En he'duanna ([info]soaring) wrote in [info]empaths,
@ 2002-01-10 13:28:00
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Heya party people :)
Ditto other new subscribers comments :)

Also, on the subject of shielding - I've never labelled it as such but I believe I've developed a shield for dealing with large crowds from childhood. Basically I close in on myself - I walk very fast, often head down or determinedly fixed on where I'm going, and I fill my thoughts with myself. I dive into my own thoughts, ponder life the universe and everything, have imaginary conversations with friends, write my next journal edit in my head, anything. When I was at school I used to read a book while walking home. I invariably walk straight past people I know in this state, and have been told off for ignoring friends in the street.

I don't know if this is a good or bad shield, but it works. I couldn't bear to feel what some of you are describing - it's bad enough with just one person draining you with their negativity.

I also have problems with anger, and it's the main reason for the end of my recent relationship. He gets angry (although never directed at me) very quickly, but also just as quickly feels better, after he's had a good rant and strop. I however feel bruised by it, even though I'm never the focus, I still feel drained and it takes me a lot longer to feel good again. And generally I'm quite happy and optimistic - it usually takes a lot to make me depressed and/or angry, and he manages both within minutes! I think if I had to deal with a crowd (especially as most crowds are an irritable, impatient, grumpy bunch of people) I'd burst into tears everytime I went out my front door. I do have difficulty shielding in small group or one-on-one situations though - in that I don't know how to at all!

Thankfully I have friends who give out positive energy, and just being around them uplifts me.

I'm glad to have found this group too. Thanks shimmeringjemmy for starting it :)




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[info]jenett
2002-01-10 07:59 am UTC (link)
For me, it's not just crowds that are a problem (I don't like crowds, but at least part of that isn't just the people, it's the fact I'm 5' and so I can't see what's going on at all)

I have shields up all the time - did in college, did after that. I especially do now, because I work in a high school library, and rampant high emotions and stress tend to be quite present.

The way I *started* with mine was to more or less visualise a 'sound' filter between me and the rest of the world - it has little sliding switches that I can manuever to adjust the amount of stuff coming through (just like you can fiddle with balance/treble/bass on a stereo)

Other visualisations might be a big soft fluffy blanket between you and the world. Some people use white, yellow, or blue light. Once I got my shields up and working, it's generally very easy to keep them up, except sometimes with someone I'm very close to.

My husband is much more prone to strong emotions than I am and I sometimes have the same issue with him (particularly as he's one of the people whose emotions I'm always aware of, and have trouble blocking out.)

How we handle it is that he knows that I'll respond to his anger, and that it'll make me edgy and uncomfortable. And so if he gets angry at something else, sometimes he'll go vent about it to another room, or else he'll vent, and then go outside for a little, so that I have time to settle down. A little grounding and centering work on my part really helps, too.

Mostly, though, the fact that he simply *acknowledges* that he knows it'll throw me for a bit, and doesn't expect me to immediately rebound has oddly made it much easier for me to recover from such things much more quickly. With my ex-fiance, he'd get upset, and expect me to bounce back as quickly as he did, and then be upset if I didn't - and his being upset would make me edgy and uncertain for *much* longer.

Hope this helps.

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[info]nolf
2002-01-10 11:43 am UTC (link)
i was never exposed to the technical terms of this world til very recently myself. i didn't think there was enough of us to actually have terms.

so i fully developed on my own, as you seem to have.

i've found that i don't sheild, well, in the way of blocking. i'm also telepathic, and that's my empathy go BOTH ways. i'm able to shoulder the weight of everyone in the room and such, and help many people. but when i'm happy or overwhelmed, I "help" others feel and see that. If that doesn't work, I take slighty more drastic measures than putting out a vibe.

But i've found that shielding myself away, is like refusing to use this gift/curse. I let the world bring me down. Cause when I hit bottom, and get back up, the world gets up a little with my. Call it a martyr complex if you'd like, but it works for me.

But i'm not trying to say my methods are for anyone else, but me:)

glad you found us:)

all the love to you
namasté

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The martyr complex :)
[info]soaring
2002-01-10 03:15 pm UTC (link)
I've tried it. And failed. People everywhere turn to me for help, support, comfort, and while at the time they start interacting with me, I will be there for them, when it comes to long term support, I've had to limit myself to a special few. It was so bad my ex-fiance labelled me as the group's 'agony aunt' (and this is no small group, mind, and also a group filled with real depression, self-harm, abuse).

I just found it too draining. Especially when some of those who turned to me for support then turned on me - I can't say I enjoy feeling like a used tissue! I would dearly love to be able to help all those who look to me, and feel guilty when I can't, but I've learnt sometimes I just have to say no can do. I simply don't have the strength when my own life situation is in a turmoil.

Maybe once I feel stable again, and with a partner who understands (oh for an empath! I have some empathic friends but none of them are male), I will be able to live as you live namasté.

I really hope one day I can :)

Thanks for everyone's thoughts, I never thought I'd find a group like this (and likewise, I didn't know any technical terms either!) :)

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Re: The martyr complex :)
[info]nolf
2002-01-10 03:20 pm UTC (link)
I hear that. i am pretty much without my "match" as well.

And just cause you don't have the strength to do that today, doesn't mean forever.

But every word you spoke, I've lived. It took time and practice for me to get here. Trial and error, and a lot of heartache.

But I'm glad to took my little trek. I just hope it leads me into the arms of a woman whom understands this world. But i know you know just how i mean:)

All the love to you, and i'll always be here, if you ever decied to take a trek of your own.

namasté

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Re: The martyr complex :)
[info]lifesps
2004-11-07 10:12 am UTC (link)
Gosh,

Girlfriend, I think the two of us will be fighting over men on this group! Isn't it true that you dont really find empathetic males and if they are empathetic, a lot of them are so confused that you end up helping them out more than you?

We need to recruit for some empathetic males!!!

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