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April 12th, 2008
phr00tie
 | 06:09 am - Webcomic fanarts
Where do webcomic fanarts go? Fan Quarter or SF&F?
I'm not talking about huge, well-known webcomics such as Inverloch, Applegeeks, etc. I mean small, obscure comics. Intuitively, I'd think they fit in the same category as "friend's character" (I AM friends with some of the authors after all XD) but I'm not sure.
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March 29th, 2008
talysman
 | 07:30 am - Rules Addendums/Changes
I was recently notified that over half the pieces in my gallery were "borderline", and were going to be removed. I've looked into the rules regarding this (and had a several page e-mail discussion with a member of the ERB), and I find that the rules in question seriously need to be revamped and/or changed, or removed entirely. However, every time I attempt to send that message back to the ERB (to either address with which I was corresponding earlier), the e-mail bounces with "permission denied". My question is this: to whom do I apply/lobby/complain in order to attempt to get rules modified/changed?
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January 21st, 2008
seachild_elf
 | 07:54 pm - HTML use in Wyvern's Library
In the rejection mail of my last story, the moderator said I should not use MS Word to make HTML-files. Since I used Ms Word for all my other uploaded stories, I am a little bit confused. The lay-out of the story looked fine when I hit 'view' so I'm not sure why MS Word isn't good, but I'm sure there's some perfectly good reason I'm not aware of.
If using MS Word to make your stories into HTML-files is discouraged, I take it this should at least be mentioned somewhere in the rules. My question is mainly: I found no mention of it anywhere in the rules, the story upload page, FARP or any other place. Did I miss it? There should be some way for people to find this out, right?
Let me stress that using MS Word was not the reason why my story got rejected, there were other issues. But if a moderator finds it important to warn me off MS word, there's got to be something about it.
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April 3rd, 2007
phr00tie
| 01:25 am - Violence/gore question (SF&F)
Two violence/gore related entries in a row...
Anyway, I was wondering if this picture would be too gory for Elfwood?
http://keiiii.gfxartist.com/artworks/145881
The blob in the foreground is the vampire guy's heart. Since the heart is blurred and rather ambiguous in visual (although with text description, it would be clear), would this be acceptable in SF&F?
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February 18th, 2007
bassist_steve
 | 10:06 am - What should I expect?
I've read the rules for graphics and written word, but the line for violence in written work isn't too clear. I've submitted some chapters from a book I'm writing, and the first chapter contains a torture scene in which the torture instruments are graphically described, as well as the victims pain and blood. The victim survives the process just as a side note, but I was wondering how the mods would see this? I also want to know whether battle scenes in my novel will later come under question, because I'd rather describe the battle in detail rather than the Tolkien "....and they clove through the enemy ranks..." vague battle style. How much is too much in a novel? Any comments appreciated.
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January 23rd, 2007
askamar_journal
 | 12:19 pm - Solutions for Borderline Art
This has been puzzling me for some time, so I finally thought I ought to ask. I like to draw my characters, but unfortunately pictures of my immortal-mages-who-dwell-in-a-magical-dimension are considered borderline. This is because, although they dress in flowing robes, my characters basically look human. Since only 50% of my gallery is allowed to be borderline, I've been trying to think up ways to make as many of my pictures as possible 'clear'. Also, I want to be sure which of my pictures are borderline, and which aren't.
Here are my questions:
1) If I draw a portrait of a character, and include a dragon/monster/imaginary creature in the border, does that stop the picture from being borderline? For example, is this picture considered 'clear' because the dragon is an obvious fantasy element, or borderline because the dragon is just decorative, rather than 'real'?
2) If I have a statue of a dragon/monster/imaginary creature in the picture, does that count as an obvious fantasy element, or is the picture still borderline, because statues of dragons etc can exist in real life?
3) Do red/gold/purple eyes count as an obvious fantasy element (like in this picture, for example)? I'd guess that red eyes would, but I'm not sure about gold and purple eyes, and also, since eye-colour might be something that's easy to miss, it might not be considered an obvious fantasy element.
Thanks!
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January 10th, 2007
phr00tie
| 03:41 pm - Ticket approvals + Gaiaonline
Question...
How does the ticket approval thing work? When a ticket contains stuff that should be approved and stuff that shouldn't be, what's supposed to happen? Does everything in the ticket get disapproved? Or do the "OK" materials get published?
I just got a SF&F ticket disapproved because two of the pictures contained characters that should be in the FanQuarter. The third picture was kosher for SF&F. I'm just worried that because all three pictures were done for the same art contest (which I mentioned in the description), maybe a moderator thought the third picture too was FanQuarter material.
Speaking of FanQuarter, please post a working link to the moderator's dictionary? Sometimes it's not daylight-clear whether or not something's considered fanart, and it's not cool to wait for 40+ days to find out. ^_^;
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A related issue -- my ticket got disapproved because two of the pictures contained characters that represented Gaiaonline avatars. I find this strange. Consider this case:
Smith has created his own universe in which he RPs with his friends. He wants to commission artists to draw his RP character, but finds that artists generally prefer to have a visual reference. Then he comes across gaiaonline.com, and discovers a solution to his problem: create an avatar that looks like his character, and have the artists draw from that!
The character exists outside of gaiaonline.com. He has nothing to do with the official Gaia plot/ the world they use in the official plot. Therefore, the resulting art is not a fanart in my opinion. Yes, the artwork will be based off the avatar, but how is that any different than a commissioner providing a picture of a Final Fantasy character and saying, "my character looks a lot like this, except change this and this and this" ? (To make things clear, I'm not talking about RP characters that exist in the Final Fantasy world)
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July 26th, 2006
jadewik
 | 03:43 pm - Definition of Sci-Fi and Fantasy
I'm a slightly annoyed with the definition of Sci-Fi/Fantasy that's going 'round Elfwood. Most of my art is "fantasy" art, but more towards boardline fantasy than "OMG" Fantasy. Many of my characters exist in a fantasy environment, but because I am just drawing characters for other people (for free) and would rather not put in backgrounds, if they're human and non-magic, they generally get rejected-- especiall if the person asks for a non-magical pose.
For example, one (old, old) drawing of mine that's been rejected before was Isis... I was told if I put a castle in the background to make her seem more like the Human Ice Queen she is, then it would be acceptable. I did this and wrote a description of how she was a fantasy character, had it rejected again. I've since given up on that image. While she's not the same quality of art as "The Goddess Art" of Jonathon Earl Bowser... when you boil it down (*cringe* No offense to JEB), his art is mostly just a pretty lady in a pretty dress in a pretty setting... but it's considered fantasy and I doubt it'd get rejected at Elfwood.
I've seen consistant approval of other drawings that are similar to pieces of mine, but the only difference between their characters and mine are the pointy ears... leaving me nothing more but to surmise if I slap a pair of pointy ears on a drawing I had previously submitted that was rejected, it would be approved. I've seen other things like 4x4 Trucks done in 3D or computer cases decorated in skulls get approved, but I can't get my sculpted skull-pumpkin approved because it's "not fantasy". If I do a portrait of Aragorn from Lord of the Rings and submit it (as fan art), everyone would know that the human was fantasy. If I draw one someone's human DnD character, it would get rejected. It's irritating.
I did end up victorious once when I was told "gypsies are not fantasy"... and re-submitted with various gypsies in fantasy settings in my description... but 90% of the time, my items get rejected. It's getting to the point I don't want to submit anything because I wait 2-3 months to get published and get a rejection notice.
Besides the official "must be fantasy or sci-fi art", is there some set rule to getting artwork approved? Does anyone else seem to feel a double or unclear standard when it comes to measuring the Sci-Fi or Fantasy merit of an illustration?
I understand most of it is based on moderator judgement, and I don't want to knock the mods... but it'd be nice if there could be some consistancy. If someone could help me to better discern what the general rule the mods go by in instances where there's some grey area as to whether or not a piece is sci-fi/fantasy, that would help me out oodles.
Thanks.
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June 22nd, 2006
ofthewood
 | 10:57 pm - Boundaries of fantasy...
New here. I've gone and gotten myself into maskmaking, and like most of my art, the masks tend to have a fantasy theme. (Those two in my icon are the first two I hope to put up, a demon of sorts and a somewhat abstract fairy.. thing.) I've also got a mermaid, a goblin, and a green man in the works - and fantasy as those themes are, I'm sorta iffy on whether masks themselves can constitute fantasy.
Granted, I could Borderline it and claim that they're the masks of the Unseelie ball, and it wouldn't be untrue (that was my inspiration for the fairy mask), but I'd rather know if an image of a fantasy mask could get in on its own merits. Consider this logic - the mask itself is obviously no less fantasy than a sculpture would be, and many a goblin sculpture's gotten into Elfwood without issue (rightly so), but is the theme of the mask enough by itself, considering that the intended 'content' is somewhat abstracted?
Second, what about the other elements of the picture? Some of the designs I'd hope to put up by photographing the mask on a simple backdrop (I've been using a silk skirt). The masks in my icon, by contrast, I'd post by submitting the photo of the costumed couple. Do you think either of these situations would cause problems with the mods?
Here are two (very rough) samples of the masks -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/hamadryad/temp/prom02.jpg - Demon & Fairy - I'd be Photoshopping the truck out of this image (I have all rights and permissions, models are over 18).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/hamadryad/temp/goblin1.jpg - Goblin - This mask is now painted, but this is reasonably similar to the composition I mentioned.
Thanks a lot - I'd really appreciate any advice I could get.
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May 28th, 2006
h0lyhandgrenade
 | 02:48 pm - Da Vinci Code
I've been wondering over this for a while.
Would the Da Vinci Code qualify as fantasy? I've asked a few people, and while some aren't sure, lots of them say that it's COMPLETE fantasy. Would a Da Vinci Code pic get on Elfwood?
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May 26th, 2006
darkcanticle
 | 12:18 pm - Another question
Hello! It's me again! I have lots of annoying questions, I know ;) But I hope someone can actually answer this one.
I'm just wondering if my picture has too much graphic violence to be uploaded to Elfwood (which is all good, I'll just censor it or not upload it, it doesn't bother me :) ) Just considering I'm going to be taking on a lot of dark matter in the future, I would like to know where the exact boundaries are. I know in the rules it says decapitations are ok (I think, from when I looked at them last) but entrails are where the line is drawn. What about bloody pulpy bits? >:D
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/33364606/
EDIT: Just so you guys know, this was accepted so I guess this level of gore is ok :) And it was processed real fast too! Thanks for doing that so quickly, mods!
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April 26th, 2006
kharmii
 | 04:46 pm - The Cool Cat in the Top Hat
I received a very pleasant and unexpected surprize today. My ticket -formerly locked for 29 days- was processed and my art published. Unfortunately, a drawing was rejected as 'celebrity art', and I am curious to know how to get it published. Here are some details:( Read more... ) Thank you. I do not wish to cause any trouble, just curious. ;P
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muizenstaartje
 | 03:26 pm
Maybe it’s not as complicated as I think it is, but I’m going to ask for some clarity anyway.
I know that art based on a web comic is considered fan art, unless you’re the creator of the web comic in question. In the latter case the art can go to your SF&F, if it’s fantasy of science fiction art.
However what are you supposed to do when you make a picture based on characters from a web comic that is drawn one panel at the time by different people and everyone is free to join in? I’m involved in web comic of this kind and I’m wondering how the Elfwood rules must be applied.
I think original art from the web comic should go to my SF&F gallery, but I’m not certain and if I make a picture that does not appear in the comic, should it still go to my SF&F gallery even when I never had a part in creating the character depicted in my picture? Hopefully someone can help me out with this, because I’m a bit confused.
I’ll link to the comic I mentioned to give an idea how different artists are involved. Unfortunately it’s in Dutch, so I doubt many people will enjoy the story. ;)
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April 2nd, 2006
darkcanticle
| 01:36 pm - A Question!!!!
Update: HEY!!! ANSWER MY QUESTION!?! :D :D
Hi!!!
If you do a picture based on an interpretation of someone elses fanart picture, and not whatever the fanart is based on - is it still fanart?
Say if it doesn't have the same name - or any character details, if it is a character pic. It is just a visual interpretation?
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March 26th, 2006
polenth
 | 07:47 pm - Inspired by Stick Men
What is the view on where to put art inspired by Kingdom of Loathing? To explain this, KoL is a mainly text based game, but has stick men drawn as graphics. Is it still considered to be a 'graphical video game' despite having graphics that wouldn't really be considered acceptable art under Elfwood rules (and go in Fanquarter)? Or would it be considered like a graphic-less text adventure due to the quality of the graphics (and go in the main art area)?
I'll clarify I'm not intending to submit stick men pictures to Elfwood.
The website is below with an example of the graphics at the top.
http://www2.kingdomofloathing.com/login.php
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March 23rd, 2006
midnightfury
| 10:00 pm - Question
I hope I'm not bugging anybody by asking this. I'm just dying of curiosity.
I noticed that some thumbnails of artwork have a red frame around them while others do not. Why is that?
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March 20th, 2006
h0lyhandgrenade
| 09:52 pm
I understand that fanfiction isn't allowed on Elfwood. However, if I drew an illustration to one I had written, and used a short piece of it to go as the description of the picture, would this be allowed?
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February 9th, 2006
dreamerdragoon
 | 01:09 pm - How long should I wait?
Before getting in touch with the ERB again, I mean. I reported an image for art theft/copying early last year (not before the crash or anything so it can't have been 'lost'), and still it hasn't been removed. The image in question is mostly certainly heavily copied from an existing source, and I even have a mod friend's confirmation that she wouldn't approve it knowing what I've pointed out, so it's almost certainly breaking rules. But the erb don't seem to have taken any action against it. Although this is probably beginning to sound more like a complaint, the erb really do seem to have come to a faltering crawl when it comes to removing rule-breaking pieces. They used to be really on the ball, but the past year or so it takes literal months and months for offending art to be dealt with. What's going on? Even dA manages it more speedily, and they hardly have any rules at all >.>;
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November 1st, 2005
rocketluster
 | 10:41 am
Okay, I applied, did the test and was given a ticket number. Do I wait until I hear from the mods to upload pictures? I'm still confused about the procedures. When they contact me, do they assign me a password?
Please be gentle... I'm still new to online arting. thanx.
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September 24th, 2005
angeldust10
| 07:44 pm - a little question on photomanipulation
Hi!
I've been going through the rules, but I didn't find anywhere stated clearly whether photomanipulation is allowed on elfwood or not. By photomaipulation I understand using photos (your own or others', but with permission) to create a piece of art (mixing them, editing them, painting over them, etc). Here's an example of that: my work - http://www.deviantart.com/view/22692124/, from the original images: background - http://www.deviantart.com/view/14759038/ and model - http://www.deviantart.com/view/18452097/
I would give proper credit to the authors of the stock photos, of course. I just wanna ask before I try to upload anything and is rejected, it would be a waste of time both for the moderators and for me. :) Thanks a lot!
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