The ShanMonster ([info]shanmonster) wrote in [info]bellydancing,
@ 2003-12-04 17:34:00
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Mayas
[info]metasilk was asking me about Mayas, so I thought I'd share my take on them here!

They're not necessarily more difficult. Some people find them easier than upright figure 8s from the other direction. The reasons most people find them trickier are:

1. They use the wrong muscles. Most beginners use their calves to achieve the pelvic tilt of the Maya. The move should instead originate in the inner thighs. A properly-done Maya can be done with the heels firmly on the floor.
2. They try too hard. The move is very subtle, and doesn't require an enormous tip through the pelvis to get an appreciable movement.

I start my students off by having them lie down on their backs, then pull a hip up straight toward their armpit, then push it over to the side, relaxing, then repeating on the opposite side. Effectively, you're doing Mayas on the floor in such a way that it's impossible to use the calf muscles. You have no choice but to use the correct muscles. However, you also look like a wriggling fish on the ground. Heh.... Then I have the students stand up and try the same thing, focusing on using the correct muscles. I find they catch on much faster when I start them off on the floor than when they try it standing up from the get-go.

I also get my students to use the planks in the hardwood floor as a bit of a guideline. They stand so the planks run in the same direction as their hips, and I get them to do the movement so their hips continue following the floorboards, and don't twist from front to back.




Addendum:

Here's another exercise that may help.

Stand up and lean back, bracing yourself against a wall or counter, so you're standing on just your heels. Try the maya in this position, and you'll see you don't need to use your calf muscles at all.

Remember this sensation, and try it standing upright.

I also thought of a third reason Mayas are hard for so many people. If you straighten your knees, you just can't do a maya right. It becomes very jerky and rough. If you have a soft bend in your knee, the movement becomes much more fluid. By changing the degree of bend in your knee, you can change the size of your mayas.


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Thanks
[info]niteangel
2003-12-04 02:04 pm UTC (link)
I've been dancing for a year and a half now, and I hate mayas! Simply because I can't do them. Your explanation will help a lot, I think.

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Re: Thanks
[info]shanmonster
2003-12-04 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I hope they do help! Good luck!

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[info]moth2theflame
2003-12-04 02:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for posting this! I have trouble with mayas too. I'll try your suggestions.

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[info]shanmonster
2003-12-04 06:50 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome!

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[info]evil_spice
2003-12-04 02:34 pm UTC (link)
That sounds like a very good way to learn mayas.

Do you teach them flat footed or with heels raised after this? I've heard lots of different dancers give different reasons for doing either, but my personal feeling is once you have the flat footed version it's easier to go to a raised heel maya than the other way round.

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[info]shanmonster
2003-12-04 02:34 pm UTC (link)
I don't let them do raised heel mayas until I know they can do them flatfooted.

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Hrm....
[info]tribaldancer
2003-12-04 04:08 pm UTC (link)
I am not sure how the floor exercise insures they use their thigh muscles, if that is how you insist they generate them. For me, doing that on the floor engages my obliques, not my inner thighs.
When I teach my students, I teach from the knees first. Heels stay down, knees deeply bent, alternately straightening their knees to lift the hip up, and then a hip slide to push them ou (hip slides use a variety of muscles, so I just let them figure out on their own how to generate it--they have never had a problem), then switch to the other side.

As we get more advanced, we start to engage the obliques, so that, say, I could stand on one foot and still do a maya. I can even do small mayas sitting in my chair right now, and my thighs are not at all involved.

That's not to say they can't be generated that way, but I don't understand how the floor exercise isolates *inner thighs*?

would love to know another way to do it! I try to give my students as many ways of doing moves as possible--one clicks with some, another clicks with someone else, etc...

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Re: Hrm....
[info]shanmonster
2003-12-04 06:40 pm UTC (link)
The primary reason I use the floor exercise is to show the movement doesn't originate in the calves, that's all. I feel the thighs working in the floor exercise only if I really concentrate on using those specific muscles.

I haven't tried teaching it from the knees. I'll have to give it a shot and see how it works!

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[info]nzgoddess
2003-12-07 01:06 am UTC (link)
Its little tips like this that makes this community so great. Thanks for sharing :-)

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[info]shanmonster
2003-12-07 09:32 am UTC (link)
You're welcome!

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[info]stellamaris
2003-12-11 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Sooo....I tried your little floor exercise...and well..

OHMYGODICANDOAMAYA!@#%!

*runs around in circles*

Weee! Thank you!@@

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[info]shanmonster
2003-12-13 07:43 am UTC (link)
Of course you can!

Congratulations!

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maya teaching technique
[info]esclava
2004-09-22 01:33 am UTC (link)
I know this is an old post, but I was goofing around in the archive and found it - and thanks so much for the tip! What a good idea! I'm going to have to sweep the floor first :P our studio always has a filthy floor...but this sounds like a great idea. I tell my girls to practice their mayas and sways (what we call going upward with the same vertical 8 movement) right up against a wall, but there are no free walls in this studio (surrounded by ballet bars and old school chairs that NOOOO ONE USES!!!), so I think this may be a sollution!

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