Urbia ([info]urbia) wrote in [info]feminist_rage,
@ 2005-04-26 01:04:00
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Victim-blaming with a dash of racism


Asian fetishist terrorizes more than 50 Asian women on college campus.

And it doesn't stop there. Keep reading down to the victim-blaming sentiments expressed in the discussions at the bottom of the page. For clarification on some slangs:

- "yellow cab driver/service" refers to a woman of 'yellow' ethnicity that is easy to 'ride,'
- a "sell-out" is a race traitor term more often applied to Asian women than men,
- CCBs also means white-worshipping Asian women, self-haters, women ashamed of their race just because they date white men, similiar to "sell out," I think,
- a "whoriental" is a term created under the assumption that it is biological for all Asian women to want to be desired,
- "IR" is short for interracial relationship,
- and of course AF and AM mean Asian female and Asian male respectively.

The attitudes are that Asian women should not expect sympathy after they've been raped by white men because, for dating them, they had somehow brought that fate down upon themselves, and that "they are their own worst enemies." The article says that only 8 percent of Asian female victims come forward with reports of rape. I wonder why? The writer of this article is then criticized as a sell-out for commenting on victim-blaming within the Asian culture (not that this is only where it happens). Classic chicken-egg dilemma.

Gotta love the "If only Asian women didn't fill the Dragon Lady roles in movies, this wouldn't happen," argument too. I rarely see people arguing, "If only Asian men didn't take those stereotypical nerdy roles that feminized and desexualized their image! They brought racism upon themselves!" I believe in neither of these, but it does demonstrate the double standards and blaming language.

It's running into things like these that make me feel that if I did type a rant here, I would sound awfully redundant. What isn't there to find offensive in that discussion? It strikes me as ironic that the forum's called "Model Minority: A Guide to Asian-American Empowerment."

A Chinese-Canadian acquaintance of mine had been date-raped and she can't report it out of fear her parents would find out. The culprit is a white guy, a 'friend' of one of our mutual white guy friends. The sickening thing is that they still all bump into each other occasionally and ignore the entire thing. I personally don't know the rape victim that well, and I've never met the culprit. Imagine a wheel of acquaintances with one guy, our mutual friend, as the hub. He told me what happened a year after it happened. When I said we should do something about it, he got all uppity and said it'd be too intrusive and that I should leave it alone, and that a year had passed anyway and she was supposedly recovering from it.

I have no problem plowing over him to get to her-- and on a tangent, he can be irritating when he goes on long tirades about how white males are oppressed nowadays. I just don't know if she'd trust me and I don't know if she'd appreciate it. There's also no proof she would be able to show to anyone, and I just might inadvertantly make it difficult for her. And she's a shy girl, doesn't have that many friends. I wish I could do something.

I fought off a would-be rapist in my first year at university. I got a lot of positive feedback from peers after that one, but sometimes I wonder how it would have been had he been successful.

Sometimes I'm tempted to attend a party with this culprit, toss a drugged martini over my shoulder, and pretend to pass out. Uppercut to the groin on contact. Oops, did I just dragon-lady?



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[info]mellindrax
2005-04-26 10:51 am UTC (link)
"Oops, did I just dragon-lady?"

You just made my day.

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[info]urbia
2005-04-26 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Hehe. ;)

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[info]nerdanel
2005-04-26 12:30 pm UTC (link)
Strangely, *when* these sort of freaks are around, they imagine that Asian women, particularly Oriental, will be "submissive" and "exotic". And they act towards them accordingly. It's bizarre and screwed up.

Also, speaking as an Asian girl myself, wtf is with the sell-out nonsense. I wonder that is an Oriental thing (I'm Asian Indian), or a thing that happens when Asians cluster in a racially based fashion (i.e. that moving outside of that cluster is selling out). Note: not suggesting that Indians are fine with intermarriage - many aren't; I just have never heard the term sell-out. It's more like "parental disobedience". I just informed my parents that I would be "disobeying" from the time I was six, and I intend to "disobey" fully re: choice of life partner :)

I have had crushes on people of every ethnicity I can think of, including but CERTAINLY not limited to Caucasians, and I refuse to have to take race into consideration just because some other people would start whining about "selling out". It's selling out just to go with whomever you want to be with? Or it constitutes some sort of consent to rape? Screw that.

As for Asian women wanting to be desired, hell yeah, I'd say it's probably right. Except I'd have described that as a human attribute - doesn't everyone want to feel that they are desired, wanted, loved, by others?

I don't pretend to know what pressures Asian women of some cultures who have been raped might face, or whether they experience an increased inability to seek their loved ones' support because of family culture. I don't think that would be relevant to my family, but I'm sorry that it's relevant to anyone's. I'm sure it might have something to do with the low reporting rate.

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[info]urbia
2005-04-26 11:21 pm UTC (link)
The 'selling out' term presumes that every Asian woman, because of her ethnicity, has an automatic duty to remain "loyal" to her culture. I hate this term. It's got so many holes in it to be filled with arbitrary judgement. The thing's like Swiss cheese!

Hole 1, because she's born with a certain skin colour, she's got to conform to certain expectations. Hole 2, these expectations are defined by ... gasp, who else but the head of the house? Hole 3, there's an automatic assumption there's something to sell out-- what if certain things were not conditioned into the woman and she was raised to think for herself? Hole 4, it's the fault of the woman. Hole 5, there's someone to "buy" her if she "sells" herself out, and therefore she's property. Hole 6, it is assumed she originally "belonged" to males of her skin colour. And it goes on.

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[info]sparrow77
2005-04-26 02:11 pm UTC (link)
Well that's a lovely little piece of tripe >:/

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[info]urbia
2005-04-26 11:23 pm UTC (link)
It's just charming. >P

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[info]such_are_queens
2005-04-26 08:36 pm UTC (link)
asdjf;kwe.

Makes me SO ANGRY. "If Asian women didn't play the dragon-lady part" -- uh, HI. Maybe if Hollywood offered more roles to Asian women besides prostitute/dragon lady/sweatshop laborer, they wouldn't be so marginalized.

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[info]urbia
2005-04-26 11:13 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, ever notice all the hate against Lucy Liu for taking these roles? It's her career and like other people in the industry, she'd probably want to advance into better roles and take whatever's available to her to prove herself as an actress. Horrible system, but she's survived.

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[info]urbia
2005-04-26 11:49 pm UTC (link)
*re-reads comment* What I meant was that she had to do what she had to do to survive.

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[info]such_are_queens
2005-04-26 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Also: "Do not let the white man get his way with our women. We must be protectors of our people!"

VOMIT.

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