

RONA
I'm not even going to touch that one.

FAITH
And the other girls? The ones you're
thinking of sending on that raid?
They should be able to do all of it
right the first time, or they aren't going.

RONA
What about--what's his name?

FAITH
Connor?
I just want to see how he does.

Rona nods.

INT. TRAINING ROOM - DAY

Connor is still standing with the girls around him, although the conversation has shifted.

MICHELLE
Did you know she used to be in prison?
...For murder?

She gives him a scandalized look.

MICHELLE
Broke out.

Connor's expression is puzzled, thoughtful.

SANDY
The Slayer Council fixed her record
with magic.
Or computers.
(puzzled)
Or they did magic on computers,
I'm not sure.

CUT TO the DOOR OF THE TRAINING ROOM. Rona and Faith return, each with TWO HANDFULS OF STAKES.

FAITH
Hey, guys, you're supposed to be
warming up!

JULIE
They won't stop talking to Slayer-boy.

CONNOR
It's Connor.

MISHA
(quite pleased with herself and the others)
We're calling him "Slayer-boy."

FAITH
Hey, Connor.

He looks. She tosses a stake at him.

FAITH
Ever use a stake?

Connor catches it easily.

FAITH
(to all the girls)
Move it. Now.

She waves Connor to the back of the room.

JULIE
C'mon you guys.

The girls all file into positions on the mats. Julie sits down on the floor and starts stretching out one leg. The girls slowly follow suit.

Connor walks over to Faith, stake in hand.

CONNOR
Once or twice.
I killed that vampire a few weeks ago.

FAITH
Are you up for some training?

Connor looks at Faith, then around at the girls.

CONNOR
With them?

FAITH
Yeah, with them.

Connor shrugs.

CONNOR
O.K.


INT. TRAINING ROOM - DAY

[Cue up some not-too-lame pop song as we FADE INTO a MONTAGE OF IMAGES:]

Slayers standing, bending, stretching, warming up. Connor joins them, looking a bit uncomfortable.

Slayers one by one accepting stakes from Rona and Faith.

Slayers practicing over-hand punches, stakes in hand. Between his own practice punches, Connor watches them, the DETERMINATION on their faces.

Slayers (and Connor) doing spin-kicks, clutching stakes. Faith's girls are pretty good. Oooh, except SANDY, who loses her balance.

Rona demonstrating a fall-and-roll, a stake in her hand.

Slayers (and Connor) falling into a roll, sans stake. Most do this pretty well.

Slayers (and Connor) falling into a roll, clutching their stakes. A couple drop their stakes rather than accidentally impale themselves.

The music fades as Faith walks over to demonstrate the next move on Connor.

FAITH
The next thing we're going to
practice is the choke-hold.

She stands behind Connor and wraps a slim, toned arm around his neck. Her right hand clings loosely to this throat. Connor stiffens slightly.

FAITH
I want you to try both doing a
choke-hold and breaking out of a
chokehold with your weapon in one hand.

She holds up her stake in her left hand as a visual aid. Connor turns his head to look at it, which brings his face very close to Faith's. His gaze slides over her pretty features and their intent, authoritative expression.

FAITH
Now unless you're using the weapon
to choke a demon, you want to have
your weapon in your free hand.

Connor's eyes drop away.

FAITH
So you might have to switch in mid-battle.
You should consider, and practice,
which hand you want to use for the chokehold
and which hand you want to use for the weapon.

SANDY
(raising her hand timidly)
If we're staking vampires, why do we have
them in a choke-hold to begin with?
They don't breath.

FAITH
(raising her stake again)
We're starting with stakes 'cause they're easy.
But you never know what kind of weapon you'll have--
a sword, an ax.

Her hand tightens on Connor's neck.

FAITH
And you never know what kind of
demon you might be fighting.
Plenty of demons breath.

CONNOR
(coughing)
Plenty of humans too.

The girls giggle. Faith grins with embarrassment and loosens her grip.

FAITH
(to Connor, softly)
Sorry.
(then to the girls, her voice raised
authoritatively again)
Same rules apply as the last time.
Don't kill each other; but don't make
it easy on your partner, either.

The Slayers pair off and begin practicing choke-holds. Faith watches them for a moment. One girl in a choke-hold almost pokes another in the eye with the non-pointy end of stake while trying a back-handed punch.

Finally Faith returns to partner with Connor. She pulls him into a choke-hold.

FAITH
O.K., I got you.
What are you going to do?

Connor smiles, then raises his stake in his right hand.

CONNOR
Probably stab you in the hand with
this stake.

FAITH
Just as long as you don't stab yourself
in the neck in the process.

With lightening-fast speed, Connor switches his stake into his left hand and brings it around to his side where Faith's hand is clutching his hip.

CONNOR
(with a grunt)
I meant your other hand.

He taps the back of Faith's hand with his stake.

Faith jerks away from him on reflex, letting go of him with both hands.

FAITH
Ow.

Connor turns his head, his face etched with concern.

CONNOR
Did I--

Faith shakes her hand.

FAITH
It just pinched.

Connor whirls around and points the stake at her heart.

CONNOR
You're dead.

FAITH
(blinking)
And you have a puncture wound in your hip.

CONNOR
(shrugging)
Better one there than in my neck.

Faith nods and smiles wryly.

FAITH
O.K., switch.

Connor walks behind Faith and grabs her in a light chokehold with his right hand. His left holds the stake. Before he can do anything with his stake, though, Faith throws her head back hard against his face. Connor staggers back, losing his grip. The next thing he knows, he's head over heels. Faith flips him over flat on his back. HARD.

Connor grunts as the wind is knocked out of him.

The girls stop what they're doing and break out into cheers.

VARIOUS SLAYERS
Yeah!
Woo-hoo!
All right, Faith!

Connor lies there for a few beats, struggling not to show any pain on his face.

Finally, he winces, then twitches. He's trying to move but can't--at least not very well. His head rises, then falls back on the mat.

A moment ticks by. Then one by one, the girls drift over to him.

Finally, Faith steps over, too.

FAITH
You all right?

CONNOR
(grunting in pain)
I think I fell wrong.

CUT TO FAITH FROM CONNOR'S POV, looking down at him with cautious concern.

Then she glances up and around at the girls, who are looking on uncertainly.

FAITH
All right. Um....
(she kneels down by Connor)
Where does it hurt?

CONNOR
(wincing)
Mostly...in my ego.

FAITH
(confused)
What?

With a grunt, Connor pushes himself up to sitting. Then he looks at her and smirks.

CONNOR
But I'm over it now.

Faith sighs with aggravation and stands up. Connor grins up at her from the floor.

CONNOR
I had you going there for a second.

FAITH
(trying not to smirk)
No you didn't.

Connor hops to his feet. Grinning big.

CONNOR
Oh, I totally did.

BLACK OUT.

END OF ACT TWO

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[info]ann1962
2004-09-20 07:42 pm UTC (link)
I can't say enough about how happy I am that Faith and Connor are together. No not that way, but just hanging. And maybe fighting. Fun, fun. Angsty goodness. Boy, give them some chocolate, and all will be well. Faith, Connor and chocolate. Life is good. And other slayers are watching. [dies fanning myself]

See you don't have to worry about any counts Masq.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 07:56 pm UTC (link)
OK, but now I take back what I said in my LJ about "feel free to say anything".

Is anything you're saying how you really feel??

See, this is the problem with me and fiction. I'm very insecure.

I'd go back to only writing essays, except for me writing fiction is like breathing. I kind of have to do it.

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[info]ann1962
2004-09-20 08:11 pm UTC (link)
Yes Masq. I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it. I realize how serious you are about this and my comments, although fast, were not just to placate your requests elsewhere. lol. I am not just a fan girl here saying yes, that is wonderful. That is for other 'doms.

I have always liked the interaction between Connor and Faith. Very edgy. I am glad you are writing about it. It seems natural. There interactions although edgy and testing of each other seems correct here. I read these this morning and then the day got away from me.

The theme song was a great touch. Was it in the other episodes, I hadn't noticed. I am so busy reading, I don't always click the links.

Rona was a good choice to bring in here. Although she is tough, it is not Faith tough. Nice contrast of strong women. Connor plays off of them well. He did with Cordy and others. Although not much more than a boy, he did this successfully. No wonder all the women love his character.

I trust you with these characters. You know them well, have studied them, see their motivations. Not everyone has that. You see them through your own lens, but they are not refracted incorrectly. Not all of us can do that lol.

I need to reread the other episodes again. As you well know, my memory is not my strong suite.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, honey. Connor does have a thing for strong women. He did before Home and I think that continued after Home as well (he jokes about it, "having a thing for OLDER women", but I think it's strength, not age that's relevant here).

I'd love to find someway to do more Connor-Darla interaction, but that's hard in a situation where she's dead and can only be brought back some way that's plausible.

I sometimes wonder if Connor had any interaction with women in Quortoth. Not human women, obviously (I think), but maybe demon women (that were from sensient species he could interact with). Or maybe he didn't have any interaction with women to speak of, and had a strong need for maternal intervention as a result that came out in his attraction to Cordelia. Not sure.

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[info]ann1962
2004-09-20 08:39 pm UTC (link)
Which ever it was, he held no stereotypes of them. He assumed strength and knowledge for women. I can't think of a time that he did assume anything about women. Your question could go either way. In Quortoth to survive, you did what you had to do regardless of gender. So whether or not he did have any contact with females, he came out of it with respect for strength of any person. Too bad it took a torture dimension to make a boy into a non-sexist man.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 09:25 pm UTC (link)
I think he *must* have interacted with some women in Q. If he didn't, all his ideas about women would have been based on the heresay of an 18th century man. Of course, Holtz seemed surprisingly progressive for a man of his era. He treated Justine like crap sometimes, but he didn't hesitate to recruit her and other non-Slayer women to be warriors in his cause.

Hard to know how to wank that bit of Connor's past. ; )

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 08:47 pm UTC (link)
I too noticed an interesting Faith+Rona chemistry, the way they played off each other. This is a Connor fic, but part of me wants to explore that a little more. Not in a slashy way, although there was a vibe I didn't intentionally put in there. ; )

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[info]midnightsjane
2004-09-20 09:53 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I got that too. Could it come from Rona wanting at some level to be in charge? She was always at the forefront in questioning Buffy's authority, along with Kennedy, and I wonder if she could be feeling a bit of doubt that Faith is any more equipped to be lead Slayer than she is? Just a thought.
Connor certainly never seemed to have issues about gender roles; just about every woman he ever met was tough and strong. To survive being the prime motivator in Q., I think he naturally admires the strong, whether woman or man.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 10:09 pm UTC (link)
See, what *I* got out of their interaction was that Rona respected Faith in a way she didn't respect Buffy (I'm talking about how she is in my own fic), like Rona doesn't mind working for Faith even though Faith isn't the most well-rounded leader, precisely because Rona has sort of a kindred spirit in Faith.

I think Faith makes up for her deficiencies (or *will* make up for them in future episodes) by allowing the girls under her to develop their own strengths. Part of the reason I brought in Amanda (she wasn't there in my first draft) was to have someone being the "brains" of the LA Slayer Council, someone to explain who the bad guy was. That didn't seem to be either Faith or Rona's strong suit.

What Faith has that Rona doesn't is a bit of perspective. Rona's still hot-headed in a way that Faith is outgrowing.

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[info]midnightsjane
2004-09-20 10:34 pm UTC (link)
I agree that Rona has more respect for Faith than for Buffy. They are definitely more alike. I see your point about Faith allowing the girls to develope more of their own strengths. I think one of the differences between Faith and Buffy was that Buffy was pretty much conditioned to believe that she was the Chosen because she was the original current Slayer; therefore the idea of being the one to make the ultimate decisions about Slayage was ingrained in her. Faith always knew she was the "spare" Slayer (from the time she met Buffy anyway), so in a way she may have found it easier to accept that the new Slayers need to find their own ways to do things. Does that make any sense? Cause it does in my head, just not sure if I'm explaining it right.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-21 11:01 am UTC (link)
No, I think that's right. I think Faith is a little more in touch with her own weaknesses, or she has less illusions about them. In my story scenario, I imagine she got the important position she has due to seniority - she was one of the original chosen two and has been fighting for several years and has on-the-job experience. Buffy, Giles, whoever else is in charge of these matters can't just ignore that, they need all the help they can get. *But* they have a history with Faith as well, and they don't quite trust her.

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[info]midnightsjane
2004-09-20 10:03 pm UTC (link)
Don't even think about not writing fiction, because you have some serious talent, even if you don't fully realize it yet. for me writing fiction is like breathing. I kind of have to do it. As you feel about writing, I feel about reading. So, carry on.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 10:11 pm UTC (link)
Well, if you *really* feel that way, I have this novel I've been working on....


J/K.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment!

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 08:02 pm UTC (link)
I'm still trying to figure out *how* Faith will help Connor. With pre-Home Connor, Connor in "Salvage", it seemed obvious. He was screwed up, he had no role model for how to behave other than Holtz or Angel, one a human being torn by rage and revenge, the other a demon, albeit a good one and his father.

Faith seemed like the one person who could have gotten through to Connor and prevented the events of "Home" from ever happening. She was human, and like Connor, had supernatural strength, and like Connor, had a shitty childhood. And she would have helped Connor if for no other reason than because Connor's father helped her and she felt like she owed Angel one.

But post-Home Connor?

I suppose it depends on what I put Connor through, how Faith will be able to help him. But I think there's a connection there, a similarity in them even with Connor's new memories and life that will be vital in the story somehow.

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[info]ann1962
2004-09-20 08:21 pm UTC (link)
He seems to be in the same place as his dad. Memories of long ago, maybe not merged yet with the new him. Kind of like pre-Home Connor is like pre-souled Angel. Getting the two together is the struggle. I can see your concerns. I agree that Faith might just be the one to do it. She was certainly able to help Angel do it in that dream situation they were in together. Maybe his interaction with these woman in totality, many of the slayers to help him. He has mother issues he needs to work out too. A virgin birth is harsh on a guy. But he has focus now between school, which you are making important, and his search for himself.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 08:55 pm UTC (link)
I like that! Angel always had this schitzophrenia about Angelus ("He's me!" "He's *not* me!") that made him interesting and aggravating at the same time.

Connor could feel the same way about pre-Home Connor. "That *isn't me*", "But it *is* me". I think part of the goal of my fic is to figure out how Connor could integrate and make peace with those two identities, much like Angel *tried* to do with Angelus but never got a chance to completely (due to cancellation).

I always thought Angelus *was* Angel, or to be more precise, Angelus is Liam's dark side, the dark side we all have as human beings that society and upbringing and morals keeps in check. You lose your soul, you let it have free reign. Angel needed to make peace with his darker side. (part of our goal in the Season 6 project).

Connor's situation is a little different. His preHome self *really happened* and yet that Connor had so many disadvantages in life it'd be unfair to argue that preHome Connor is the "real" Connor. He's just who Connor would be under disadvantaged/traumatic circumstances. PostHome Connor is based on a lot of stuff that *never* happened, and yet he is *real* too -- he's who Connor would be under more adventageous/happy circumstances.

They're both Connor, it's a matter of how nurture effects who we are.

What I want to pull out in TD, what really fascinates me, is how much of Connor is "nature", that is, what did he get from his parents that will be revealed under *any* life circumstances, good or bad.

But yes, part of the point is to bring both Connors - preHome and postHome together to see who he can be with all his memories whirling around in his brain. ; )

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[info]midnightsjane
2004-09-20 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Masq, I so like where this fic is going. Basically I just want to reiterate what Ann has said about Connor and Faith having a very natural, almost adverserial relationship. They are feeling out where the other stands, and I think it flows from that relationship we saw in season 4 very nicely. Even if Faith doesn't remember him, he still interacts with her in the same way as before, part envy of her strength and skill, part attraction to the mythos of the slayer.
I liked the training sessions, and as Ann says, Rona is a natural for the role you have made for her. Interesting too that Faith and Buffy still have their issues; I would not expect them to have resolved their differences easily post Chosen.
I am very impressed with what you have written so far. I would not say so if I did not feel it,( because praising that which I don't like just seems pointless.) I try to read with a critical eye, and if I can offer any constructive criticism you can be sure I won't hesitate. I can't think of anything in that regard thus far, except to ask, didn't Amanda die in Chosen? I'm sure there was a flash of her dead on the ground.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-09-20 09:57 pm UTC (link)
Thanks Jane! I appreciate the feedback and the encouragement. I am having so much fun with this, trying to be true to the characters and yet extrapolate beyond the end of both shows to figure out where they'd go next.

Even if Faith doesn't remember him, he still interacts with her in the same way as before, part envy of her strength and skill, part attraction to the mythos of the slayer.

I wonder how much of Connor's attraction to Faith was simply "beautiful strong woman" and how much of it was attraction to the *idea* of the Slayer. It's been so long since I watched "Salvage", I forgot about that aspect of it, because I *did* notice it at the time. I remember thinking, and a lot of other people did, too, that Connor was more like a Slayer than he was a Vampire, and that he probably could learn a lot (and I'm thinking now of pre-Home Connor) from a Slayer.

I wanted pre-Home Connor to become as fascinated with Slayers as Spike was, although for different reasons, for reasons of searching for a role model for himself, something to relate to.

Post-Home Connor is a different story, because he seems so ambivalent about fighting. Well, pre-Home Connor became *very ambivalent* about fighting. He had some mixed-up ideas about being a Champion and what the appeal of it was for Angel, because fighting meant trauma for preHome Connor. postHome, preOrigin Connor thought fighting was pretty cool, and he didn't think otherwise until after he got his preHome memories back.

I want Connor to be a fighter, but it's the sort of thing I have to earn as a writer, I can't just *make* him a fighter, he has to be given a reason.

On Amanda - yikes. In the past month, I've rewatched season 7 twice boning up on my recent Slayer/Faith history, and yet I still think you might be right. I'll have to rewatch Chosen for the third time and check to be sure!


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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-02 12:37 pm UTC (link)
Well, I rewatched "Chosen", and though it's not clear (the slayer falls down and has blood on her face and we see a side view of her), I believe you're right that Amanda dies. So I've changed her appearance here and gave it to two different original slayer characters, which actually works better, because

(a) I couldn't see any of the season 7 potentials playing third fiddle to Rona anyway, and
(b) The original character Sandy is going to come back in future eps as sort of a watcher wannabe and it makes sense to have her doing the exposition in "Training Day".

Thanks for pointing that out, Jane!

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 12:08 pm UTC (link)
Since Connor/Faith comes as close to a OTP as I have (well them and SPike/Dru) I'm thrilled to see the two of them together here even if it just remains good fighting buddies because they work so well together.

I liked Connor's hesistance to join in (I can imagine what its like to be the lone island of testosterone in an ocean of estrogen). I loved that he beat Rona because well I never liked her much. Like him surprising Faith with the stake and the teasing at the end.

Back to working up my lecture on the diencephalon...

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 12:17 pm UTC (link)
Glad I could break up the brain tedium for you. By which I mean both your lecture and the hard-working gray matter behind it.

I saw both Connor and Rona as hesitant. Both didn't quite believe the other was as strong as them and both were afraid they'd hurt the other one. They got over that. Plus, you know, Connor was only fighting because he couldn't back down in front of Faith and then all those girls.

I like Rona, but then I have a thing for grouchy bitcas. She struck me as the second-strongest potential slayer of season 7 (emotional strength and talent). Vi was the first-most in my mind. But I thought I'd enjoy writing Rona more, and found some interesting Rona-Connor and Rona-Faith chemistry.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 12:41 pm UTC (link)
Well yes, for the honor of his sex, Connor had very little choice, besides there's cognitive neural tissue in that little sac down below, just ask any guy.

I can see how you'd pick Rona to write. She was one of the few that was distinct enough to expand upon (might try that for the new drabble challenge today) To be honest S7 bored me so much, Rona and Kennedy are the only two Potentials I remember.

Me and my tired gray matter are going for a trundle. It's nice and bright and if I dont' go now the leaves will be all gone and I won't get any sad pictures of them (ever notice pictures of nature never really capture it totally)

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 12:47 pm UTC (link)
I just got done watching Season 7 twice over prepping myself on the potentials and Faith's return to Sunnydale, which is why I have a working knowledge of them. Haven't looked at those tapes in a year and a half otherwise.

I'm bringing back the slayer thing from season 7 to give Faith a believeable post-BtVS life, but I'm worried that doing so might lose me some readers. A LOT of people didn't like Season 7, and they hated the Potentials. I keep trying to put the slayers in the background and Faith in the foreground with Connor, but my Faith muse keeps telling me her story includes the girls she is training. But I'll keep trying to push them back into the background. It's Connor's story I'm telling.

Have a great walk! It sounds lovely.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 01:47 pm UTC (link)
I think it makes perfect sense to bring in the new Slayers because really you can't do much Post-Chosen without them and Faith is an obvious choice for trainer. And I know well how hard it is sometimes when a background character wants to steal the show. You need a whip for them.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 02:05 pm UTC (link)
Faith doesn't want to steal the show, exactly. She's just a very strong (not just physically, but personality-wise) character and to write her as anything else is to get OOC with her.

Ever since Faith's 3-ep stint in season 4 of Angel, I've wanted to see her interact with Connor again. There was such potential there for him to learn from her, and she's a favorite of mine as he is.

I *didn't* have to bring the other slayers in, but to write Faith's post-Chosen history as having nothing to do with the new slayers, that seemed to underestimate Faith. I suppose I could have had her going through a rough patch where she wanted nothing to do with Buffy and the the responsibility of helping the slayers, but I didn't think to do that.

So now I have these ankle-biters to deal with instead. Faith needs to have problems of her own, she can't simply be a mentor-foil for Connor. And Faith's problems, it seems to me, should be related to the situation Angel's attack on the Circle of the Black Thorn/W&H created in Los Angeles. Mutant Enemy said their would have been reprecussions to Angel's decision had their been a season 6, and who's responsibility are those reprecussions if Angel's gone? I"m thinking the Slayer.

So that's the story I've given myself, and that's the story I have to write, even if the non-Faith slayers don't interest me that much.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 02:16 pm UTC (link)
Agreed, Faith is strong, with of course vulnerabilities. To make her anything less would be a disservice. And like you ever since seeing her and Connor together, I thought, man, that's great couple. They would work so well together (or conversely if they both went bad again they'd give Angelus/Darla a run for their money). Most of my future stories are Connor/Faith for that very reason.

Certainly if Angel's gone (and do we know that for sure? I got that impression but Connor's not doing a whole lot of thinking about dad), then Faith taking over LA's set of problems make sense. Her training the Slayers would be a big boost in her confidence as well. If you need to ditch the bulk of the teens later, certainly a problem can crop up that they get dispatched to leaving Faith in LA (with maybe Rona)

But yes Faith would need her own set of problems.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 02:25 pm UTC (link)
I don't see Faith and Connor as a "couple". I see Connor's attraction to Faith - that came out very clear on AtS, but I don't see Faith's attraction to Connor. He doesn't seem like her type (this isn't just my lesbo blinders, either--I think VK is totally hot, I just don't see Faith being especially attracted to Connor.

But as friends and mentor/student, I TOTALLY see that. Plus, if Faith knew what the sitch was, she'd CHOOSE to help Connor, I think, because she feels she owes Angel one for helping her. As the situation is, he's just a wild card she wants to figure out, and an ally who's already proved his worth.

That said, I'm writing this by the seat of my pants. I don't want to know what will happen, I want the characters to tell me, so I don't have an outline.

Will Angel come back? Well, two points: (a) I have to wait to see what the story tells me, and (b), Angel+Connor is my OTP, so you decide.

Will there be anything 'more' between Connor and Faith than just friendship? Again, I'm waiting for them to tell me. I haven't ruled it out.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 02:56 pm UTC (link)
I could definitely see Faith NOT finding Connor attractive in that way, though Faith not finding someone attractive would be unusual (then again I've always assumed her sexuality has been marred by abuse leading to her overt nature) Connor of course is by canon attracted

Personally, I prefer stories with action over ship any day of the week. But you're right, if Faith knew she'd be there to help Connor for Angel's sake (okay I wrote sex...man all this boring brain stuff is making mine melt) But as it stands now, having her help him and keep an eye on him makes good tactical sense. She doesn't know who or what he is and Rona has a good point, what if he's lying and he's a threat.

ANd I'm content to wait to see where the story takes you as to what happens with the pair or if Angel returns.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 03:06 pm UTC (link)
I almost qualified what I wrote in the above post and said "of course Faith might just jump his bones randomly because he's cute and he has a penis - that's canon Faith." Because I believe that's true.

Rather than write that, though, I wrote instead that I don't think she's "especially" attracted to him. I think she prefers a guy who's a little more buff and a little less strong than Connor. At the moment, I think she sort of sees him like she does her junior slayers - as a supernaturally strong pip-squeak she's got to mother. Perhaps one that's more like her emotionally/personality-wise than her other girls, but another rug rat all the same.

And she sees him as a mystery to be solved. A wild card that falls within her personal domain/responsibility.

I worry I'm making Faith way too responsible and level-headed. I want her gaining confidence post-Chosen as a leader and a person, but I need to be careful lest I Mary Sue her and lose the Faith we know and love.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 03:22 pm UTC (link)
Yeah that is a problem. Certainly canon Faith didn't want to be involved with the Slayers at all really (easy to get around, have Buffy think she can't and Faith would have to prove her wrong.) And Faith IS young too. I've always assumed she was younger than Buffy if only by a year. We know she dropped from high school so she's in her early 20's at best, not always going to be a model of good leadership.

I'm not sure how Faith would take to having a lover as strong as her. It might excite her. It might give her flashbacks to when she was a kid and at the mercy of someone which again I think there's an allusion to once or twice(Ooo, something for my own writing bank later) but yeah, certainly easy to see where he might not be buff enough for her.

Then again Faith mothering Connor might have very unexpected side effects, well unexpected to her. If Cordy's any indication, he likes mother figures. We know he likes his gals older.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 03:43 pm UTC (link)
Faith has no problem with strength - she'd do Angel or Spike in a heartbeat. But she can also kick both of their asses, too. I just think she *prefers* they not be as strong as her. That's my gut feeling, not canon. Sort of an extrapolation based on her desire to be "on top". (plus I got so bored of Buffy always going after guys who were stronger than average, like that was necessary or something).

I already wrote in this episode, episode 3, that Faith doesn't have the book skills needed to teach the Slayers about demons and magic and things like that. Neither does Rona. It's a hole in their education that might prove to be a problem later, I don't know. Or I could bring in a Watcher-type character to fill that role. So Faith's already not quite qualified to be everything these girls need and she knows it. She's basically acting as a General to an Army and treating her job like that.

I think this would be something Buffy and Giles would be well aware of and trying to remedy, but I figure their resources are few and they're making due for the time being. But it's also the reason I mention Buffy in this episode and Faith's belief that Buffy doesn't think she can run things.

I think just based on my own oversights as a writer, I've created problems that Faith the character will have to deal with. Which is classic Mutant Enemy, now that I think about it. They've spackled their plot holes with Character Angst before.

I appreciate this discussion we're having because it's helping me stand back and think through the implications of what I've written so far and how they might play out.

As for Connor, he's partly serving an element of my own personal agenda, which is that "he* thinks Faith is hot, and *I* think Faith is hot, and *he* likes older women, and *I* liked older women at his age and I have a long angsty history of unrequited infatuations. Not sure if I'm actually going to take Connor there, but I know it's lurking back there.

To be honest, I prefer action to 'shipping myself, and so we get at least one fight scene for Connor in every episode. And I love the exploration of psychological depths and philosophical quandaries, and Connor is a gold mine for that.

But I'm not opposed to The Sex. It just has to make story line sense. I imagine Faith is out sleeping around when she goes clubbing in the city. It might be something I'll imply at some point, but not necessarily something I'll show in detail.

A cute kid like Connor should be dating, I guess, I'm just not sure how to handle that, because I don't want him getting involved with anyone on an on-going basis, and showing a series of one-time dates is boring, if you ask me. So it's convenient to have him pining for Faith a little, as it gets me off the hook showing him with the Girl of the Week. Plus? It makes canon sense for Connor. He sort of fixated on Cordelia and though he would have slept with another woman if one had made herself available, he didn't seem like the 'playing the field' type.

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Yes I suppose Faith does like being on top and unlike Buffy she's not always after the super powered guys so that will make for a nice change.

Oh and good point about Faith not having the book skills. One assumes Faith was never a good student and certainly she doesn't have the skills for the book stuff. Might not be a bad idea to have a Watcher show up at some point (or even Aiden might know a thing or two)

No problem, the discussion is helping me think thru things I've done and could be doing in the future too.


Oh lord yes, I get all the action, psychological and philosophical problems I could ever hope for in Connor. I think that's why I love writing him so (funny I was just thinking about my philosophy teacher the other day. Still wondering how I got that A in logic).I've written one or two PWP's in my time but I prefer sex in a story to make sense and FIT the flow, not stop it like it so often does.

Though while I think we're in a minority thinking Connor's cute, I think he should be dating and yes, having him being Mr one-gal only would fit canon. I tend to do either that or I make him like Liam at that age as an overreaction to all the bad stuff that happened when he was so loyal.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 04:36 pm UTC (link)
We're in the minority thinking Connor's cute? *He's adorable!!* I must spend all my time surrounded by Connor/VK fans these days, 'cause that somehow strikes me as a very odd statement!

I did sort of give Connor a date in episode 4, although I made it clear he wasn't into the girl. I guess I thought I could slide by on Connor pining for Faith until it became story-line relevant for Connor to, er, "get some" as it were. I don't know. I may have to think that through more.

Aiden - I'm not sure where I'm going with him, although I have some ideas. Right now, he's almost a little *too* ignorant of the demon underside of L.A. to be believable, but I am writing him as the normal-world guy who wants to know all about demons and magic and the supernatural. Partly as a counter-balance to Connor, who is up to his ears in the supernatural as his birthright and wants to live a normal life (ha!) Obviously the twain shall meet.

I hadn't thought of Aiden being a help to Faith, though. That's an interesting thought. I mean, I suppose at some point my three main credit characters should all come together, or what's the point, but like I said, seat of the pants writing! ; )

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Yes I think you must hang with VK fans more than I do. MOST of my reviews for stories go 'I hate Connor BUT you've made me like him.' or 'he's goofy looking but you make me believe Faith/Dawn/whoever wants him'

I figure you'll know when it's pertainent for Connor to have (or not have a girl)

I assumed Aiden would eventually interact more with Connor/Faith. I didn't have a good feel for him, well I'm behind in my reading too. I know he likes to pretend he knows what's going on. I'll be curious as to why he's poking his nose in.

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 05:02 pm UTC (link)
I know plenty of folks who aren't VK/Connor fans, but they're mostly friends from my website discussion board and they know there's sort of this unwritten rule of etiquette there that you only make fun of Masq's Connor obsession if you're teasing nicely. I didn't write the rule! These are just really nie people. But I do get teased sometimes in fun.

I tried not to give any one character on my BtVS/AtS website preference, so my fandom of Connor didn't come out in my writing there (much). It did in my posts on the discussion board, and in my LJ, but again, mostly I'm talking to friends in these places and if they don't care for Connor they don't respond to those posts.

I also imagine people won't come read my fic unless they're already Connor fans.

It's a nice bubble to live in, I guess. I've had more than one experience of being asked by internet acquaintances who my favorite characters were and getting the equivalent of an icky face as the mention of Connor. But not a lot of it.

And things have improved post-"Origin"

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[info]cornerofmadness
2004-10-10 09:54 pm UTC (link)
Most of my friends love to tease me about my obession with Connor (Less so about Spike since so many of them share the obessession). I figure if I can make them like a character they hated on the show, then I'm doing something really right.

And yes, things got better with Origins and oddly enough even my friends who really disliked Connor were just as furious as I was at him being written out as he was in Home

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[info]masqthephlsphr
2004-10-10 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Faith *is* young and not well educated, but she gets the job training newbie slayers 'cause she has seniority, and let's face it, there aren't a lot of other people qualified. I imagine Buffy is sort of in charge of a "Slayer Council" set up at the end of Chosen to find the new slayers and train them, and Buffy's history with the Watchers means she doesn't want them coming in and potentially taking over the whole shebang and making it like things were before.

Which means tolerating Faith, because at least Faith's a Slayer, she has experience, and Buffy can't afford to say no to that.

There's lots of "potential" if you'll pardon the term, for conflict there. I just don't want it sucking up st