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Seven-year old not allowed to have service dog at school
This really makes me angry.



http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/news/state/9323350.htm

Rockcastle girl, 7, needs Mikki's help during seizures

By Karla Ward
HERALD-LEADER STAFF WRITER

On 7-year-old Cheyenne Gilliam's first day at Mount Vernon Elementary yesterday, her new principal, Leon Davidson, explained to her classmates that the dog she brought to school isn't a pet: It's a working dog trained to respond to Cheyenne's epileptic seizures.

But the pair's first day in second grade ended abruptly when Rockcastle County Schools Superintendent Larry Hammond notified Cheyenne's parents, Jennifer and Anthony Gilliam, that the dog was, in a manner of speaking, being suspended.

Two hours after the day began, the family took the dog, and their daughter, home.

Hammond said in an interview that he wants to find out whether the school is legally obligated to allow Cheyenne to bring Mikki, a 55-pound Wei-mar-aner, into the classroom. The school board's attorney is reviewing the case.

"I've never dealt with a situation quite like this," he said. "I regret the inconvenience to the parent and the child."

Jennifer Gilliam said she's frustrated that the issue is coming up now.

When the family first bought their house in Rockcastle County two months ago, she said she began working with the school system to ensure that it was prepared for the dog, which came home with the family Sunday after five months of training.

Cheyenne was diagnosed with epilepsy about two years ago but did not have a service dog at her previous school in Edmonson County.

Gilliam said she had responded to the district's questions, sent in the paperwork officials required and worked with them to draw up plans for how the dog would be handled at school.

Although he has not had any complaints from parents, Hammond said the dog could be a liability to the district and might disrupt the classroom. He also noted that some children might fear dogs or be allergic to them.

"It's my responsibility to see to the safety and the well-being of all," Hammond said. "I would rather look at getting an instructional assistant and training them."

But a human aide couldn't do all the things Mikki can, Jennifer Gilliam said.

She said the dog senses oncoming seizures and alerts Cheyenne by obsessively licking the palms of her hands. That cues Cheyenne to sit down on a mat on the floor, so she will not hit her head on furniture.

During a seizure, Mikki lies across the girl, providing a sense of security. When Mikki gets up, Cheyenne knows it's safe for her to get up, too, Gilliam said.

Cheyenne takes medicine that helps prevent seizures, but she still has three to five "full-blown" episodes a week, Gilliam said.

The family raised $8,000 to pay for the dog and its training as well as training for Cheyenne in Oxford, Pa., where Gilliam said the girl had to prove "that she can handle the dog in any situation."

A lawyer with expertise in service animals and the protections guaranteed their owners under the Americans with Disabilities Act said he does not believe Hammond has the right to stop the dog from coming to school, as long as Cheyenne truly has a disability and Mikki truly is a service dog.

"Unless this dog is menacing the other children, that superintendent doesn't have a leg to stand on," said Aaron McCullough, who works for the Texas-based Disability Law Resource Project.

Gilliam said she believes her refusal to have an "Individual Education Program" drawn up for her daughter is part of the problem.

She said the plan would involve not only testing Chey-enne's intellectual capability, but also her mental and emotional health, something that is not required for most children.

Gilliam said her daughter is a good student and she does not want her treated differently.

McCullough said the refusal of the plan shouldn't matter, since the plans "are for students who have learning impairments or disabilities that affect their ability to learn."

"There's no other formality they (the Gilliams) have to go through," he said.

However, Kentucky Department of Education spokeswoman Lisa Gross said the plans "are also for kids who have physical disabilities," and unless parents agree to setting one up, schools are not required to provide special accommodations.

The family is filing a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education and will continue going to school each morning to see whether Mikki can go in. If she can't, both the dog and Cheyenne will go back home. Gilliam said she hopes the situation is resolved quickly, as Hammond has pledged.

"I really don't want her to fall behind," she said.
Reach Karla Ward at (859) 231-3314; 1-800-950-6397, Ext. 3314; or kdooley@herald-leader.com.



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[info]public_secrecy
2004-08-05 10:10 pm UTC (link)
thats rediculous. the school is more interested in making sure that a few kids dont have an alergic reaction to the dog than making sure that the little girl can actually safely attend school.

everything is political and trying to do what is "politically correct for the masses" while at the same time overlooking the importance of this dog to the girl and her ability and want to be able to go to school.

it so unfortunate

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[info]fledchen
2004-08-05 10:10 pm UTC (link)
I have mixed feelings about this.
There is no question that a team consisting of a qualified PWD and qualified SD must be granted access to the school. But is the girl really a qualified handler? The biggest factor here is age.
Many service dog programs do not serve clients younger than 18. Some serve mature 16 and 17 years olds (I have a 16-year-old aquaintance who is currently getting her first guide dog at GDB Oregon), and The Mira Foundation in Canada will, on ocassion, partner a dog with a child as young as 11 who has proven exceptional maturity and responsibility.
Given the age of the child, and the unusual breed, I assume that in this case, the dog was train privately either by the parents or a professional trainer. There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself--I have met several handler-trained teams, and they were all equal, if not superior to, the school-trained teams I have met.
But we go back to the age of the child. In addition to the question of whether or not she can effectively handle a dog who probably outweighs her, how can she also be expected to handle her schoolmates? Adults have a hard enough time keeping people from distracting their working dogs. I really don't think a child that young has the capacity to effectively work with a dog on her own. There are many "skilled companion" dogs out there who work with children, but there is also always an adult facilitator who is the backup handler.

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[info]leora
2004-08-05 10:25 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure she's able to handle the dog well, how could I be, I don't know her, but given that it's for seizures, it really may be vital. Seizure dogs can prrvent fatal accidents. So, it's not just a question of added mobility, but can be a life or death matter. It usually won't be, but you can't know. So, I'm sort of fine with a young child having a service dog for that, even if she's not as skilled with the animal as an adult might be. Especially since the school could use it to teach the other students some basic etiquette about service dogs, and students should always be supervised anyway.

I don't think allergies is a small issue. I have a friend who is severely enough allergic that a dog in a room with her would mean she couldn't breathe, and interacting with people who had been in the room with that dog (say other students at lunch) would cause her problems. So, there can be a conflict of interest. But unless you have a kid with severe allergies, you don't need to worry about that, and most people aren't that severely allergic to any animal.

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[info]rainbow_goddess
2004-08-05 10:40 pm UTC (link)
Allergy is a definite concern -- I know how troublesome they can be, having asthma that's triggered by allergies -- but I think a child with a severe allergy could probably be accomodated without a lot of trouble to the school. If the parents really did try to prepare the school before the little girl even started school with the dog, then the school should have been prepared to deal with that possibility.

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buffalogal
2004-08-05 11:09 pm UTC (link)
Allergies, including allergies to dogs, do not trump the civil rights of people with disabilities as provided by the ADA.

If a child has an allergy that is so severe, then the child with the allergies should be removed from the classroom to another part of the school where he/she will not come in contact with the dog. As far as I know allergies are not covered by the ADA unless the allergies are so numerous and severe the person cannot leave their home without having a reaction.

I often tell people that play the allergy card with me that they make medication to treat allergies and the symptoms, they don't make medication that allows me to see.

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[info]rainbow_goddess
2004-08-05 11:13 pm UTC (link)
If you read my comment, you'll see that I said that surely a child with allergies could be acommodated (which could include being moved to a different classroom). I didn't say that "allergies trump civil rights." I'm not "playing the allergy card." I AGREE WITH YOU. Please re-read my comment before you jump all over me.

I have severe allergies, but I still live with three cats.

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[info]a_dawn
2004-08-06 12:04 am UTC (link)
I really don't think the previous response was meant to jump all over you. I don't think the poster meant anything personal, it was just a comment. Sometimes people "respond" to the last comment in a thread.

Everything you said was logical and fine. I don't think it was meant to be an attack.

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buffalogal
2004-08-06 12:33 am UTC (link)
I wasn't arguing with you. I was making a general reply to the origional post. I most likely hit the wrong reply button.

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buffalogal
2004-08-06 12:39 am UTC (link)
and again, I wasn't arguing with you. I was continuing the thread about allergy concerns. I was adding my opinion complimenting what you said.

If you are offended by my "allergy card" comment then I am sorry, but it is an excuse I hear way to much from people to not allow me my access rights to places of public accomodation.

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[info]madnesspassing
2004-08-06 08:16 am UTC (link)
The thing i question isn't possible allergies, but rather a much more distracting possibility than the dog alone brings:

The girl has 3-5 episodes a week. She spends 5 days at school from 8-3 (estimate)..7 hours, sleeps 8 hours, 9 hours awake at home.
Roughly 1/3 of her weekday is spent at school. How often will she be having seizures during class?
The dog can sense oncoming seizures and maybe minimize the risk, but it cannot prevent them from occurring. While it would certainly be a good chance for kids to learn, it's almost impossible to think that they would just be able to ignore a classmate writhing on the floor with a dog on her. Even if the other children did adapt to the procedure of her having seizures, It's probably going to be extremely difficult to get them to focus on their lesson for some time afterward.

I think the disallowance of the dog is bullshit and definitely violates the ADA, but i'm uncertain as to whether or not the girl should be in the school anyway. If she had a few seizures a month, she could probably be okay in a school setting, but she's having several a month. That can't be conducive to the learning environment there and could be detrimental to the class as a whole. Attention spans in first grade aren't that great and frequent stops for seizures could make it that much harder to get them to pay attention.

Unfortunately, pulling the girl from the public school will probably mean she won't get a quality education. However, it's a case of the lesser of two evils. Either a whole class is affected by one student or one student is taken out of that environment at a possible cost of her education.

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[info]lisy_babe
2004-08-06 02:14 pm UTC (link)
I don't think one child having a seizure needs to distract a whole class. It entirely depends on the quality of the teachers management of the situation (I've never had a seizure, but I used to regularly break my bones in school and it was always the biggest trauma for everyone (most especially me) because not one single member of staff at my school had any kind of people/situation management skills).

Also, the dog apparently warns her of oncoming seizures so she can sit on a mat - making the job of the school staff easier, all they have to do is set the mat up in a quiet corner, maybe a partitioned off area of the classroom and it's no disruption to the other kids at all.

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[info]wakasplat
2004-09-18 10:51 am UTC (link)
I don't think one child having a seizure needs to distract a whole class.

I went to special ed with a lot of people who were very easily distracted. I seriously think that if we could accept seizures as a regular occurrence without it disrupting the class too much, just about anyone could. Oh yeah, and we had two service dogs too. (That's one thing that bothers me a lot when I read about the things non-disabled people supposedly can't put up with. If a bunch of learning/developmentally/cognitively disabled kids who were also being brutalized on a regular basis (because it was a very shitty school) and thus pretty much guaranteed to have emotional problems too, could handle something without being overly distracted by it, I'd think non-disabled people would too. Unless non-disabled people are way more distractible than they're made out to be. Which I wouldn't know, because I've never been one.)

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[info]maccaj
2004-08-06 09:45 am UTC (link)
McCullough said the refusal of the plan shouldn't matter, since the plans "are for students who have learning impairments or disabilities that affect their ability to learn."

Someone who works for the Disability Law Resource Progect actually said this?! Ignorance abounds! I had an IEP all through public school. I have cerebral palsy, and for the vast majority of my public school career, needed no major accommodations - desks I could fit my wheelchair under and the like. Affect my ability to learn? Let's see, I was reading at a college level by age five and went to college at age 16. Yeah, that must have been why I had an IEP alright... just too stupid to manage otherwise without those cut-out desks.

I regret the battle the school system is giving them - it's illegal and a hassle - but it sounds to me like if they were a little better *informed* about what an IEP *really* is, the problem would solve itself. My IEP was always far more of a safety net than a necessity - we wrote all kinds of things into it that never even came up/became issues, but that way whenever something *did*, I had recourse.

Unfortunately, if these parents remain fixated on "She's so normal, she doesn't need documentation," the school system is going to respond with "then we're going to treat her normally, i.e. no dog."

Welcome to the world of playing by *all* the rules.

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[info]morbidthoughts
2004-08-09 09:35 am UTC (link)
Aaron is making a legal distinction that you may not be aware of. IEPs, as defined by IDEA, are for students who have learning disabilities. What you described as your IEP are accommodations mandated by Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act along with Title II of the ADA (which protects students with all disabilities). Schools often interchangeably use the same process to evaluate what is needed for the student under both sets of laws and that is why there is often confusion in differentiating between what is actually a 504 plan vs an IEP.

I am disgusted that you denounce Aaron's analysis as ignorance and somehow view it personally as an insult to your learning abilities.

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[info]maccaj
2004-08-09 09:48 am UTC (link)
no need for disgust - mea culpa. Do you dispute the need for a 504 then, and the need for the disability to be documented properly, regardless of what the process is termed? Again, not saying the school system is in the right - they are breaking the law, period.

that said, it still seems to me like this family wants things both ways - accomodation without documentation.

I do hope I don't "disgust" anyone else with my semantic discrepancies.

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[info]xkatwomanx
2004-08-09 02:18 pm UTC (link)
I totally agree with you!

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[info]tokidokidee
2004-08-10 02:35 pm UTC (link)
No matter what it's called, I don't believe that a school is obligated to provide accommodations under IDEA unless the disability is documented. Unfortunately, that most likely means going through a crapload of assessments that may or may not have to do with the actual disability. It seems as if the parents' fear of labelling may actually be impeding Cheyenne's chances to learn in the "Least Restrictive Environment."

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[info]maccaj
2004-08-10 02:50 pm UTC (link)
exactly my point, thank you.

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service dogs
(Anonymous)
2006-07-26 02:22 am UTC (link)
If the allergic child has a mild to medium reactions then seating across the room should be enough for everyone to be reasonably happy. If the allergic child (If there is one) is anaphylactic to pet dander, this is rare but can happen, then you have a real conflict of rights. I had a medium reactions from dogs as a child and young person. I asked once to be seated away from a service dog in a restaurant. The waitress, blind person and I, were all happy with my request, as service dogs tend to be well groomed and less of a allergy risk. Lets attack owners who allow there pets to be unleashed and jump on me causing asthma rashes ect.

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Re: service dogs
[info]maccaj
2006-07-26 04:22 am UTC (link)
totally agreed. I have allergies myself, including to dogs, and I have a service dog - i can tolerate *his* dander now due to acclimation, but other dogs are a real problem.

As far as this particular situation, if there are children who are allergic enough for it to be an issue, let them be placed in a different classroom... that's just common sense. As you said, anaphylaxis would be a whole different problem, but to me it sounds like the core issue in all this is that the parents don't want to go through the proper channels, and are then screaming about discrimination.

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Re: service dogs/allergies
(Anonymous)
2006-07-26 09:05 am UTC (link)
I posted the other comment.

The laws are different in Canada. My child is very reactive to milk protein. I requested 1) Notice given to me if class is doing a food related activity 2) My child only eats food I have packed because I don't expect staff to know ingredients like lactoglobulin, ghee and recaladent can have milk protein.

My requests where granted with out documentation, though the school saw a reaction to a food after I gave my daughter food that was exposed to milk in the factory, later recieved food recall by E-mail.

In this dog situation this could be a small school with only one grade two class room. (or what ever grade this child attends)

Avoiding Milk Protein http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertblue/MilkAllergy.htm

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2008-06-29 06:06 am UTC (link)
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2008-07-05 01:09 pm UTC (link)
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