Chris ([info]aelien27) wrote in [info]empaths,
@ 2001-11-09 01:24:00
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I've found that when things get really hairy...when I'm in a situation with too many strong emotions bombarding me...I go the opposite way from my norm and become completely insensitive. I read Interview With The Vampire not so long ago, and I remember reading the term 'vampire eyes', and it struck me as just how I react to those situations. I become so detached to the rest of the world, as though I were the one immortal thing surrounded by all these meaningless mortal concerns. Grief over this inevitable death, shock over that childish act of terrorism... It all ceases to have any meaning, and I feel like a wanderer watching children over-react at the plight of a fallen bird. I continue to function in this way; letting nothing in, and feeling nothing on my own; for days or weeks, as the situation permits. I don't think any one person was meant to feel the pain of hundreds, and if it weren't for this reaction, I'd have long since died of others' grief. How do the rest of you react to things that cause a strong uniform reaction in those around you?




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AKA Leaving your body...
[info]pamc
2001-11-09 01:40 am UTC (link)
Not in the Out-Of-Body-Experience way, but I think you get the idea.

Your post reminds me of a game we used to play as kids up in Lake Michagan after a storm. The waves would be huge and a real challenge to deal with. But one thing was certain: if you tried to muscle trhough teh wave, the wave would bowl you over. If you went with the wave, you had a pleasing ride to shore.

How do you feel when the crisis hits? How do you feel knowing how everyone else feels? Are you resisting the feelings because you're afraid they'll overwhelm you? Perhaps if you allowed them to wash -through- you, if you opened yourself at both ends of your soul, you wouldn't have to shut down. It would mean having to feel what's going on, but it's a pleasing ride to the shore.

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[info]nolf
2001-11-09 01:31 pm UTC (link)
i would say, be weary of this. isolating yourself does just that. isolates you. when you do that for a long time, its like being in the dark.

when you get back into the light, your eyes fuckin hurt. if you stay in the dark too long, when you come back, things will be way to intense for you. i would recommend expending energy in a positive way using your "gifts." I have found that this helps me cope with the un-copable.

keep us posted.
Namasté,
greg

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Re: Plato's Allegory of the Cave
[info]panther1397779
2004-08-15 07:52 am UTC (link)
There is truth in both what nolf says and plato's quote.
Both light and darkness is needed if one want to see it all.
And what is darkness without light, or light without darkness.

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[info]saizai
2001-11-09 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Well... I know this.

I was like that for many years.

It worked, I guess; I didn't feel anything. But eventually, I started feeling cold; now it's breaking down.

I don't know if I regret it.

All I can say is... take heed; dissociation is a dangerous tool.

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[info]anothertale
2004-07-21 08:18 pm UTC (link)
I think that detatchment can be good in moderation. However, eventually, I begin feeling cold, and then I become lonely and unhappy. So, yeah, all things in moderation. ^.^
Of course.. there IS the difficult task of deciding, "What is too much, and what is too little?"

-Shadow-

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[info]panther1397779
2004-08-15 07:49 am UTC (link)
I have experienced the same, but know i can turn it off or on at will. Even when somebody close died I didn't feel anything, my family thought it was because I held it in, but I think it just was because I looked upon death as a natural thing, it is uanvoidable and comes for all sooner or later, and the one who died was old and had lived a full life, it was just her time.
I've also a strong belief in the balance of everything, for example there will always be something positive and something negative with everything, wheter one like it or not, or wants to see it or not. Even wars have something positive about them, as they make us stronger, and wiser. We learn from it even if it is just to not repeat the act. Or to defend oureslves from an outside force. The human race are very much like children we are still learning. The more we learn the stronger and wiser we will grow, but of course first we must open up to receive the knowledge and remember it instead of trying to forget all the bad things that have happened or that we have done, or we will be doomed to repeat our mistake over and over again.
Something good can also come from war like freeing a whole people from a tyrant or dicatator, that would in his time have killed many more people than a war would. Sometimes it is wiser to act, instead of waiting and let many more die or hurt, while we wait and talk. While we talk he will be laughing behind our back, because he would only be stalling, and does not care for what we might have to say. After all not all are willing to listen.

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[info]callmesilver
2005-09-24 05:43 am UTC (link)
Well, I'm new here, so I don't know if anybody is going to reply to this or not...

For me, my boyfriend is also an empath. When one of us gets upset, the other picks up on and takes that emotion on themselves. Now we seem to be caught in a loop. Only thing that seems is going to break that is one or the other of us "shutting down", blocking the other out. I don't know how to deal with this, shutting out the few that I allow truly inside my mind and heart is not something I like, ever. But is that what it will take? Is there any other way to break the cycle? Even at a distance, we still feel each other.

Best way to describe us is "split aparts". Would it be easier to just leave for a couple days and shut it out then, out of sight out of mind? I don't know. Has anybody else dealt with this sort of thing before?

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[info]ar_wahan
2005-11-28 12:09 am UTC (link)
Wow. I know this is an older post of yours, from before I joined, but I just found it in looking that the community's info page. You describe me and my husband well (I am in your boyfriend's role, and my husband is in yours... sort of). I would react in great pain to my mother's verbal and emotional abuse, and instead of comforting me, he would get angry at *me*, as if I were abusing him! (And no, I was not projecting my hurt onto him or screaming at him or anything -- just crying by myself.) My daughter (also an empath) told me he was an empath, as well (even though he would have denied it), and that he just couldn't handle the energy coming from me. Since my mother tended to attack me during times when he was also battling Seasonal Affective Disorder, he was more vulnerable, perhaps, because of the depression he was experiencing (and maybe all the alcohol -- but that's another story).

The way we learned to overcome this was that I developed more self-esteem by attending a leadership program sponsored by my religious denomination; without realizing it, I think I learned to "non-attach" (as Saizai puts it) and not let her push my buttons as much. So instead of hysterical weeping, I might just get briefly pissed, or even find humor in her behavior. It also gave me the courage to confront the "elephant in (my) living room." My husband went cold turkey. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!!

I hate to say this, but the other thing that really seemed to work is that a year ago, ,my mother died. The constant "background noise" I was getting from her disappeared. My marriage is stronger and healthier now than it is perhaps ever been. (FYI, she came to me in spirit as she was dying and we are at peace.)

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[info]ar_wahan
2005-11-28 12:11 am UTC (link)
Sorry for the typos...

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OP returns!
[info]aelien27
2005-11-28 08:11 am UTC (link)
After four years, I suppose it's time to update. I've learned a lot in this time about dealing with my responses to the world around me. The old detachment has become a sort of peace with the way things play out. I've learned how to trigger certain emotional responses in my brain without any outside stimulus. This means essentially that I can feel how I want to feel, when I want to feel it. I haven't got it figured out with all emotions (there are just too many!), but I can trigger happiness, sadness, stress, aggression, total situational awareness, and a few others at will.

Having that kind of perspective on the nature of emotion has made it much easier to cope with what I still assume to be the truth about empathy: that others' emotions are being unconsciously broadcast and that I'm somehow receiving and experiencing them.

Now for some advice on the topic of this original post:
Intense events tend to trigger these intense emotional bursts, and becoming detached is not unlike pulling your hand away from a fire after that first sharp sensation of being burned. While it's true that detaching oneself from the emotional reality of a situation will end the pain, the side-effects can have an even larger impact in the long term.

It's been mentioned here that people detaching themselves emotionally from a situation will find that their behavior is attacked by those around them reacting "normally". I've been attacked myself for appearing unaffected, and it can permanently color another's opinion of you if your behavior doesn't fall in line with the people around you.

On top of that, I've noticed in my own case that detaching from a situation means not dealing with the emotions of that situation and thus having one more skeleton to occupy your closet. The odds are that your feelings aren't going to sort themselves out without conscious thought and reflection on your part, so try not to postpone it for too long.

Above all else, don't use the supernatural as a focus to avoid confronting the real and immediate issues in your life. When I became the most concerned with the meaning of the universe, the reason behind this terrible curse of empathy that made me so unique and special among my peers, and all these other invisible hatchet men that plagued my life, I was also out of a job, had lost my home and my girlfriend, and had a long and daunting road ahead of me in the effort to put my life back together. This piece of advice is only for those of you who felt a twinge while reading the preceding paragraph. A moment's reflection should reveal to you whether you're looking for a bit of magic in everyday life, or whether you're looking for a magic escape from everyday life.

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[info]amaya_moonstone
2007-12-10 01:46 am UTC (link)
It's sad, but I agree with you entirely. I'm exactly the same way. When the trvial emotions of others pile up more and more and more and it feels like it's forcing everything I feel (namely any hints of depression) to multiply until it's staggering, everything sort of shuts itself down. And yeah, the longest I've ever had it last is several days. I won't get into details as to what has caused it before, but I know exactly what you mean. It's almost good to know I'm not alone in experiencing this, but I'm sorry. Nobody should have to. (One of the things that makes me wonder if this is more of a blessing or a burden....)

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