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@ 2005-07-30 14:45:00
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In defense of Ron and Hermione (mostly Hermione)

I've heard a lot of comments about "the character assassination of Hermione Granger" in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and the way she was horribly mistreated by J.K. Rowling, who wrote Hermione OOC throughout the whole book. Now, I don't agree that "no one can be OOC if the original author wrote the story, because it's her canon," because everyone, including original authors, can make mistakes. However, I don't think Hermione was OOC in HBP, and though I was disappointed with some aspects of the book, I was pleased as punch with Hermione and the dawning of the Ron/Hermione relationship. That's why I'm here to defend it and explain my interpretation of Hermione's (and to a lesser extent, Ron's) actions and feelings.

First, a disclaimer: I'm not going to argue whether Ron and Hermione's relationship dynamic is a healthy, ideal one or not, nor am I posting this to listen to arguments about how Harry and Hermione are a better match. You can believe that if you want, but that's not the point of this post. This post is based on the canon that Ron and Hermione like each other – in that way - regardless of whether individual readers believe that to be a positive or negative thing.

Moving on…

We all know that Ron and Hermione have the typical "bickering couple" vibe. Sometimes, their arguments turn nasty – such as the Scabbers/Crookshanks fiasco which had them not speaking to each other for…what, a month? It's a serious fight, one that tears the Trio apart, but resolved after Ron offers to work on the Buckbeak case and Hermione apologizes to Ron. Their friendship is as good as new.

Of course, then comes the Yule Brawl, which changes everything. Ron and Hermione don't have the same period of silence they did after Scabbersgate, but there's a little tension in the air, and they're a little too polite to each other, almost as if they're too embarrassed to bring up the implied meanings in their words. Why? Well, then they'd have to admit that they like each other, and the idea of starting a romantic relationship is scary. Who wouldn't be scared to wake up and realize, "I have the hots for my best friend!" Instead of choosing what is right – admitting to their feelings and being together – they choose what is easy, and dance around their emotions.

Then their relationship takes an unexpected turn in Order of the Phoenix. Ron and Hermione certainly continue to argue, but they don't come close to having the thundering Yule Brawl. In fact, most of the time, they're on the same side, trying to talk sense into Harry. When the subject of Viktor Krum comes up, Ron doesn't accuse Viktor of "using" Hermione or shout at Hermione for "fraternizing with the enemy," but settles for calling him "Vicky" and saving his anti-Viktor feelings for a moment alone with Harry.

Their mutual good will continues into Half-Blood Prince. Their bickering is minor in the beginning of the book. Hermione, in particular, seems a little more relaxed, as she doesn't nag people as much as she used to. She comes across a situation where her loyalty to her friends smacks right into her belief in doing what's right and playing by the rules – the Gryffindor Quidditch tryouts. She sees that McLaggen is a threat to Ron's getting the Keeper position on the team. Now, if McLaggen had been a good sport, I don't think Hermione would've Confunded him. But seeing that McLaggen was an asshole who made nasty comment after nasty comment about Ron and Ginny – two very good friends of Hermione – I don't find it unbelievable for a second that Hermione hissed the curse out of anger without really thinking about it. Her blushing and hesitancy after the tryouts suggests that Hermione is embarrassed and perhaps a little regretful about breaking her own rules, but her rationalization to Harry when he confronts her proves something we've always known about her: friendship and loyalty are more important to her than anything else. (I don't think I need to point out that Hermione turned out to be right about McLaggen after all, seeing as he nearly killed Harry during an attempt to show off).

Anyway, I think this clash between "Hermione's loyalty to friends" and "Hermione's code of honesty" makes her a little nervous. But her confidence is boosted when she notices how Ron is still clearly besotted with her, as he needs to show off and list his fanciable qualities she's talking about Harry's appeal. Finally, she gathers up the courage to ask Ron to the party – appropriately enough, during the middle of an argument – and it looks like smooth sailing from then on.

But this is Ron and Hermione. The bickering couple. The transition between "friends" to "boyfriend/girlfriend" can't possibly be as smooth sailing as Harry/Ginny was. They're both stubborn as hell and determined not to talk about their vulnerability. Of course this is going to cause problems almost immediately, and it explodes with Ron snogging Lavender and Hermione attacking Ron with canaries.

First, see it from Ron's point of view. I don't think he was right to treat Hermione (or Lavender, for that matter) the way he did, but I can still understand it. He's just stumbled upon Ginny kissing Dean – no big brother is going to act rationally when he sees his little sister kissing someone. Then Ginny teases him for his lack of experience with girls, and Ron has to deal with being emasculated by his little sister in front of his best friend. Then he hears that Hermione kissed Viktor Krum. Yes, it's stupid for Ron to get mad over something that happened two years ago, but he knows that Hermione and Viktor are still pen pals, so it's not a completely erroneous assumption that there might be something between them. Then something happens which I believe is Ron's last straw: the Felix Felicis incident. Hermione nags him all day about it, and Ron's feelings get hurt. From the way he sees it, Hermione doesn't think Ron could've done well in the game if he hadn't taken the potion. Incredibly hurt that Hermione apparently doesn't have faith in his abilities, Ron needs to prove something to her, and he does that by kissing Lavender. He's high off of winning the Quidditch match, excited that he didn’t need the potion to do well in the game, and he's a horny teenage boy. It's not nice of him, but I can't say I blame him.

Now, for Hermione's point of view – She's taken a huge step for herself by asking Ron to the party. While Hermione may be confident about her intellect, she's insecure about her looks and desirability, so asking out a boy she's had a crush on for at least two years, who also happens to be one of her best friends, is courageous. Since she's been nursing her crush on him for so long, she has more to lose. She feels proud of herself for taking that step, and excited (and nervous) about the upcoming party. Then she notices that Ron is acting distant and weird to her for no apparent reason. She can't get a word out of him or Harry to explain Ron's odd behavior, leaving her hurt, confused, and upset. The Felix Felicis potion makes her even tenser; not only is this breaking the rules, but she doesn't think Ron should have to prove himself by using outside help. Ron may think Hermione doesn't have faith in his abilities, but I think Hermione was upset about Felix Felicis because she does have faith in him, and she's disappointed that he doesn't seem to have much faith in himself. The last straw for her is seeing Ron kiss Lavender. After receiving mixed messages and the cold shoulder from Ron, only to see him kiss another girl merely days after he agreed to go with her to a party, makes her blow her top off and attack with canaries.

A few weeks pass with Ron and Hermione doing everything they can to make each other jealous. Neither one of them is willing to admit they were wrong, or why their feelings were hurt so deeply. It's a matter of stubbornness and pride with them.

Then everything changes when Ron almost dies. Hermione, along with everyone else, is distraught. Unlike everyone else, Hermione can barely even speak about the event, and remains in a state of shock.

Ron recovers. And after that, there's a remarkable change in Ron and Hermione's relationship. They're getting along better than ever. They barely exchange a harsh word with another, and their sniping has transformed into gentle kidding. They become supportive of one another. After years of hiding their feelings, they are finally ready to expose their vulnerabilities to each other, evidenced by Hermione's open sobbing and Ron's comforting her at Dumbledore's funeral.

No, I don't think Hermione's character was ruined in HBP. I also don't think that character development has to be a constant upward climb. Sometimes people have regressions and have to take two steps back before they can take three steps forward. I believe that happened with both Ron and Hermione, that they both had to grow down before they grew up.

As for the "what about SPEW and Hermione's subplots?" question, my only answer is this: JK Rowling pushed several different subplots to the side in HBP, not just Hermione's SPEW crusade. The book was shorter than both OotP and GoF and there wasn't enough space to cover everything. I'm personally more disappointed at less Luna, Neville, and grieving for Sirius than I am for the lack of Hermione's uninformed opinions on elvish welfare. But JKR didn't drop SPEW for the sake of Ron/Hermione, or even Harry/Ginny, or any other ships a small-but-vocal portion of the fandom hated. She needed to establish some important backstory and develop a relationship between the main character and another important character before she killed someone off. The main players in the book were Harry, Dumbledore, Tom Riddle/Voldemort, and Snape. J.K. Rowling didn't forget SPEW because she sekritly hates Hermione, OMG! She just thought Dumbledore, Voldemort, and Snape were more essential to the story.



Edited because my cut-tags were wrong. D'oh!




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[info]agentcabanas
2005-07-30 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Well-stated and well-organized. :) I most agree with you on Jo's decisions to throw a major boulder in Ron & Hermione's romantic progression (Lavender, Ron nearly dying, Hermione making the mistake about the Lucky serum), because now it sets up some very interesting and positive attractions to come in Book Seven.

I chuckled at this part:

"Hermione may be confident about her intellect, she's insecure about her looks and desirability, so asking out a boy she's had a crush on for at least two years, who also happens to be one of her best friends, is courageous."

AWIE. I admit one of my favorite things about Hermione is her strongly-guarded insecurities. The less I know about what she's afraid of or what embarrases her, the more I find myself curious to find out more. Unlike Ron, obviously, who makes no secret of his fears, Hermione has too deep a sense of propriety not let anyone see her vulnerable. That's a shame, really, as part of the fun of reading the HP books for me have always been the oft-too-rare moments when Ron & Hermione are at their least dignified. Especially in HBP, there were several moments when I wanted to pick Hermione up and snug her to death. She's been through a lot! when it comes to Ron, hasn't she? I almost covered my eyes and refused to read more when it came time for Ron to ignore her utterly and coldly after hearing what she (MAY) have did with Krum. ;)

So, this was a very interesting article to read. I don't often see things explained from Hermione's point-of-view, as people are used to the fact that she's so rational her character needs no explaining. If you could please put this behind an LJ-cut, that would be great. And thanks for sharing!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:12 pm UTC (link)
Unlike Ron, obviously, who makes no secret of his fears, Hermione has too deep a sense of propriety not let anyone see her vulnerable. That's a shame, really, as part of the fun of reading the HP books for me have always been the oft-too-rare moments when Ron & Hermione are at their least dignified.

I know, right? That's probably why I don't care for the PoA movie so much. I love watching Hermione slowly crumble under the pressure of taking too many classes and being separated from her two friends, and in the movie, all we get is her popping up during classes and being bitchy to Ron about Scabbers (wtf?!) I mean, I always liked Hermione a lot, but in SS she only joined the group near the middle of the book, she was MIA for a good part of CoS, so PoA was when I really fell in love with the character.

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[info]lambobrat
2005-07-30 07:14 pm UTC (link)
whew!!Cheers to that! I agree with you completely!*toasts to Ron and Hermione*

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:12 pm UTC (link)
Woohoo!

Hee, neat icon.

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[info]lambobrat
2005-07-31 04:40 pm UTC (link)
thanks..I like yours too ;)

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[info]ms_suplada
2005-07-30 07:19 pm UTC (link)
J.K. Rowling didn't forget SPEW because she sekritly hates Hermione, OMG! She just thought Dumbledore, Voldemort, and Snape were more essential to the story.

I agree! Snape = HBP.. yeah. Very essential indeed!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:13 pm UTC (link)
This book, more than any other, seems to me the time for some of the adult characters to take center stage, y'know? And as I find Snape completely fascinating, I don't have a problem with that. :)

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[info]mrs_luthor
2005-07-30 07:57 pm UTC (link)
Hm, what's the word I'm looking for...oh, right: brilliant.

It put a huge smile on my face and made me even more proud of being a sidekicker.

Thank you very much for sharing those excellent observations, it makes me glad to know that we have such smart people among the R/Hr shippers ;)

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:14 pm UTC (link)
Aww, stop it, I'm blushing! :)

And OMG, I love your icon. I'm starting to like Harry/Ginny in spite of myself, but my heart will always be with Harry and Luna.

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[info]mrs_luthor
2005-07-31 08:14 pm UTC (link)
It's cute isn't it? And I love yours too ^^"

*waves her LUNA IS THE BEST & H/L IS LOVE banner*

*bows to you for the brilliant essay*

;)

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[info]queenweasley
2005-07-30 08:37 pm UTC (link)
You said everything wonderfully. :)

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:14 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. Love your icon!

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[info]satine59
2005-07-30 09:22 pm UTC (link)
That was incredibly well said. I absolutely agree with your explanations/evaluation of Ron and Hermione's feelings, actions, and motives. That is basically how I also imagined it. Again, that was very well stated.

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

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[info]tennisgrl331
2005-07-30 09:39 pm UTC (link)
that whole thing was very enjoyable to read and I agree with all of it!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! (Aww, your icon is so cute).

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[info]jologs22
2005-07-31 12:05 am UTC (link)
I totally agree with what you said. I don't think that characters should not regress... I mean that would a wee bit boring... To see flaws in them would just make them more real... even if its fiction... so yeah...

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Exactly. Flaws = good.

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[info]goddessdream
2005-07-31 12:21 am UTC (link)
Extremely well written! I love these kinds of essays because they say exactly what I'm thinking (yet I'm not very good at translating it this well into writing!).

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! (Snerk, your icon is funny).

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[info]thatsexykid
2005-07-31 12:23 am UTC (link)
I usually don't read shipping articles and stuff, but I did read this one, and it was very enjoyable!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Thanks; I'm glad you found it worth your time. ;)

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[info]slashysunshine
2005-07-31 01:32 am UTC (link)
Well done!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Thank you!

(Mmm...Dom...)

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[info]slashysunshine
2005-08-01 12:37 am UTC (link)
Mmm, MONABOYD!

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[info]find_me_again
2005-07-31 04:52 am UTC (link)
You did an excellent job explaining this non-OOCness!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Heh, thank you.

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[info]_sugarlily_
2005-07-31 08:04 am UTC (link)
Wow! You said exactly everything I wanted to say but didn't in the lack of enough intelligence. LOL
But really, not in any moment did I think the characters were being OOC - even when Ron was being a jerk and got those well-deserved angry canary birds. After all, as brilliant and brave as Hermione might look, she's still a sixteen-year-old in love( as well as Ron is a hormonal sixteen-year-old in love). She's entitled to have her girlish immature moments, she's young after all. I don't think any of her jealous snagging were ooc (remember how furiously jealous she was when Fleur kissed Ron in GoF?), and I don't think she was so ooc by hexing McLaggen either (we're talking about the girl that set Snape's robes on fire, put a Petrificus Totalus on Neville, stunned Snape in the Shrieking Shack, caused an acne attack on Marietta...and so and so. LOL)
And also, I don't find anything unnatural and abusive in their bickering relationship. After all, during the bickering, they have the chance to let slip some feelings they so eagerly used to hide, and they know they'll make up in the end. Perhaps that's why they're so fond of bickering. LOL

Anyhow, I loved your text. I sure enjoyed seeing their relationship blossoming and developing throughout the books and I'm already looking forward to ron/hermione at book 7!!!

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[info]queenofdenile
2005-07-31 01:20 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, "abusive" is not the adjective that springs to mind when I think about Ron and Hermione. They so clearly fit the archetype of the bickering couple, and I don't hear anyone calling Benedick and Beatrice, Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth, etc, "abusive." Have they hurt each other's feelings before? Of course they have. But hasn't that happened at least once with any two people who really care about each other?

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[info]purpleelefant
2005-07-31 11:09 pm UTC (link)
once again, agreed. I think people who are complaining that Hermione was out of character tend to think she is perfect. They forget that she has shown her faults, no matter how subtley. Or maybe their just not careful enough readers *cough*. This is one of the things I love about the HP books too is the characters, they are all very lovable but yet they all do have significant faults, some more well hidden then others. Even Harry, the hero, has his faults. It makes the character more fascinating and real.

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[info]writermerrin
2005-08-01 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Sometimes I think people either have forgotten what 16 feels like, or they haven't achieved it themselves.

Good essay :)

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[info]wyattcohen
2005-09-17 05:08 pm UTC (link)
Very well written. I never ethought that they acted OOC, the fact that other people did was a new one. But hey, your argumentation was very good. :)

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Well done!
[info]loony_daydreams
2006-01-23 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Brilliantly written essay and so eloquent. Sums everything I could have said and more. Makes me so proud to be a R/Hr shipper! (H/L forever!) I infinately prefer our ship to H/G purely because of all this emotion, and years of built up tension- this is an incredibly long courtship we are talking about. My only shipping gripe in HBP was H/G- too easy! Too obvious! So undeserved, they just sort of fell together, with no hint of a relationship in the previous few books, despite Ginny's preteen mooning over Harry. *sigh* Harry/Luna forever...well anyway- this is about R/Hr, no-one else, so well done again!

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[info]harsh_potter
2006-10-24 01:01 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow!!! You just wrote what I have been itching to write whenever I read some of those "Hermione is OOC in HBP" or "Ron and Hermione just argue and argue and nothing's gonna happen"

I especially agree that poor Hermione is very very very insecure and she tried to hide them. Also..I loveee Hermione when she breaks rules for her friends and then blushes when somebody teases her about breaking rules.
And I was kissing JKR's feet when she hexed Mclaggen (*cheers*) as she did it just for Ron this time.

I felt very sorry for Hermione throughout HBP and couldn't help but feel mutinous about Ron! But I love him all the same...I feel JKR has done a very good job with the characterization of the Trio atleast.

Oh yeah and I loved H/G too

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