m e l t y _ g i r l ([info]melty_girl) wrote in [info]lost_theories,
@ 2006-01-13 00:04:00
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murderers
This is not a full-blown theory, but I thought I'd throw it out there to y'all anyway.

The island hosts an inordinate number of people who committed murder before their arrival: Kate, Sawyer, Ana Lucia, Eko, probably Sayid, perhaps Jin. You might even say Hurley if you count the effects of his use of the numbers for his lottery ticket.

And then there are those who were lifesavers before the crash: Jack, Locke, perhaps Sun.

Not on either side (yet): Michael, Walt, Charlie, Claire, Shannon, Boone, Rose, Bernard, Ana Lucia's blond friend--or did I forget something that one of them did?

The presence of all these murderers seems significant somehow. As many have noted, there seems to be a lot of guilt flowing through all the characters. Have they been chosen to be there? Is this an experiment?

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[info]chicafrom3
2006-01-13 12:31 am UTC (link)
There's a theory that went around that Walt might have been responsible for his mother's death. Just a theory, though.

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[info]melty_girl
2006-01-13 01:29 am UTC (link)
Oh yeah, that's right... that strange things happen when he's around... like plane crashes? Or was that Hurley's fault? :>

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[info]graceless_gh
2006-01-13 04:00 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't strictly call Jack a lifesaver. He certainly let some people die by choosing not to work on them - ie Shannons father who was the victim of the crash.

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[info]slsgirl5
2006-01-13 05:34 am UTC (link)
dude, but he chose not to save shannon's father so that he could save another's life. doesn't that get a special category of "confusing?"

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[info]spidurman
2006-01-13 06:40 am UTC (link)
no, that's just every day in medicine...

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[info]graceless_gh
2006-01-13 01:51 pm UTC (link)
I'm still miffed over the fact he chose to save the cause of the crash [which he was aware of] rather than the victim. I presume he saved the chick because she was hot..?

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[info]rookie131
2006-01-14 06:38 am UTC (link)
He was working on her before Shannon's dad came in and I think she had a better chance of surviving.

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[info]underxenith
2006-01-14 06:08 pm UTC (link)
I think [info]rookie131 is right. I believe he chose to work on her because she had a better chance of survival.

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[info]_the_lorax
2006-01-13 06:07 am UTC (link)
I would place Locke and maybe Hurley in the "manslaughter" category -- Locke for Boone, and Hurley because of the accidents that happen around him. Though I would be iffy about it -- I think it would be easier to place Hurley when we find out what he did to wind up in a mental institution.

Also, Charlie murdered Ethan.

But I realize your theory is pre-island.

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[info]boicrazyrican
2006-01-13 10:01 am UTC (link)
didnt Hurley establish that he worked at the mental institution? I remember him saying something that made it seem pretty clear he was an employee.

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[info]_the_lorax
2006-01-13 12:51 pm UTC (link)
I don't remember that. It was my understanding that he was actually a patient with the other guy who talked about the numbers.

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[info]melty_girl
2006-01-14 04:18 pm UTC (link)
I know what you're saying about Locke, but I'd still have to disagree that it was manslaughter. Boone wasn't forced to take the risks he did. He was always puppy-doggish around Locke and Jack and wanted to take risks to be a leader, even if he didn't really always have the good judgement required.

But yes, Locke and Charlie didn't commit murder pre-island.

Good point about Hurley. Hope we find out soon.

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[info]abbierose
2006-01-13 09:21 am UTC (link)
hmm good theory, if you think about Walt though, if that was really him projecting in the jungle it's kind of his fault Shannon was killed. So he could be an accessory to murder. Plus, and, this isn't the same as killing a person, but remember his flashback a while ago he was talking about birds and all the sudden teh bird he was talking about flew into the glass and died. That's kinda weird.
In that respect, Locke would be an accessory to murder, or involuntary manslaughter with the whole Boone thing.

Abbie

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[info]tynkerbelle
2006-01-13 09:52 am UTC (link)
Also a lot of them had family members die... Shannon's dad, Kate's sweetheart, Jack's dad, Walt's mom and Michael's ex, Hurley's grandfather... in other words, death seems pretty significant with this show.

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[info]tynkerbelle
2006-01-13 09:52 am UTC (link)
oh and of course, Eko's brother.

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[info]melty_girl
2006-01-14 04:19 pm UTC (link)
Excellent point!

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[info]tynkerbelle
2006-01-14 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Errr.. Kate's mom.

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[info]ms_elusive
2006-01-13 02:29 pm UTC (link)
I thought about that the other day. Many of the survivors have killed people, and I think that manslaughter, as mentioned by several people above, should be included in this statement.
Charlie killed Ethan! I think we may well find out about other characters having killed people in their past as the time goes by.

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[info]sharikazoid
2006-01-13 02:42 pm UTC (link)
I was watching the first 4 episodes of Season one and that scene were Hurley says he isn't good around blood, it kinda made me think that maybe it was some type of hint to something. Or he could just be squeamish, but you never know.

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[info]mouseykins1
2006-01-13 03:30 pm UTC (link)
I think this ties in with my "good person/bad person" theory. The people that haven't killed people or saved people are "good people" and are "pure". These people (and all the children) are good for experiments, while the "bad people" aren't. This is why Claire and Charlie were taken. Also, I believe this is why the computer responds to Michael, but not Jack or Locke.

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[info]melty_girl
2006-01-14 04:21 pm UTC (link)
hmm, interesting.

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[info]mrsbungle
2006-01-24 02:38 am UTC (link)
i'm going along with the good/bad person theory but i think there's more to it. certainly it would explain why they took the children.

the theory i pondered was that having a mole from the Others in both groups that were in the crash those being Ethan (?) and Goodwin, they were able to quickly provide information on the good/bad people and therefore those people were kidnapped accordingly. but people stopped disappearing after they killed off the moles.

course i'm probably going to get muddled here because it's been awhile since i saw season 1, but people they took post-mole have been returned/spotted alive (claire/walt) with the exception of Cindy who remains to be seen.

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