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Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008
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| Posted by: | catwho. |
| Time: | 11:52 pm. |
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User cdefg1-9 has been banned from the community and reported to livejournal for abuse.
Really, guys. Animated cartoon buttsex doesn't scare me. Now Sarah Palin, that bitch scares me.
Edit: Requested an IP level perma ban from Livejournal. I think that the situation justifies the request.
Bad troll! No eljay for you!
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| Subject: | LOL WELCUM 2 ANTIYAOI WE CAN HAS MODS? NO WE CANTS! |
| Posted by: | shinigaminc17. |
| Time: | 9:23 pm. |
| Mood: |  excited. | | Music: | REAL GANGSTA ASS NIGGAS. |
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( THESE MODS WE HAVE ARE AWESOME AREN'T THEY, HOLY FUCK THE MODS, WOW I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT OUR MODS YOU GUYS, MODS MODS MODS )
I mean seriously you guys can we just go ahead and delete the entries already or actually better yet lets just ban the user and keep the entries intact but under an lj-cut. You know I could do this in five minutes or less. Probably less, and I would go so far as to say that Jeff would be straight ballin' enough to help.
It's funny, I get it, oh how haha very silly of us to spam the antiyaoi comm with anal rape! We get it, though I hesitate to say that you get it, oh adorable posters. Most of us here like Yaoi, we hate fandom or in some capacity hate the stigma and stereotype of yaoi etc etc whatever.
My God, what a painfully bland trolling adventure. :[ I'm so disappointed.
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Monday, September 1st, 2008
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| Subject: | You do know this right? |
| Posted by: | kittycatneko3. |
| Time: | 7:18 pm. |
| Mood: | cheerful. |
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Its not because of fanpairings in general that are the main cause of widespread yaoi fans.
There are yaoi shows out there...lots of em O.o .So dont blame the fans.Blame the creators that made it in the first place.
Here are a list of some of these yaoi anime:
Junjou Romantica,Sukisho,Gravitation,Loveless,Kyou Kara Maoh,Okane ga nai,Kirepapa,Papa to kiss in the Dark,Yami no matsuei,Uta Kata,Earthian and many more...
Besides that.Yes i can understand its uncomfortable for straight men out there to put up with seeing yaoi everywhere.They should try categorizing it more.Maybe there will be less complaints.Like make a yaoi section or something.
On the subject of cannon pairings.There are cannon yaoi pairings in non yaoi anime.Such as Peacemaker Kurogane,Get Backers,Ouran Host Club,Weiss Kreuz and Saint Seiya.
But you have to admit.This site is kind of double standards.We have had to put up with mens perverted ways for years!.So let us have our fun as you have yours.Lets all agree to disagree and watch our yaoi and yuri in peace.That sound good? ^-^
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Wednesday, August 20th, 2008
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Wednesday, August 13th, 2008
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| Subject: | In Defense of Yaoi |
| Posted by: | evilninjapanda. |
| Time: | 1:39 pm. |
| Mood: |  sleepy. |
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Alright well. I recognize that this IS obviously anti-yaoi community and there's really not much reason I should be here since I am obviously... a yaoi fan. I saw the rule about reading the previous forty posts before defending yaoi... so, I cheated a little and only read 23 of them. My apologies if I have missed anything. I merely wanted to hear the opinions of some smarter anti-yaoi people ;]
So, I'm sure we all know what yaoi is. However, there are a variation of definitions of it. I mean, in Japan, yaoi has a different defintion than the popular one. The popular one appears to be basically... the pairing of two male characters in another anime. However, yaoi fans who are slightly more intelligent than the rabid twelve-year-old ones use the definition for any male couples, and not neccessarily in a smutty way. There's also 'boy Love' and 'shonen-ai', both which are used to describe 'gentler' yaoi with less smut.
I completely agree with everybody who says that some fangirls just take it a bit too far what with their pairings and etc. However, sometimes, you cannot blame them. Let's take Naruto for instance. As we all know, Sasuke and Naruto are a VERY popular pairing. People also don't think that they should be paired together because Sasuke often becomes the uke and we all know Sasuke is NOT uke material despite his troubled past and etc. However, there is.. blatant fanservice. I myself have not watched/read the whole series but I may know enough of it to make some sort of statement. Near the beginning, I believe there was an accidental kiss. It can be read as either humor or fanservice. Guess which ones the fangirls decide to take? As much as you unconsciously take it to be simple humor, they simply take it to be sign of homosexuality. Also, I believe that the mangaka of Naruto himself has drawn a doujin of Naruto and Sasuke. Now, I am not COMPLETELY sure on this but the person who I heard it from isn't unreliable. In Prince of Tennis, the end shot with Kikumaru's crotch in Eiji's face. Um... fanservice? Also, what do you EXPECT when you have them being called 'the Golden Pair'. Now I agree that some fics take it a bit far with them fornicating when they're still in junior high. However, there can be really sweet fics of them when they're grown up or just them having innocent kisses, etc. Vampire Knight, Shiki and Ichijou pairing. Shiki drinks Ichijou's blood. Probably fanservice.
Also, yaoi is also often used to describe a whole genre of male couples, including original stories. Not just fan-made things from other series'. Yaoi is supposed to mean that there's no plot, etc. However, what does one call things like... Crimson Spell by Ayano Yamane? Given, there is a lot of smut in it (practically every chapter but it does make things interesting) but there is equally as much plot. And also... guess what? Both the main characters look like MALES. I know! There's no 'chicks with dicks', surprisingly. Yamane's works are beautiful in that manner. And what about Nitta Youka with Winter Cicada? Heartwrenching.
Then you have Haruka Minami who... yes, writes the very typical yaoi with lots of sex and effeminate ukes. I don't deny that her drawings are still beautiful and she wrote Saihate no Kimi e which was surprisingly good for her.
So, yes, there IS indeed manga with homosexual pairings AND plot. Many fanworks also contain similar things, although you definitely have to sift through masses of shit to get to it. I totally understand that Cloud Strife is completely straight. Until somebody writes a beautiful fanfiction of how he, very slowly, falls in love with Vincent. I don't particularly ship this pairing but after that fanfiction (which I haven't found again...), I am thoroughly convinced that it is possible for Cloud to be gay. Oh, an there's also a lot more angst if you write yaoi. I mean, think of all the extra homosexual angst you get by them wondering why they're gay, facing their famillies, etc.
That, concludes my rant because it is indeed very late and I must finish my costume for an anime convention soon.
So, comment away and give me your opinions on yaoi now.
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| Posted by: | openexit. |
| Time: | 5:26 pm. |
| Mood: |  nauseated. | | Music: | Ms. Fat Booty- Mos Def. |
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For the most part, I ignore yaoi. I severely dislike it and it really freaks me out. And so as not to start a flame war thing I keep my contempt pretty under the table. But this weekend while browsing through Deviant art I came across probably one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen.
Transformers slash.
Now, I am not really into Transformers currently. But I can remember waking up early on Saturday mornings as a kid to watch that show. It's become a fond childhood memory and I really loved everything about it back then. So it's natural that I'm pretty protective of the show because it made my childhood a little more enjoyable. Stumbling across that digital monstrosity made me really throw a big WTF YOU CRAZY LOON fit. First of all it was like defecating on my childhood nostalgia, ruining all those lovely memories by drawing two robotic figures furiously making out. Second of all, they're freakin' robots people! They don't HAVE a gender, they don't need them! Plus, they were Decepticons, Decepticons don't have feelings, much less sexual ones! D: Thirdly people were commenting on how "hawt" the picture was. What kind of person are you to be turned on by robots?! I mean that's just sick.
I don't get it at all.
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Monday, August 11th, 2008
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| Subject: | The facts are scaring. |
| Posted by: | ameban. |
| Time: | 9:36 pm. |
| Mood: |  apathetic. | | Music: | enya. |
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My frist post in quite a while....
Is anybody familarized with the "Encyclopedia dramatica"? Apparentely it could be closed soon, so they're asking for donations. Anyway, this encyclopiedia is another of those "Wikishpedias" that blosson around everywhere. Its articles can be both, amusing and insolent.
Well, the fact is being myself a Transfan, I've looked for the Transformers entry in this website, and this is what I've found....
At first it's another parody article, just another one as other many in the net. HOWEVER I've found mostly of the parodies on this entry are focused on how the fandom works. Just look at the first description is made about TF: "The Transformers are a bunch of robots that have become the victims of bad fan fiction, Mary Sue and slash fictions over the past 24 years."
But it isn't only that. In the entry there is a bunch of Transfans who actually happen to be quite popular in the fandom. It surprised me all right.
I'm not going to discuss if it's against people or not, but the fact is a website like that has a full article about how slash-yaoi works in a fandom. I don't know if being bemused or amused about that.
---But it isn't only that.
I didn' t know till I read on this website, but apparentely there is a </a></b></a>![[info]](http://p-stat.livejournal.com/img/community.gif) hitlerslash comunity.
I never thought such place could be exist. -____-
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Wednesday, August 6th, 2008
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| Subject: | Probably been mentioned before, but... |
| Posted by: | norikosama. |
| Time: | 3:00 am. |
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Yes. Apparently, I have met a rabid fangirl who can still spell legibly but still be utterly illogical.
No websites mentioned (unless you REALLY want to know), but these are the characters: a prince, his effeminate assistant who has a crossdressing fetish, and a sheltered loli Empress. If you do know what I'm talking about, beware. I'm out to destroy a popular fansub/blogging site...sort of.
( I know everyone is entitled to an opinion, but... )
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| Subject: | It's het, fandom. Deal with it. |
| Posted by: | netbug009. |
| Time: | 1:16 pm. |
| Mood: |  Bad Fandom! No yaoi 4 u.. |
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So, the WALL-E fandom has been discussing this, and some latched onto it.
.......Do I really have to say anymore?
Yes, yes I do.
Why is it bad in fandom these days for something to just be het? It's so incredibly hypocritical, seeing how a lot of times yaoi fandom calls US closed minded and act like they're the minority.
1. The names are clearly male and female.
2. The books clearly refer to them as he and she.
3. "He's a guy and she's a girl and he just falls completely in love with her." = quote from Andrew Stanton himself, and if you don't believe him, you've got a problem.
I know the fandom knows this stuff, and I'm really sick of seeing fandoms play dumb to try and get their slash in. Is somebody being strait really that bad?
Seriously guys, can we just leave this one thing alone? This one pairing I care about deeply? This one movie I love from the bottom of my heart like I've never loved a movie before? I guess not.
And now, to help in the hope that this dies off without a rush of fan fiction, I'm gonna let it go and go write some WALLEVE fluff or something.
tl;dr = Attempt at twisting WALL-E canon for yaoi = FAIL.
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| Subject: | Obscurity is teh safety net. Or is it? |
| Posted by: | teigeki_calesa. |
| Time: | 12:20 pm. |
| Mood: |  contemplative. |
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This is one thing that has been lingering on my mind as I was pondering over my participation in a certain fandom for now for this certain Canadian cartoon.
According to the info on this show on its broadcaster's(Teletoon) site, the target audience is supposed to be kids aged 9-12, but apparently, its most active fans on the net are teenaged and 20something girls, myself included. So I get a whole lot of "OMG he's so kyoooot" and other kinds of (sometimes) incoherent fangirl babbling, but something's just missing. Oh yes, the "they are so boning each other behind the trees and those who disagree is a homophobe" we all know. In fact, it's sorely lacking in that. Not to say that there isn't any slash; we know it's everywhere, even, here. BUT, any amount of slashy fanwork/talk about it is surprisingly and hugely outnumbered by het, and *gasp!* gen fics. It doesn't seem right; five cute guys and two girls? The boys will be slashed to death and the girls will be bashed to no end/conveniently erased! But nooooo. In the Pit alone, you have to do a thorough search just to get something related to slash just as you would need to do a thorough search in say, the Naruto and FMA, sections just to get something that isn't related to slash. DevArt? Found only one, and it isn't even very provocative. The rest are het and gen. HET and GEN. And weirdest of all, no intolerably obnoxious and/or condescending fanbrats to ruin my day, at least those whom I've encountered so far. It just can't be obscurity; slashers will do in almost anything and everything in sight, and I'd expect that this being a Greek mythos based show, the "Ancient Greeks are the first yaoi fans of history" thing will be used as an excuse. Even the canon pairings aren't supposed to stop them, right? This isn't right, there SHOULD be slash! There should be obnoxious fangirls and arrogant shenanigans ruining my day!....not.
The only other reasons I can think of are:
--the potential slashers are turned off by the story, that may not be appealing to their tastes *teens chosen to save the world from evil god! Boring! Crap!* This may also been the case for why there hasn't been anyone in there that I've encountered to have obnoxious behavior.
--most slashers are from the anime/manga based fandom *coughJapanophiliacough* that they won't dare touch this show no matter how cute the guys are. But then again, there's HP and LOTR.
--the five main boys are *gasp again!* deemed non-slashable, even the one guy that um, acts queer. The said guy's mainly the one involved in the(teensy bit of)slash as expected; but it may also be that the said guy is too self-absorbed to make the vandalization worth it.
But I don't think that matters now, as this show recently ended its run in Canada, rendering its fandom inactive--in boards at least, but not in fanworks. Then again, there has been word of a US airing being pushed, which brings me back to my first question; which may be a good thing for the show's popularity but not for its fandom; since a lot of American yaoi/slash fans have a reputation for being the frontrunner in slash fanwork and obnoxious behavior, the last being my problem with the American anime fandom in general.
(For the last one, I hope no American takes offense. Just an honest observation.)
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Wednesday, July 9th, 2008
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| Subject: | Hi everybody new to the community |
| Posted by: | darkangelk. |
| Time: | 6:22 pm. |
| Mood: | angry. | | Music: | Goldfrapp - Caravan Girl. |
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Hi, i have listen of this community in another one where a girl was talking about how much dislikes Yaoi/Shounen-Ai in Saint Seiya. And i have discover this community, so that's why i have joined.
Anyone here dislikes Saint Seiya Yaoi?
I think it's disgusting and it's senseless, it's a shounen which friendship, courage, hope, faith are the main subjects but girlyfans just only see yaoiness in that, i just say to them that Stop making yaoi things who are not by a mile yaoi, like Saint Seiya.
What i hate the most is what they made to the Camus/Milo paring, they make Camus completely as a woman! they steal his real personality from Anime/Manga version, the personality Kurumada has given him, i can't really stand that, and what's going on with the red nails? i think it's stupid and absolutely nonsense
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| Subject: | A post that isn't quite a rant |
| Posted by: | fusakugyoku. |
| Time: | 9:35 pm. |
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For once, a post that isn't quite a rant.
So, in a goof-off thread on a forum I frequent, someone posted a sickeningly cute picture of two well-known forum male members chibified with disgustingly cute expressions and gigantic sparkly eyes. We all had a good laugh at it, but one poster wrote the following in objection:
"Just cut the two out from the one pic and you have two cute (and separate) drawings. I mean, come on! ...yaoi isn't allowed here (and neither should it be...yeccchhhhh!)."
To which someone else responded:
"Seriously? XD There's nothing "yaoi" about this picture. They aren't even looking at each other, much less making romantic advances. Can two males not even be in the same picture anymore without someone saying it's suggestive? XD"
To which someone else responded:
...Yep, I think the fangirls just lost a point XD
(Other responses: yaoi orgy, yuri, and mass yaoi orgy.)
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I get an Artists' Alley table every year. I just got back from running a table with one of my long-time friends who's a HUGE yaoi and Prince of Tennis fangirl, and this year, she brought much yaoi warez (including some pretty hardcore stuff) to sell. Well, we're pretty mutually collaborative when it comes to selling with each other, and it's pretty nice-- we promote each other's works a lot. However, since yaoi-love is not mutual for us, this involved me pretending to be a yaoi fangirl.
It wasn't hard (because anyone can squee and fawn and OMGOTPNEKKIDGUYSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOT and ohhhhh she's fangirled to me more than anything I've ever wanted to know about her yaoi fandoms) but holy crap, I think I've permanently convinced myself to never become a yaoi fangirl. Don't get me wrong, I love my friend to death, but I feel soooooo dirty squeeing like a moron about stuff I find gross to people I don't know. Personally, I am capable of being a fangirl too, but yaoi fangirls are so extreme. Now my throat and head hurt =(
I shall try my best to hate the sin and love the sinner. Not that I'm saying yaoi love is necessarily sinful, but it IS hella annoying.
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| Posted by: | jayfortuna. |
| Time: | 8:22 pm. |
| Mood: |  confused. |
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Hi guys. I'm here once again to ask a stupid question. Here it comes:
In your ideal world, how would you like slash/yaoi to be handled?
Assuming that it wouldn't disappear, neither would some annoying things which come with it (like fangirls).
I found myself being too angry with some... things associated with slash, but a small voice in my head kept asking "Well, is there really anything that can be done?" I wonder...
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| Subject: | When a normally tolerable fandom becomes the opposite. |
| Posted by: | norikosama. |
| Time: | 5:05 pm. |
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For those who watch Code Geass (and if not...well you could still get something out of this), you are well aware there is a second season in Japan dubbed "R2" with Suzaku's burning hatred of Lelouch. Though I primarily watch the community of said show for updates on information, fanart, or discussion, I can't help but notice some rater illogical and insensible relevations some members have chosen to make.
( for slightly out-of-it content. )
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| Subject: | Holy Mother of Edison! |
| Posted by: | skinnyslim22. |
| Time: | 7:21 pm. |
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What were you (fangirls) thinking? You could've broken my brain!
Oh, no, wait. You did. And I don't care that this is another 'and then they came for me' rant. Better here than there.
Seriously, what is up with you and 'humanized' fanart of anthro-type shows and movies? (Stupidly obvious question is stupidly obvious.) I ran across it in Cars, I've ran across it in Sonic the Hedgehog...and then, on my search for Brave Little Toaster fanart (since fanfic is pretty much nonexistent), guess what I find?
I really shouldn't be surprised. The characters in the movie are incredibly likeable. I'll admit to being very attached and able to relate to the two in my icon and liking their relationship in the film (oddly enough, 1setence claim or not, I'm more interested in the sort of squabbling sibling/friendly rival dynamic they seem to have, rather than OMG!romance.) I can honestly see where the pairing madness comes from.
And...I can...um, kind of see where your logic comes from as well. By all means, let's pair appliances together, but they're not hot as appliances at all! Let's make them into human, pretty-boy versions of themselves! We'll even explain who's who in the fanart description! Then we can have them snogging! There shall be much squeeing (I privately think of this as the Mating Cry of the Fangirl) and faving of art. And...you make me sick.
Maybe this is the Typical Dumb Male in me, but I can't fully understand the reason this is so popular, never mind why I'm so riled up about it. I probably never will. Maybe a sociology class would help. As of now, the fact is...there's just not enough fact.
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| Subject: | WHAT. THE. HECK. FANDOM. |
| Posted by: | netbug009. |
| Time: | 9:25 pm. |
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On a discussion about proof for the One Piece yaoi pairing of Zolo and Sanji:
"You know Oda´s intending to make them KISS later on? Not an actual fact, but bloody obvious by now.
He keeps making them "almost" kiss, each time their faces getting a bit closer, one day they´re gonna kiss :3 I hope I´ll be able to see it soon :3"
I think a part of me died when I read that. I almost replied, but I' not sure what I would have said. I was just too dumbfounded.
Seriously fandom, what is your damage?
As usual, I'm here to rant about yaoi fandom, not gossip about people, so don't ask me for a link to the original post. However, I had to get this out. Either I say it here or I end up blowing up at the person.
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Saturday, April 19th, 2008
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| Subject: | TMNT vs Fangirls... |
| Posted by: | yautja_theide. |
| Time: | 3:15 pm. |
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I have been a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan since I was a little kid, I mean really little too-- of course, most people know the TMNT from the original 80s cartoon rather than the darker, angrier and more violent comics published by Mirage, which was THE ORIGINAL incarnation of the TMNT where they all wore red bandanas. Everyone knows the history of the TMNT, from the toons, the music, the movies... Everything.
For a while in the late nineties to the earlier part of the millenium, the Turtles were out of the picture for a while until 2003 when the new cartoon came out and last but not least-- the new TMNT movie, which I am saddened to say, didn't enjoy like the original movie.
However, I am not here to talk about the origins of the Turtles but a fanbase which has sadly made me distant from the TMNT franchise. Namely, the TMNT Fangirls. Yes, there are fangirls for TMNT-- infact, there are fangirls for just about everything. We all know this. So I've been browsing around DA to see some dark, angry and violent TMNT art in spirit of the Mirage comics... yet all I see are humanized versions of the Turtles who are busy kissing each other up and fondling one another, or the turtles just being flat out gay and trying to have turtle sex.
....What?
The TMNT are brothers!! Why in God's good green Earth would they want to have sex with each other?! Why would they even so much as think of such things? My God...
It just bothers me on extremes the fangirls take to show that they are into Yaoi... even promoting homosexual incest. I normally don't say anything to the fangirls since they wouldn't listen and would bitch to me but I might as well say it here..
Please... stop humanizing the turtles to fit your fantasies.. and stop making them gay because they are brothers and they are not gay!
Sorry about that... Just wanted to rant.
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Thursday, March 27th, 2008
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| Subject: | Yaoi Fangirls, how far is too far? |
| Posted by: | angrypufferfish. |
| Time: | 12:24 am. |
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Hey everybody! I haven't posted on here for awhile but I figure now is a better time than never hey? XD As most of you might already know I have several people in my life that are over-the-top Yaoi fanatics. I have simply tolerated it since my last posting but one thing that has been in my thoughts lately is their lack of concern for public censorship. So here are my questions to you: Here are some questions I'd like to ask you all. Let us see how many answers we can get!: What do you think is the difference between two homosexual people showing affection in public and blunt Yaoi Fangirlism? If a parent or sibling shelters a small child from Yaoi does that make them ignorant or homophobic? Do you think Yaoi fans have a right to be 'loud' in public? Also, if you agree with the above case do you also think they have a right to 'educate' younger children as they please? Also do you think it is unfair to ask art sites such as Devianart or Fanart Central to filter their images so that only 'mature' audiences can view Yaoi or Yuri material? And lastly, where do you draw the line between a simple Yaoi Fan and an over-obssesed fangirl? Thanks for your time!
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Saturday, March 22nd, 2008
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