Renaissance Girl ([info]elanor_two) wrote in [info]lower_tadfield,
@ 2005-10-04 23:15:00
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new news?
I saw Neil Gaiman tonight (was fabulous indeed!) and invariably someone asked about movies, so. I don't actually know if this is new info around here, but I've been here for a fair amount of time, and some of it was new to me, so (cut and pasted from my journal):

-News on the Good Omens movie: Johnny Depp is still wanted for Crowley, and still wants to play Crowley. Robin Williams was originally signed on to play Aziraphale, Madame Tracy and Hastur--I kid you not--but not anymore.
Apparently the movie may in fact be happening now; as he put it yesterday in Portland (and goes and quotes himself): "I thought it was completely dead, but in fact it's just lying in a glass coffin surrounded by dwarves."

So...moving forward? Looks like? No word on an Aziraphale (not actually Williams, thank goodness. Though I know it wouldn't work, Williams as Tracy is a hilarious image.)

Any other new news I may have missed?


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[info]lintwhite
2005-10-05 06:38 am UTC (link)
As much as I love Robin Williams, I'd have to go on a killing spree if he had been cast as Aziraphale. Or Madame Tracy. Or Hastur.

I am so glad that's not happening now. :) But you know who I am even more afraid of being cast as Aziraphale?

Brian Dennehy. Apparently, Terry Pratchett wanted him for Aziraphale. Worst casting decision ever, anyone?

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 07:06 am UTC (link)
Agh! It's the words "US actor"---no no no, Az is English. Well, okay, he's an angel. But an ENGLISH one.

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[info]ajodasso
2005-10-05 09:39 am UTC (link)
As somebody else noted, Williams as Tracy would have indeed been hilarious. But hey, as long as he's not doing Aziraphale, I don't care that it means he's out of the picture entirely. I'm relieved. If indeed they're doing this, the angel's going to he hell to cast.

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[info]dwightsredshoes
2005-10-05 10:26 am UTC (link)
Yeah. Too bad David Thewlis was only ever good in one movie, huh?

I am so glad Robin Williams is out. I almost cried when I read that earlier... being new to the whole Good Omens thing, it was a rude, nasty shock.

I am sorry, I cannot picture an unattractive angel. I have spent ungodly amounts of time trying to force myself to picture a Robin Williams-esque person in that role, and I cannot do it. Angels are pretty. It is one of the fundamental advantages of being an angel.

Depp as Crowley is great though :D this, I look forward to.

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[info]dwightsredshoes
2005-10-05 10:43 am UTC (link)
By the way, that said... I think I could overcome it, simply because I think Robin Williams could bring a lot to the role. But I have my mental image to cling to. Did the same thing with LOTR... liked Elijah in the role, hated how he looked.

Also I wish he'd at least stuck with Tracy :(

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[info]on_axis
2005-10-05 11:36 am UTC (link)
Too bad David Thewlis was only ever good in one movie, huh?

Can I ask what movie? :)

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[info]stella_polaris
2005-10-05 12:23 pm UTC (link)
GET RID OF GODDAMN DEPP.

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 12:31 pm UTC (link)
NO!!!!!!!

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[info]stella_polaris
2005-10-05 12:34 pm UTC (link)
YES!

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 01:11 pm UTC (link)
NO. NO NO NO.
NEIN. NON. NÃO. NO.

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[info]rhombal
2005-10-05 01:20 pm UTC (link)
... Can I just say that this thread made me absolutely crack up?

I don't know why, but it did. So, thanks, I suppose. XD ♥

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Lmao. I aim to please. I suppose.

You're welcome! :D <3333!

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[info]htebazytook
2005-10-06 03:35 am UTC (link)
Same here XD Hee.

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[info]stella_polaris
2005-10-05 01:32 pm UTC (link)
YES. YES YES YES.
Ja. Da. Kyllä. Si.

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Admit it. Depp could pull it off as Crowley.

Not his clothes. I mean, I'm sure he could do that, but you know.

*mental images* Oy.

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[info]stella_polaris
2005-10-05 07:01 pm UTC (link)
To be honest, I just don't think he could do it. I really don't care much for Depp. He's an ok actor, but not he's not Crowley.

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[info]dwightsredshoes
2005-10-05 07:54 pm UTC (link)
I have yet to see a role that he did not take on well. And Crowley oozes attitude, and that is something Depp is good at.
Plus he has "good cheekbones."

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 08:00 pm UTC (link)
I couldn't have put it better myself. Now that you mention that, he does have good cheekbones!

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Your icon amuses me. I agree with [info]dwightsredshoes. Listen, I'm not exactly a fan of Depp either, but I think he's talanted and would do a good Crowley.

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[info]stella_polaris
2005-10-05 09:00 pm UTC (link)
But it doesn't matter :D Look, I just don't want him as Crowley. I know how well liked he is, but it's not gonna turn me.

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 12:30 pm UTC (link)
OH YES GIVE ME SOME DEPP.

MAYBE HE CAN USE THOSE WILLY WONKA GOGGLES AGAIN.

Kidding. But I liked those.

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Haha, instead of Crowley's sunglasses? What a mental image...:D

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[info]shining_water
2005-10-05 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Haha. Yes, exactly. XD

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[info]rhombal
2005-10-05 01:22 pm UTC (link)
Augh, I'm both excited and not about this movie. Firstly, just to have a GO movie would be wonderful. ... But then again, movies tend to bring a whole truck-load of people into the fandom (I like the GO fandom at the moment; it's just the right size), and it also tends to skew our mental images of the book. And I like my mental images ...especially of the Horsepeople. Because, dude, they're definitely not going to get anywhere close to my mental images of the Horsepeople. :3

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 03:51 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that would be something to worry about--hordes of Depp fangirls storming the fandom. Oy.

On the other hand, I think it would probably die down quickly--it's not as pervasive as the Harry Potter phenom or anything, and I don't imagine it would be quite as big a deal.

Ah, the Horsepeople are tricky...

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[info]dwightsredshoes
2005-10-05 07:56 pm UTC (link)
The idea of a grossly-overinflated fandom occurred to me, but I don't have room to talk, seeing as I just read the book about a week ago. >_> Then again, I had been intending to read it for a few years. That counts, right? >_>

And yes, mental images get skewed. I hate Peter Jackson for taking away my Lothlorien.

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[info]beetle_breath
2005-10-05 11:40 pm UTC (link)
I hate Peter Jackson for taking away my Haldir and then killing him.

*koff*

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[info]brainmuffin
2005-10-05 01:50 pm UTC (link)
Crowley? Depp?

... *squiggledies*

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[info]designer_ninja
2005-10-05 02:46 pm UTC (link)
Nya! Random icon love. I just watched all of that series in one sitting last night.

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[info]brainmuffin
2005-10-05 03:49 pm UTC (link)
Omg OTP etc :D <3

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[info]designer_ninja
2005-10-05 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Ha! Yes.

...Man... I need to gets me some icons, now.

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[info]akiko
2005-10-05 02:11 pm UTC (link)
I was at PDX last night too. He's SO cute!!! I thought of this comm when that person asked the question.

GNeil = awesome.

Robin Williams != Aziraphale. No.

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[info]designer_ninja
2005-10-05 02:48 pm UTC (link)
Noooo... why can they not comprehend the goodness that is Clive Owen? I'm sorry, but Johnny Depp is too pretty to be Crowley, and would bring unwanted fangirls. Gyah.

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 03:53 pm UTC (link)
would bring unwanted fangirls.

What makes me laugh is that early on Hollywood told Terry Gilliam that there was no market for funny movies with Depp in them. Qua?

There would be a lot of fangirls...but I think it would actually blow over fairly quickly...maybe.

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[info]designer_ninja
2005-10-05 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Oh, how times have changed.

And it could blow over... but what if it doesn't? Honestly. I do not need some girl Mary Sue-ing with movieverse
Crowley. And you know it would happen.

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 04:10 pm UTC (link)
Well, then we can make a new community for skewering their stories on spikes and ripping them apart. ...um. I mean...

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[info]inkandalchemy
2005-10-05 04:19 pm UTC (link)
Ooooh, you made it to the Kane Hall signing? I wanted to go SO atrociously badly, but work kept me an hour and a half late. There was just no way. *weeps*

Also, the mental image of a GO movie in a glass coffin surrounded by dwarves makes me giggle FAR more than can possibly be healthy. XD

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-05 04:30 pm UTC (link)
Yes! Only it was in the Methodist Temple across the street. Not sure why. Maybe for the sheer amusement of Neil Gaiman in a church (he had a joke about that too...I wrote a whole bunch at my own journal which you can looksee for a report if you like).

Haha, I know! The crowd was laughing a lot at that...

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[info]little_aphid
2005-10-06 12:24 am UTC (link)
THANK GOD. If Robin Williams was Aziraphale, I might've skipped this movie. Nothing against RW, but I can't risk someone weird like him taking away my image of Aziraphale.

Depp as Crowley. I would love to see that movie. I think Depp could pull it off well, and he's probably as close to my mental images of Crowley as they're ever going to get. Plus he's just an all around good actor.
But when the Depp fangirls swamp fandom... that's were the fear sets in.

But in the end, seeing the movie acted well trumps my perfectly-sized fandom, and it's not like all the good fic will fizzle up and disappear. It'll just be slightly more difficult to find.

Of course, one solution is not making a movie at all. Which would be sad after anticipating new ideas, and a different, vaguely official take on the book, but better than a terrible movie that changes how I picture the characters and setting.

In short, I'm undecided.

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[info]ziarenete13x
2005-10-07 02:37 am UTC (link)
Depp would be able to pull it off well, just the right amount of sly/creepy, comedy, and serpentine charm. Though I do agree about the fangirls.

Honestly no clue about Aziraphale.

But Dogma has spoiled me for Metatron. I can't see him as anyone else, but Alan Rickman.

I know the answer to this! Animation!

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-07 05:12 am UTC (link)
I know the answer too! TIM BURTON and STOP MOTION ANIMATION.

God, that would be awesome.

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[info]ziarenete13x
2005-10-07 03:09 pm UTC (link)
But the problem with that is, there's still Johnny Depp. And Danny Elfman would end up doing covers of Queen and Elvis. No offense, but that's just wrong.

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[info]elanor_two
2005-10-07 09:53 pm UTC (link)
Well, yes. Though I tend to think there would be less Depp fangirls for an animated Depp than a live action Depp.
Okay, so if Danny Elfman DIDN'T do covers of Queen...it would work. :)

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[info]melantha_eris
2005-10-07 02:24 pm UTC (link)
Nooooo!
Not Depp. Depp is the DEATH of all Fandoms.
The fandom is nice and clean, I don't want it all full of fangirls.
I want Crowley to be somebody I don't really know - like a less femme Cillian Murphey maybe?
And we MUST have an english actor, preferably pretty and "gayer than a treeful of monkies on nitrous oxide".
And I hate Williams D :

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[info]melantha_eris
2005-10-07 02:25 pm UTC (link)
English actor for Aziraphale I meant, D'oh.

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[info]cactus_cat
2005-10-08 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Oooh, Cillian Murphy would be perfect - and this is coming from a die-hard Defender Of Depp's Talent. He certainly fits my mental image of Crowley more closely!

Non big-name actors would be nice, but it seems unlikely to happen that way. Le sigh.

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[info]jemariel
2005-10-15 07:49 am UTC (link)
If they end up with someone else as Crowley, I am seeking out Mr. Depp and demanding to know why he failed to show up on the first day of shooting and demand his rightful place.

Williams as Aziraphale... no. Madame Tracy, now that would be funny, but... no. I just don't think he can do stuffy-english-bibliophile-who-is-dead-sexy-under-that-all-that-tweed.

There was a guy in a movie I caught part of once that would have been *perfect* for Aziraphale... but now I don't remember the actor or the movie. Damn.

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